Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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https://twitter.com/douglasernst/status/1525587157166854144

Looks like Earnst just dropped some DMs on Twitter.

 

[Absurdity]

Jon De La Derecha!

 

[Mister Dongs]

I curious why Tim and Mark (both very successful independent comic creators) would hire the Roiloup brothers to write a comic for them. That claim seems sketch enough on its face to where I think Thomas should have to provide some measure of proof.

I don't have a copy of the issues in question or was able to find a credit listing online for Roiloup's psuedonym (Ran'Sheeda Diaz). But here he is talking about writing a backup story for Lim's third installment of the MAGA-themed parody Wall-Might in a livestream with Kamen America author Mark Pellegrini. Pellegrini not only did not dispute but actively backed up Thomas' claims towards authorship. The link in the stream scrollbar to Roiloup's own IGG crowdfund for Literally #2 prominently displays a quote by Pellegrini saying as much:



Given that Mark has to be aware of this quotation Roiloup is posting everywhere yet is not only not saying anything but continues to go on his show, I consider that fairly substantive proof that Roiloup is telling the truth, at least as far as being a published guest-writer of Iconic Comics goes. As for why Tim Lim went along with it, well as far as I can tell the guy is nothing if not generous to people who have stuck by him over the years with shoutouts and cameos. Put simply, I consider the possibility that Roiloup is telling the truth on this greater than Pellegrini cooperating in lying to his and Tim Lim's fans to prop up Roiloup.

Edit: Okay here's the proof for those not willing to sign up to SWC's SubscribeStar

 

[Captain Manning]

https://twitter.com/douglasernst/status/1525587157166854144

Looks like Earnst just dropped some DMs on Twitter.

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Not gonna lie: Earnst seems incredibly civil here.

What is the casus belli for this particular shitshow? There's gotta be a backstory here.

Given that Mark has to be aware of this quotation Roiloup is posting everywhere yet not only says is not saying anything but continues to go on his show, I consider that fairly substantive proof that Roiloup is telling the truth, at least as far as being a published guest-writer of Iconic Comics goes.

Fair enough. Thank you for the information.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

What is the casus belli for this particular shitshow? There's gotta be a backstory here.

JDA just seems to go through life trying to piss people off. He did the same thing to author Larry Correia and I guess Correia's publisher (Baen). There was more at the time, but I was too lazy to cap anything else.


Edit: Oh, and a month later JDA was quoted in a Bounding into Comics article like the above never happened. Very strange. Or that Correia had called JDA's actions "pure slime." Very strange.

FenCon Convention Stands By Decision To Have Larry Correia As Guest Of Honor Despite “Caring Leftists” Throwing Temper Tantrum

Fellow novelist Jon Del Arroz reacted to FenCon’s statement saying, “It’s very nice to hear this. It is refreshing. I’ve never heard of anybody fighting back like this. This a new era. I really think that 2022 enough normal people are fed up with it and they’re not scared of the SJWs anymore.”

“They see that these guys can make a mob and throw a fit and cause maybe two, three weeks of disturbance online, but in reality the SJWs have no power,” he said.

He then addressed other convention organizers, “I gotta say to anybody who watches this who’s a convention organizer, a person who schedules guests for programming or anything like that, don’t worry. These people don’t have power. All they can do it amplify the signal of what’s going on and it makes it so normal people want to attend.”

He later noted, “[FenCon’s] going to get rewarded for having a guest like Larry, who writes books that are fun that people enjoy and the SJWs can buzz off. They don’t have any money anyway.”

Del Arroz concluded, “I’m happy about this. I love watching this. I hope that we start to turn the tide in culture even further.”

 

[Rupin]

Ok I’m a little late to the party, what this about the Roiloop bros fucking each other?

 

[Captain Manning]

Ok I’m a little late to the party, what this about the Roiloop bros fucking each other?

It's a claim that TUG and YF made yesterday on Twitter. Seemingly without providing a shred of evidence. See posts above.

