Mass shooting streamed on Twitch - Payton Gendron/jimboboiii - 4chan schizo poltard kills 10 people, names /k/ and /pol/ in his manefisto

[IsaacShraeder]

I still find this hilarious

Least degenerate /pol/tard

 

[Golly]

Kid's sense of logic is warped beyond belief, especially for an engineering major. I'm a few pages into the Q&A bit of the manifesto and the very basis for his attack is flawed, even if you concede the statistics he cites. There are several examples of this off the bat, but for brevity's sake, I'll just going to nitpick the most glaring one.

He wants to oust immigrant replacers and cites black people as chief offenders when black people mostly aren't in the US due to immigration and the search for opportunity. Those that are tend not to require the government assistance figures he mentions. Black people were brought to the US against their will as part of the slave trade. The majority of black people in the US today are their descendants several generations over meaning they have as much right to be here as descendants of the pilgrims and those in the original 13 colonies.

If you're going to be a white supremacist, why not actually follow Hitler's example and aspire to become a charismatic populist leader? That's usually how all the shit they crave gets started. Remember, /pol/, Daddy Hitler never wanted weirdos to go on isolated shooting sprees.

 

[Sealbaby]

Imagine being so clueless and fucked in the head that you use valuable manifesto space to sperg out about utterly tedious gun ammo and armour trivia

 

[Nazrin]

They wouldn't survive, no. I have told them this many times, and they, without fail, ban me for calling them fat cunts.

They are fat cunts, all of them. They all seem to think of themselves as secret operators, yet being privy to the actual diets and exercise of those folks, I can safely say that not one of these faggots are remotely capable of it.

They seem to have a seizure at the thought of cardio, when in reality they need to run 3 miles in 15 minutes with full-kit before and after any engagement as a bare minimum. If they did that they could absolutely act as guerilla fighters, but not one of them can stomach running that far.


I think your bar for mentally sane is incredibly generous. There's several million combat veterans in your country alone. The key is this "innocent people" - most people are generally innocent, or generally guilty, depending on your personal views. Does this include heroin addicts? Paedophiles? If a paedophile has only molested children in his own family, then it isn't your business to judge, right? See how easy it is to play with this concept of innocence?

That's how you go from "Oklahoma farm boy" to "Hiroshima is now gone"

I mean if you can't see that people minding their own business trying to buy food and groceries for themselves or family is innocent, I feel like you aren't sane in the head. I think someone who molested a child is a lot different than someone shopping for goods, I hope you agree with me on that.

 

[Hyperbolic Steroids]

I came here to say three things.


Firstly - the Feds actively push out the idea that they're behind everything to discourage activism. This is outlined in an episode of South Park. Almost all governments do this. People think GCHQ, the SAS or MI5 is full of James Bond-esque superheroes when in reality, it's obese office staff, violent criminals paid just enough to work hard and aging paedophiles in suits. The Special Forces are the only ones of the bunch who are competent or redeemable as individuals.

Secondly - no shit, he's retarded, he's a teenager. I notice all the comments saying as such seem to imply they should get the aforementioned grossly incompetent "Mister Law Man" to handle this retard - because they, themselves, need to justify their own lack of intelligence by saying "I'm a retard, but I'm also a coward so you don't need to be concerned about my actions" - I don't think he can even drink over there, yet somehow he can get ahold of warlike radical literature and shoot up a supermarket? The Senate didn't vote for this American teenager to shoot up that supermarket! I urge anybody who thinks /pol/ is special, or influential for any reason other than it's behemoth size, to take a look at any of the regular posters from Community Watch.

These are blatantly mentally ill, often physically repulsive creatures. Most are wholly dependent on a cocktail of drugs just to keep them from killing themselves, and they exist in a sad state of medically prolonged death.

Teenagers are inherently violent - that's why you can enlist in most militaries as a teenager. The way that this shooting was planned out and based off of an existing trend shows that the shooter was gullible at best. Idolising an incident from several years ago in a small country thousands of miles away from civilisation. I see a lot of comments trying to say he looks evil, autistic and/or overweight - he looks like Null. You're arguing about slight differences between political groups, when in reality, KF/pol/Reddit represent a closer-to-truth reality than what most media agencies are privy to. This boy, due to social isolation and personality defects, was "indocrinated" with a common belief system. An already-violent personality combined with constant saturation of mass shootings is a recipe for disaster.

Thirdly, the reason why it's always a mass shooting is the same reason why it's always serial killers, satanists, paedophiles - you know, the more you talk about something, the more likely it is to happen. This is because bad people are not usually creative, and often base their plans off of existing methods. This is the actual reason the Christchurch video is banned off of most platforms - while the news happily airs brutal murders daily; look at how often Reddit airs "this old man said nigger and was brutally beaten by several young black men. This is good."

