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The disaster lesbian who is known in the west for flirting with her manager is next up for 3D.
General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.
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Two very cursed birds. Oh no.
Tatsunoko
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I think it's similar to Luna's situation where they just have a very unique voice. And maybe play it up a tiny bit for the character. Miko, like Luna, talks like that regardless of if she's playing a character or not.
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Deluxe
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This is insane. This is like waking up and reading that all the hololive talent live in a dormitory where they are abused by staff and recieve 1% of their earnings.
Elite Miko being the #1 HH fan was unexpected but welcome
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She really needs a car. Or something for transport that's managable for her to own.
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She needs to hear his best theme.This is insane. This is like waking up and reading that all the hololive talent live in a dormitory where they are abused by staff and recieve 1% of their earnings.
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Elite Miko being the #1 HH fan was unexpected but welcome
Imagine an Elite cover.
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This is GOOD Eurobeat-esque shit!
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Miko's really spinning gold with these WWE streams. As the game itself noted, that fight against Hulk Hogan was an instant classic.
"Vewy, vewy mucho!"
"Vewy, vewy mucho!"
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It brings me so much joy to chubbas making good uses of Vince's game.
WATAMAGE USES GAME CRASH! IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
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https://www.superpixel.com/article/73084/top-vtuber-china-only-paid-10-cents-per-20-subscription
Top Vtuber in China Only Paid 10 Cents per $20 Subscription
Since its launch in December 2020, A-SOUL has been arguably the most popular VTuber idol group in China, with 4.22 million subscribers on Bilibili and a wide range of characters; they host concerts and perform in live shows, appear in commercials, etc.
However, while the group is a massive success, the actors behind these virtual characters see only a tiny fraction of that amount.
A recent dispute between the group and one of its actors revealed some horrendous business practices, including long work hours, terrible copyright laws, and that the actors are only paid 10 cents for each of their $20 subscriptions.
On May 10th, A-SOUL, released a statement that its member Carol will go on an “indefinite hiatus” due to her "health" and "study" issues.
On the other side, things are clearly not so simple. Carol, or rather the actor behind this virtual character, began complaining about workplace bullying and an unreasonable salary on her private social media account. This quickly caused an uproar on social media in China, with tons of fans angrily demanding that A-SOUL's parent company, ByteDance, disclose the Vtuber's detailed salary and thoroughly investigate the workplace bullying accusations.
As the most popular Vtuber group in China, all five members of A-SOUL have more than 1,000 membership subscribers, generating more than $50,000 in Superchat donations every month.
A-SOUL’s month revenue compares to other Chinese Vtuber groups in November, 2021
Vtuber companies would usually share their revenue with actors by a 40-60 split or 50-50 on some rare occasions. This means actors in A-SOUL should be making around $25,000 to $30,000 a month, which was the assumption for most A-SOUL fans.
It’s not hard to imagine the rage fans felt when Carol’s actor claimed she’s only paid an abysmal base salary and a laughable revenue share. Carol’s actor is getting not 50%, not 30%, or even 10% or 1%.
A-SOUL operates on Bilibili, the largest UGC video platform in China. Bilibili takes 50% of all streamer grossing, including donations and subscriptions. A-Soul takes 99% of the rest, which means for each $20 monthly subscription, Carol’s actor is paid 10 cents or a mere 0.5%
Carol’s base salary is around $2000, and according to this calculation, her monthly revenue share was only $500-$600, far less than the speculated figure.
During her birthday live on November 2nd, Carol gained more than 12,000 new subs in a single day. That alone means more than $320,000 in grossing and $160,000 in her company’s pocket. However, this record-breaking event only added a one-time $1,600 bonus for Carol. The next month after the event, her subscriber counts dropped back to normal.
Money was just a part of the problem. Carol once had a severe injury during a stream, and her thigh got cut by a mocap device. She was still forced to finish the livestream, and A-SOUL officials denied that there was anything suspicious about the injury.
Carol took a break and was off-air for a month in May 2021. During that time, rumors of her trying to expand her career and become an idol, in reality, had been circulating. That rumor was used by A-SOUL management to verbally abuse Carol, commenting on her appearance and threatening to kick her out "and see if she can make it as a real idol" if her livestreaming revenue was too low.
