Baked Alaska / Tim Treadstone / Tim Gionet / Anthime Joseph Gionet - White rapper, alt-right "activist", ex-Buzzfeed contributor; got arrested at the March for Trump, and a federal snitch

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Glowie said:
Is previous probation taken into account on top this federal crime? Or do these count as separate crimes?
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The answer is “kinda”. The Probation is State, not Fed, so if the State wants to charge Baked with Probation Violation then it’s on them to do so. With that said, the Feds DO take all prior convictions into account at sentencing. It’s a complicated process where points are given for prior convictions and points are subtracted for “mitigating factors” like acceptance of guilt. This might not come into play in Baked’s case, though, because he’s made a deal with the Feds to plea down to a misdemeanor and that deal might include a “sentence recommendation” from the Prosecutor’s Office. The Judge DOESN’T have to sentence Baked according to the Fed Prosecutor’s recommendation, BUT Fed Judges usually go along with any deals made.

So it’s 6 to 5 and pick ‘em.
 
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Puck said:
Paul town deserves his own thread imo
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Is he even remotely a lolcow? Guy is too smart and self-aware to have one despite being a literal schizophrenic. Why the fuck did Nick associate himself with subhumans like Baked anyway? He surrounded himself with competent Internet intellectuals like Joel Davis and Town, only to ditch the former because his views are too cerebral for him. I'm actually surprised Town hasn't jumped ship yet
 
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OrsonZedd said:
Commit treason, plead to a misdemeanor, what a fucking mockery.
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Now here's where you're wrong, it is not actually possible to commit treason against the U.S. government:

The United States was founded by a group of men (human males), and at the time, in an act of violent rebellion.

The Declaration of Independence was written by a group of men.

The Constitution was written by a group of men (this implies that it can also be abolished by a group of men).

There is no consistent, permanent principle, that exists between incarnations of the staff of the U.S. government, meaning anyone employed at state or federal level, in a judicial, executive, or legislative capacity.

If everyone from the U.S. government were immediately fired at this very moment, there would be no U.S. government.

The U.S. government and the U.S. are a democracy, and so there is "no government," no centralized principle or idea that unites this regime beyond the people who inhabit this country at the current moment.

Debates over immigration make this even fuzzier; as immigrants have much political clout, despite not being "citizens." This is par for the course in a democracy, which, when paired with postmodernism, essentially imply that everyone's truth is valid. If everyone's truth is valid, this is basically incompatible with the notion of governance, which implies that there is some objective truth that is super-valid over other, lesser truths.

If 51% of people engaged in rebellion against the U.S. government, it would not actually be rebellion, but a peaceful transition to a different form of government; this is because the U.S. government does not exist apart from the people who inhabit the U.S., and is in fact identical to its inhabitants. In other words, it would simply be people voting with their actions.

The government consists of a group of employees who can be fired from their job, and the "thing" that hires and fires them also consists of other employees, and this "thing" is inherently fractured, ununified, it consists of a series of arbitrary human principles, created by a group of men, which are voluntarily held as sacrosanct.

The core theme of the Constitution, DoI, and the Amendments is one of liberty and freedom, which ironically holds the seeds of its own self-destruction, as freedom as an absolute principle, is self-negating. Absolute freedom cannot exist (because freedom implies freedom from everything), freedom is relativity (but not as an absolute principle... which cannot exist), therefore when freedom poses as an absolute principle, it becomes another source of tyranny. (This is actually visible today in the modern world in many different forms.)

In summary:

The U.S. government was founded by a group of human males in an illegal act of rebellion, and they considered this act of rebellion to be a moral duty or imperative. These men inlaid this principle of responsibility of rebellion in the current form of government. Their notion of government was that human beings could choose how to live, collectively, however they see fit, as befits their happiness and desire. The notion that this kind of government could ever bar anyone from doing anything, is actually contradictory.

Actually if you think about it, we, as human beings, can live exactly as we want to, collectively, and there is no visible higher-power that prevents us from doing so. This means that any experience of suffering on this Earth is actually kind of voluntary, and not necessarily to be taken for granted.

There is no consistent principle through and between different incarnations of the government, as the government is a democracy, and simply consists of the people who hire and fire the different public servants, and suggest new laws or abolish old ones.