In the 70s, it was serial killers, then it was Satanists, then the IRA took control with their 90s campaign and hey, car bombs across the world. 9/11 and the Islamists took over with suicide bombings or attacks on transport links. Right now we're in the mass shooting phase. Five years from now, it could be poisonings or arson attacks - there's no way of knowing exactly what it is.

But no, mass shootings are not caused by rising mental illness. It is caused by CNN and a "meme effect" - this is simply a terrorist incident from an isolated teenager.

I agree with the meme effect in that a lot of murders, mass shootings etc happen just to make the one who commits said acts seem to be of importance. A surefire way to make your name a household hit is to plaster it across the headlines. Can you recall anyone who did really good deeds? What about really bad deeds? Vilification sticks with society much longer than Idoltry. If you are seen as a saint it won't matter in 5 years, however if you are seen as a piece of shit to some and a god to those who are despised then you TRULY make a name for yourself that goes down in history.

 

[dirtydeanna96]

Indigenous just refers to who has the most buried under the soil. Given the patterns of human movement and ancestry to say that one group is truly indigenous is fucking asinine unless they literally sprung up out of the ground there. Who were the REAL indigenous Americans? The Black Feet? Sioux? Lakota?

muh Autochthones and Spartoi

 

[Nazrin]

When pressed, you'll find that most people have a surprisingly low bar for murder. In the Second World War, this included up to 25% of some countries like Belarus, up to flat-out majorities of people are willing to kill for the "right reason" - convince a guy that being foreign is the right reason and you're good to go on war crimes.

I feel like your examples are quite different to what I'm trying to make. There's a difference between war, and a first world country. This kid killed people because he was under the delusion that he was saving the white race.

 

[Navajo]

I swear that shit was bordering on an Amerikaner meme come to life.

Every time I see a Colaws & Kaner meme outside of ifunny I get whiplash

 

[Nazrin]

Every time I see a Colaws & Kaner meme outside of ifunny I get whiplash

I had to do a double take whenever I saw the name "Amerikaner"

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

so much talk of the elites only to punish some random wagies and random people. These shootings are all pretty gay and niggerish, some gangbanger could shoot those in a drive by any random day.

 

[Hyperbolic Steroids]

Kid's sense of logic is warped beyond belief, especially for an engineering major. I'm a few pages into the Q&A bit of the manifesto and the very basis for his attack is flawed, even if you concede the statistics he cites. There are several examples of this off the bat, but for brevity's sake, I'll just going to nitpick the most glaring one.

He wants to oust immigrant replacers and cites black people as chief offenders when black people mostly aren't in the US due to immigration and the search for opportunity. Those that are tend not to require the government assistance figures he mentions. Black people were brought to the US against their will as part of the slave trade. The majority of black people in the US today are their descendants several generations over meaning they have as much right to be here as descendants of the pilgrims and those in the original 13 colonies.

If you're going to be a white supremacist, why not actually follow Hitler's example and aspire to become a charismatic populist leader? That's usually how all the shit they crave gets started. Remember, /pol/, Daddy Hitler never wanted weirdos to go on isolated shooting sprees.

If anything Hitler would want them to start families and become right wing politicians. Instead they black pill themselves and throw their (very valuable btw) white lives away in exchange for a literal 3/5ths compromise. It's ironic in a sense that his own life to himself is only worth a few bottom of the rung blacks. You think he'd become a huge proponent for the black supremacist communities that want to move back to Senegal or something.

 

[ustinanderson]

The entirety of the right-wing info ecosphere isn’t real, let’s face it. When you’ve got free access to guns and ideology like that in the mainstream, it’s only surprising this shit doesn’t happen on a daily basis. RIP grocery shoppers.

If you're worried about violent gun crimes I don't think it's white nationalists you should be concerned of.

 

[Willie Thrills]

I mean if you can't see that people minding their own business trying to buy food and groceries for themselves or family is innocent, I feel like you aren't sane in the head. I think someone who molested a child is a lot different than someone shopping for goods, I hope you agree with me on that.

Yes, but you're being extremely pedantic. You're comparing one extreme to one extreme - let's talk about more basic realities.

In your case, you don't have many posts so I can't draw from your own words - consider that Captain America's entire role in the world was "Roided out American man beating up Germans in their own country" - almost all cultures are incredibly violent. You're drawing a line of "mental illness" to distract from the fact that this type of "mental illness" is incredibly common and is ruthlessly exploited by your own government, to the tune of millions of individuals, for military purposes. It's very difficult to call something "mental illness" when it's so common and so integral to wider human socialisation.

This kid thinks of himself as a soldier, and the enemies are not civilians - he sees them as combatants who he has caught by surprise. Unfortunately, I don't see any way to actually undo that once it has been done. It is incredibly difficult to undo that perspective and there's a fucking lot of people who do hold that perspective. This perspective is most common among black Americans, by the way, which is why they even treat white Europeans like shit.