YF then made some vague statement about there being proof on their SubscribeStar.

https://archive.ph/pTDFK

As I stated earlier, my inclination is to not believe it unless/until I have a credible reason to believe it. That seems the most rational course of action. TUG and YF and virulently pro-CG, and Thomas is virulently anti-CG. I think it goes without saying that they hate each other's guts.

 

[FlamingPie]

"You're going to have to subscribe to their SubscribeStar for the evidence."

This road ain't gonna end well for YF, regardless if he's telling the truth or not. Either shit or get off the fucking pot.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Sounds like a basic case of "oh they lied about me I'm gonna lie about them back" unless proof comes up otherwise. It's never a very good idea because it's not just a question of if lying about someone is good or bad, it's also lying to unrelated people who did nothing - people that placed their trust in you as a source of information. And most people don't like being deliberately lied to.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

Sounds like a basic case of "oh they lied about me I'm gonna lie about them back" unless proof comes up otherwise. It's never a very good idea because it's not just a question of if lying about someone is good or bad, it's also lying to unrelated people who did nothing - people that placed their trust in you as a source of information. And most people don't like being deliberately lied to.

I was going to say that nobody is that retarded and autistic to believe they were really in a homosexual (somehow it being gay makes it worse) twincest relationship but then I realised that actually this sphere of the internet would totally believe that and the Roloups are fucking weirdoes so it sort of makes you think for a bit.
I figure they're just copying what the Rollups do, make a bunch of claims and then hide stuff behind a paywall. I'm surprised they know the Roiloups since it seems like most people ignore them after trying to parse their schizotheories.

Dear diary, today Smug Pug is back. He has requested that I document his grand reappearance. Hail Smug Pug. He's back and drunker than ever, he's single and ready to mingle. He says he's been laying off the booze and the last time he drank was Mothers Day. Good for you Smug Pug.


His first act after being back was to efap the Sit down with Sandi with Finatra. Vikki appears in the chat and says that she hasn't watched it. We know it's a lie but we love you anyway Vikki, give your dad a call. It's been three years.

He's mad at me for making fun of his friends? I can confirm that none of this is true aside from moving from the state of Victoria. Lol thanks for doxxing my old state Smug Pug! Kind of weird to lash out at me after doing my bidding and efapping this anti-VikkiVerse propaganda. Smug Pug you are my mensch.


Smug Pug says that the poz show is going to come back but it'll probably be at a different timeslot because he's working. I hope he does stick around and make a show again, all his friends are kind of retarded and unfunny. They need him to make a new Legion of Doom server and tard wrangle them.

edit: I spoke to Smug Pug. There isn't really any beef between us it's just fun to fling shit.

 

[BlueKnight]

https://twitter.com/douglasernst/status/1525587157166854144

Looks like Earnst just dropped some DMs on Twitter.

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JDA vs the Phonies...

 

[FluffyJackal]

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Doesn't Del Arroz have enough self-awareness to realize how this quote comes across as faggy?

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

https://mobile.twitter.com/douglasernst/status/1525532800589320192

Looks like something interesting is brewing between Doug Earnst and JDA. @TheCosmicWarrior Maybe you want to get ahead of this.

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I don't really care what some faggot blue check journalist from shithole Reno has to say. Hope you're having a good weekend.

 

[Absurdity]

You sound like a spurned lover every time you get into a fight, but with AIDS. The weekend is getting better and better though thanks to your wonderful contributions, Jon! I'm sure all true Christian Cohenservatives will believe you over that no good rabble rouser Ernst. The man's got no standards, not like yours anyway!

 

[Dong-Liquor]

Not gonna lie: Earnst seems incredibly civil here.

What is the casus belli for this particular shitshow? There's gotta be a backstory here.

When I first came here to The Farms it was in relation to a falling out between Ernst and JDA, as well as Pressed-In and JDA. In response to my question, I was illuminated to the general outlook of people here that JDA approaches cow-levels. Ernst is practically a saint. He generally avoids conflict and refrains from engaging in personal attacks.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I'm surprised they know the Roiloups since it seems like most people ignore them after trying to parse their schizotheories.