The notion that the Constitution can be absolute, while the people at the same time being free, is a contradiction. If we are truly free, we can choose not to follow the Constitution. If we are not truly free and the Constitution is absolute, it must be rewritten and made better... which is just a variation of the former statement.

Philosophically, the U.S. government doesn't even exist! There is no core, eternal, permanent, unified, and visible principle that exists across its incarnations, and its genesis cannot even be discerned! Emptiness, emptiness, oṃ, oṃ, oṃ. May all beings be at peace and ease.

Anyways, please let me know what you think. If it is impossible to discern an actual U.S. government, then I think this has practical implications which are not pretty. A true government would have to be absolute, or not at all (another form of absoluteness). A true government, IMO, is a non-human monarchy, i.e. a world that is governed by God (the Absolute Principle).
 
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In case anyone was curious, Baked has the same Judge Sullivan that General Flynn had. Judge Sullivan refused to grant the Justice Department’s request to drop the Flynn prosecution, and attempted to appoint a former judge to argue the government's case when he believed the government wasn't serious enough about prosecuting Flynn. It all ended in a pardon.

So out of all the judges in the world, Baked got the worst possible one. If Judge Sullivan feels the deal is too light, hes going to say it and reject the deal (which is rare). And for better or worse, he hates radical Trump people.
 
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In case anyone was curious, Baked has the same Judge Sullivan that General Flynn had. Judge Sullivan refused to grant the Justice Department’s request to drop the Flynn prosecution, and attempted to appoint a former judge to argue the government's case when he believed the government wasn't serious enough about prosecuting Flynn. It all ended in a pardon.

So out of all the judges in the world, Baked got the worst possible one. If Judge Sullivan feels the deal is too light, hes going to say it and reject the deal (which is rare). And for better or worse, he hates radical Trump people.
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Alternatively Sullivan glows and that's why he went full retard trying to destroy Flynn. In which case Baked may well get the minimum. 🤷‍♂️
 
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PickwickPub said:
And for better or worse, he hates radical Trump people.
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Baked "Political Prisoner" Alaska
Baked "America's Most Wanted Paytriot" Alaska
Baked "World's Most Notorious Dissident" Alaska

This is the price you'll pay in Joe Biden's America© (JOBA) for being a PAYTRIOT.

Sad! Many such cases! You hate to see it!
 

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The hearing for the pepper spray was already funny so this should be really good.
 
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Someone suggested that this could all be a charade. As far as fed conspiracies go, telling Baked to go to the Capitol and just film everything is a strong one. Tons of people were identified and arrested because of his footage. He's going to get off without jail time. There's no warrant or custody issues with the footage because he livestreamed it. Nobody can have strong suspicions about Baked's intentions because 1) he livestreams all the time, and 2) he's a fucking moron. It also doesn't require any effort on the Fed or Baked's part. "Hey buddy, when you go to the Capitol make sure you film as much as you can." "Sure! LETS GO!!!"
 
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Abu Muslim said:
Are those who take plea deals based?

The mace spraying "patriot" making a deal with the government, probably throwing under the bus every person he knows the name of...

BASED!

Edit: Didn't Nick say he would have him killed depending on the deal?
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Honestly, I’d imagine the based thing to do in the future would be to interrogate/torture anyone accused of being a fed and turn the legal proceedings into a Rick and Morty bit.

As for Nick, assume it’s like 1/6 itself: all talk before shit actually pops off.
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Nice to see the Scott Pilgrim guy find something new.

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Someone suggested that this could all be a charade. As far as fed conspiracies go, telling Baked to go to the Capitol and just film everything is a strong one. Tons of people were identified and arrested because of his footage. He's going to get off without jail time. There's no warrant or custody issues with the footage because he livestreamed it. Nobody can have strong suspicions about Baked's intentions because 1) he livestreams all the time, and 2) he's a fucking moron. It also doesn't require any effort on the Fed or Baked's part. "Hey buddy, when you go to the Capitol make sure you film as much as you can." "Sure! LETS GO!!!"
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I mean, everyone on the right and in the Thunderdome believes that 1/6 was all some kind of honeypot, so your theory isn’t that unfounded.
 
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