There's a difference between war, and a first world country. This kid killed people because he was under the delusion that he was saving the white race.

His entire manifesto echoes the sentiments of Brenton Tarrant, which itself put forward the idea that we were already at war and that when we bomb other countries, we are at war.

The kid's retarded, but it looks less like mental illness and more like the many incidents in Northern Ireland of teenagers shooting at soldiers, or Protestants, getting captured and giving the reasoning that they were "Fighting for the cause" - only for the "cause" to be some vague reference to Ireland.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The entirety of the right-wing info ecosphere isn’t real, let’s face it. When you’ve got free access to guns and ideology like that in the mainstream, it’s only surprising this shit doesn’t happen on a daily basis. RIP grocery shoppers.

There’s also the fact that most of it is people who’ve been exiled from every online sphere because of true believers.

Total strawman argument. What video game claimed to be real? Do the people on /pol/ admit their non stop ranting about "the Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have" is satire? No, they take that shit seriously. If you ever argued with them, you would know that much.



I'm talking about stormfags on /pol/, not the SJWs or whatever stupid group is there arguing with people. You've never been there if you think they don't fetishize Turner Diaries Day of the Rope violent fantasy bullshit as something they want in reality.

And they think the other shoe will drop any day now….

I think at this stage, /pol/ needs a containment SITE to separate it entirely from the rest of 4chan. I think 4chan's relatively lax moderation and anonymity make it far superior for discussion than any other kind of discussion board (including here). Anyone remember Shii's essay on anonymity?

I’ve also heard that separation thing about the Thunderdome.

This generation is fucked. Even if this whole thing doesn't glow in the dark or it isn't some internet based mk ultra controlled op shit, the fact remains that a very young kid with his whole life ahead of him just killed a bunch of random people and threw his life away for the sake of online clout and accelerationism. Seems to be an increasingly common attitude as of late with the new crop of terminally online younger people. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. These lonely kids on both sides don't know how to differentiate a meme from real life anymore because the internet has been integrated into every facet of daily life. I also feel like the last few years of people doing this kind of shit with increasing frequency is just showing the stress cracks of a society in decline. I honestly think the complete dissolution and Balkanization of the U.S. would be preferable to the languishing, drawn out death by a thousand cuts the country has been suffering for the last twenty years. Everyone just needs to go to their corners before we end up lodged in the bloodiest civil war in human history.

Am I being too much of a doomer, or does it feel like this summer is already shaping up to be the worst one yet?

Honestly, I think it’s a mixture of both. If 2020, 1/6, and the Trucker convoy doesn’t start massive shit, I’m not sure what will. And honestly, right wing people seem to really believe that there’s always some massive change to the status quo, and all they have to do is provide the spark and announce that the emperor has no clothes.

There's a difference between fantasy entertainment and political propaganda. I'm not saying one should be illegalized, but if you think /pol/ doesn't actually hate jews and doesn't believe in race realism and genocide as a political solution, etc., you are very naive. They are LARPers in the sense most of them won't do shit about it, but they hold that crap as their core belief structure as a fact.

And when they actually do something, the most we get is 1/6.

 

[Flake452]

He wore a mask? Disavow.

 

[ks99]

Thinking about all this wignat shit just popped this into my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeb5qYViQn0
>2022, a new European order
>Robot guards patrolling the border
>Cybernetic dogs are getting closer and closer
>Armored cars and immigration officers
It if only the zoomer in question was old enough to play NFS Underground when it was relevant. Jack Thompson would have a new genre to target.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

I'd like to hear what our resident retard wignat and my friend @Johan Schmidt has to make of it. Is this a glow op or is it real?

Probably real. Sometimes assholes just engage in pointless, frustrated acts of violence. Guy was a dumbass that ruined his life by semi-copycatting another shooting with less success and forethought. It wasn't revolutionary, it was just petty and impotent.

Could also be glowies; I don't think that glowies actively target individuals for subversion into this sort of thing. I think glowies go about messing with large clusters of people - websites, fringe parties, etc - using various types of agitatory material, and sit back and watch with the intention of ending the 'experiment' long before anyone does anything. Sometimes they 'miscalculate' and an especially schizoid individual comes along and goes for it too fast to pull the plug.

This guy just wanted to know how good it felt to kill another human, wanted that rush of power. Everything else beside that was a post hoc justification devised once he'd already made the decision to go shoot up some random supermarket like a retard. If his goal was to sow terror he failed, if his goal was to reduce the number of blacks significantly then he failed, if his goal was to make a statement - ala uncle Ted - he failed. He didn't even have the balls to go out fighting.

 

[Unheard Bird]

Dude looks like autism personified.

 

[Navajo]

This guy really walks that line of "Am I a retard or am I glowing" and at this point I don't think the two possibilities are mutually exclusive.

 

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The bigger story here is why do we have segregated supermarkets, in New York, no less?