In early April, Carol stated on her account that she was worried about her privacy and safety, claiming “someone is going to sabotage me very soon”. Less than two weeks later, her personal information, including pictures and videos from real life, was leaked on the internet.
Carol claims that she is already suffering from hearing loss and vocal cord damage from long working hours and that the verbal and physical abuse in the workplace made her suicidal.
As of now, a large number of fans have signed a protest letter demanding that ByteDance thoroughly investigate A-SOUL's working conditions and salaries and provide a reasonable solution. A-SOUL officials issued an urgent statement at 2 am, claiming that the news circulating about salaries and workplace bullying is false and that they will take appropriate action to sue people who spread them. The real answer to these questions will not be known; as A-SOUL says, for now, they cannot disclose the information because of privacy.
Update: Last night, A-SOUL conducted a surprise Livestream to appease angry fans at 8 pm. Carol, who had already announced that she would go on hiatus, reappeared to explain her decision to retire and clarify fans' suspicions about A-SOUL's workplace bullying. However, the stream did not go as smoothly as A-SOUL officials had expected. A large number of fans began to angrily ask the direct leader of A-SOUL to come and clarify all the things Carol complained about. After a short talk that lasted less than an hour, Carol ended her final stream in chaos. In the later stream, the other four A-SOUL Vtubers tried to continue to provide answers to fans' suspicions. Still, the fans believed that the members had all been threatened or warned, so they intended to continue to protest until things were resolved. At the moment, A-SOUL has still not released any statement or further explanation.
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Japanese Longbowman
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One would think she would use her Canadian pass to get a custom setup built for her in a collab with Linus Tech Tips specifically tailor made to her use case especially after having two PCs destroyed at this point but fucking COVER would never allow it. And I'm sure he would even fix that internet of hers behind the scenes.
Especially since he recently metioned how he was fascinated by VTubers and the tech behind it. It's a win win for both parties.
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Nice game Vince
Edit: And she force ended the match. Even in 2022 Watamage cannot be contained.
You're an idiot
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She may very well make more money by streaming more often, but what if she's content with what she gets now? Isn't it nice to see someone doing little work and still making a lot of money? I'd be over the moon if that was me. If this was a real issue then Cover wouldn't let her continue. They are the ones who would have the most reason to be upset over her schedule, but they seem to be fine with it. Didn't you start this off by saying you don't watch her? So, what has you in such a MATI mood over this?
Mumei: OMG I LOVE MASKS!
Kiara: Thank you for normalizing masks!
I could become the next great clipper with how out of context these lines are.
I cannot believe I am now a Fauna anti. Guess I need to learn some rudimentary chinese and ask the bugmen which bot farms are the best.>Cheesecake is C tier
My heart hurts...I don't think I can enjoy mother nature anymore...
Chocolate chips are good though when chewy
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Missed last off-collab stream because of it being too early in the morning for me
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If you ever feel down about yourself guys or lonely, just be happy you're not Chinese! I mean...I hope you don't think the feelings are mutual with your Oshi...right?Makes me wonder if VirtuaReal is dealing with the same shit.
10:50 - 'I do think that virtual relationships can replace real-life relationships. She makes me feel warm, and I think the emotions are mutual.'
@Deluxe man that article is wild. Like not even making a fraction of a percent from a membership is wild. You're practically bordering being free labor at that point. Yeah you're making 'some' money, but shit you practically a vchuuba slave at the end of the day. I hope things go their way and they get better cuts from the membership and stuff, but that might be optimistic.
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4/5 of Luxiem and Nina are off-collabing and I'm so happy, for both normal MY OSHIS TOGETHER reasons and Nina haters drowning in their own tears.
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For context: She said she used to like cheese cake very much but since she is vegan now and the vegan variants are not that good. Sounds reasonable for me in this case.>Cheesecake is C tier
My heart hurts...I don't think I can enjoy mother nature anymore...
Man I missed Minecraft streams for this kind of interactions
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I saw this two-view literal who on Twitter, talking about getting paid 1K to show off her butt on Twitch. Comments tell a story, that's for sure.
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100% Seiso. Sure, unless you get a fat donation.