The vendetta between Thomas Roiloup and TUG/Nick Rekeita/YellowFlash goes way back over a half a decade ago when the three of them were also nobodies with fledgling CG-related channels, grinding out analysis of indie comic publisher sales figures, reading legal transcripts of the Richard C. Meyer vs Marvel writer Mark Waid lawsuit, and livestreaming themselves violently punching and stabbing "SJW comics" respectively. The origins of the feud are blindingly autistic and requires revisiting and providing context of figures that left the scene years ago like Nerkish, Praetorian and Warcampaign and to be honest I can't be fucked; so I'll just leave it at that and say that it only looks weird now because now TUG and Rekeita have hundreds of thousands of unrelated subscribers and Thomas doesn't, but their continuing to despise and hate Roiloup after all this time is a reassuring reminder of their humble Comicsgate origins.




In minor Comicsgate news:



As far as I can tell, May 2022 is shaping up to be the first ever Ladies Month in Comicsgate, with Billy Tucci's Shi: Sakura and Mandy Summers' Gemshock leading in sales for the month. In addition to this, Charlie's London decided to go ahead and launch a sequel to her eponymous work with Charlie's London: From Walworth to Wartime, which Frog shrewdly hosted on her behalf given that Charlie's possesses the extremely rare quality (for CG) of public respectability and being someone Frog can present to mainstream comic professionals on the fence as a rare face of Comicsgate who isn't some combination of grifter, hungry old man or a raging insane sperg. Finally, Missrena, a CG lady of the slums for many a year, has gone ahead and launched Black Rhapsody, a "dark 18+ magical girl manga" which makes the bold move of taking solid art and fare which honestly looks it would be best suited towards young girls and mixing it with weird tiny-headed coommision pinups.

Smug Pug isn't the only person returning from the proverbial grave, as reports of Leroi's death at the hands of the CG Hitman have turned out to be greatly exaggerated, the would be tastemaker quietly returning to streaming a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately for Leroi, his former co-host Lord Crackhead33 appears to have quickly filled the vacuum Leroi left behind. Moreover, Crackhead appears to abandoned Leroi's guiding ethos of having "a show by, of and for the CG chat denizens (represented by Leroi of course)" in lieu of making his show, "CG Talk", an expressly "CG fan show" where 'the fans' can go to share deferences and appreciation of various CG creators. Worse still, Lord Crackhead appears to have turned away from even more of Leroi's teachings and embrace the #crackpack clique of CG (the name should have been a clue). Equally unsurprisingly, the creators in Comicsgate are really digging what Lord Crackhead33 has done with his channel and as of this writing are piling in to bask in the love.

All in all, it looks like Leroi's return as would be vox populi may be harder than he originally thought.

Finally Joe Archery, a truly obscure Comicsgater who ran a campaign that made $2000 last year, made this very thunkprovoking video on the corruptive nature of e-celebrity in Comicsgate and the eternal tension between the haves and have-nots. He credits much of this to the nature of having someone else's voice in your head for hours and hours every day in the form a livestream, which he argues that the human mind is not designed for and engenders in the smaller aspiring crators a sense of familiarity on the receiving end of the parasocial relationship that in truth is not actually there.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

What is the casus belli for this particular shitshow? There's gotta be a backstory here.

Doug went to a con and didn't personally thank JDA in public?

I don't really care what some faggot blue check journalist from shithole Reno has to say.

This one thing wouldn't erase your cow status, but the level would be significantly reduced if you didn't shout the hypocrisy of your 'I'm a good Christian I am' act from the highest rooftops. You put Ernst on blast for being 'unchristian' but don't even try to hide what a vindictive, hateful, foulmouthed prick you are. An amazing lack of self awareness.

Wasn't there a verse about removing the log from your own eye before taking the speck out of your brothers?

makes the bold move of taking solid art and fare which honestly looks it would be best suited towards young girls and mixing it with weird tiny-headed coommision pinups.

Strange. The B&W art is really good, the pinhead porn - isn't.

Leroi's guiding ethos of having "a show by, of and for the CG chat denizens (represented by Leroi of course)" in lieu of making his show, "CG Talk", an expressly "CG fan show" where 'the fans' can go to share deferences and appreciation of various CG creators.

I'm not sure what the difference is. Don't CG chat denizens only exist to suck off the creators anyway?

He credits much of this to the nature of having someone else's voice in your head for hours and hours every day in the form a livestream, which he argues that the human mind is not designed for and engenders in the smaller aspiring crators a sense of familiarity on the receiving end of the parasocial relationship that in truth is not actually there.

I can see how it happens, like having a favorite radio show host or the like. On the other I struggle to understand how someone views a person livestreaming to a few thousand watchers as their special friend, just because they, well, acted like a CG chat denizen, and paid them for the privilege.
I think there's the extra, cultish factor of THE MESSAGE in play, too.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

The vendetta between Thomas Roiloup and TUG/Nick Rekeita/YellowFlash goes way back over a half a decade ago when the three of them were also nobodies with fledgling CG-related channels, grinding out analysis of indie comic publisher sales figures, reading legal transcripts of the Richard C. Meyer vs Marvel writer Mark Waid lawsuit, and livestreaming themselves violently punching and stabbing "SJW comics" respectively. The origins of the feud are blindingly autistic and requires revisiting and providing context of figures that left the scene years ago like Nerkish, Praetorian and Warcampaign and to be honest I can't be fucked; so I'll just leave it at that and say that it only looks weird now because now TUG and Rekeita have hundreds of thousands of unrelated subscribers and Thomas doesn't, but their continuing to despise and hate Roiloup after all this time is a reassuring reminder of their humble Comicsgate origins.

Thanks for spoon feeding me. That explains a lot about how they come across as believing that they have this outsized, exaggerated amount of relevancy compared to reality. Kind of true to a degree. I'd love to see the stats behind how many SubscribeStar subs they have. Thomas really isn't wrong when he says in between thrusts in his brother that they do live rent free in peoples minds.

Finally Joe Archery, a truly obscure Comicsgater who ran a campaign that made $2000 last year, made this very thunkprovoking video on the corruptive nature of e-celebrity in Comicsgate and the eternal tension between the haves and have-nots. He credits much of this to the nature of having someone else's voice in your head for hours and hours every day in the form a livestream, which he argues that the human mind is not designed for and engenders in the smaller aspiring crators a sense of familiarity on the receiving end of the parasocial relationship that in truth is not actually there.

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Surprised that you found this. The video is just a giant cope. He's trying to tell us about how it's bad if nobody knows who you are. Nigger, nobody knows who you are. Try to google Joe Archery. You can't find him. Try googling Joe Archery Comics, his shit is so obscure I had to add quotation marks around Joe Archery. Why is he giving advice on how to be notable? It reminds me of when Mundane Matt wrote a book on how to be successful on YouTube.

It's funny listening to him because you can tell he's trying his best not to sound sour grapes about his level of success but he basically ends up parroting anti-CG talking points about how CG is just livestreamers grifting paypigs with parasocial relationships. The whole thing is basically just shots fired at EVS LOL.

 

[The Coon]

I don't really care what some faggot blue check journalist from shithole Reno has to say. Hope you're having a good weekend.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

It's funny listening to him because you can tell he's trying his best not to sound sour grapes about his level of success but he basically ends up parroting anti-CG talking points about how CG is just livestreamers grifting paypigs with parasocial relationships.

Well he's not exactly wrong there. Though in the context of who he is and what he's doing, it sounds a lot like another CG carpetbagger doing the embarassing thing of joining a movement with individualistic, capitalistic overtones and then crying that EVS won't gib them a leg up.

I thought that at this stage of CGs existence, all those characters would have piled in and melted away already. I have to admire Joes determination or pigheadedness to stick around this long before crumbling.