Disaster India bans wheat exports to try and tame prices as a scorching heatwave curtailed output - India is the second-largest wheat producer on the world.

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May 14 2022

India banned wheat exports on Saturday, just days after saying it was targeting record shipments this year, as a scorching heatwave curtailed output and local prices hit an all-time high amid strong export demand.

The government said it would still allow exports for letters of credit that have already been issued and on the request from countries that are trying “to meet their food security needs.”

Global buyers were banking on the world’s second-biggest wheat producer for supplies after exports from the Black Sea region plunged following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in late February. Prior to the ban, India was targeting to ship out a record 10 million tonnes this year.

The Indian ban could drive up global prices to new peaks and hit poor consumers in Asia and Africa.

“The ban is shocking,” a Mumbai-based dealer with a global trading firm said. “We were expecting curbs on exports after 2-3 months, but seems inflation numbers changed government’s mind.”



Rising food and energy prices pushed India’s annual retail inflation up towards an eight-year high in April, strengthening economists’ view that the central bank would have to raise interest rates more aggressively to curb prices.
Wheat prices in India have risen to a record high, in some spot markets to as high as 25,000 rupees ($322.71) per metric ton, versus the government’s fixed minimum support price of 20,150 rupees.

Heat wave shrinks crop​

Earlier this week, India outlined its record export target for the 2022/23 fiscal year that started on April 1, adding it would send trade delegations to countries such as Morocco, Tunisia, Indonesia and the Philippines to explore ways to further boost shipments.
But a sharp and sudden rise in temperatures in mid-March means the crop size could be smaller than expected at around 100 million tonnes or even lower, a New Delhi-based dealer with a global trading firm said, versus a government estimate for an all-time high of 111.32 million tonnes.

“The government’s procurement has fallen more than 50%. Spot markets are getting far lower supplies than last year. All these things are indicating lower crop,” the dealer said.

In April, India exported a record 1.4 million tonnes of wheat and deals were already signed to export around 1.5 million tonnes in May.

“Indian ban will lift global wheat prices. Right now there is no big supplier in the market,” the second dealer said.

 

[Ow The Edge]

I disagree. There are plenty of government officials, including military and police, in cities, and as I have already mentioned every government stockpiles weapons. There is a reason historically that rural communities are subjugated by urban communities.

Well, the way things are going we'll soon find out.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

The urban populace will enslave the rural populace

lol
With what? Gay rights and anxiety pills?

 

[Cincinnatus]

lol
With what? Gay rights and anxiety pills?

Hitler was once a painter and Stalin was once a meteorologist. You never know who the dangerous men are until it is too late.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Hitler was once a painter and Stalin was once a meteorologist. You never know who the dangerous men are until it is too late.

Stalin was also a priest in training lol
Like I said, this isn't the soviet era, chief.
People are way more cautious of government overreach, even the low tier government people themselves, especially where all that bullshit had happened once, like where I'm at.

 

[Cincinnatus]

Like I said, this isn't the soviet era, chief.
People are way more cautious of government overreach, even the low tier government people

If there is a societal collapse people will be desperately looking for a tyrant to lead them. Must humans are submissive and want someone else to take responsibility for their (the human's) life. I am basing my hypothesis on how these things have turned out in the past, as I don't think humans have changed at all since the Bronze Age.

 

[theshitposter]

You can buy wheatberries and grind them at home. Realize though that you will never get a product as refined as all purpose white flour. You can get decent whole wheat, wheat bran, and wheat germ from it. I'd suggest oats above wheat, even though they have also surged in price. Oat groats are easy porridge and can be flaked just as easy. Used as binders in things like meatloaf and in many baked goods. You can also make oat flour out of them, but I am going to plead ignorance here as I have never used it.

time to shill the millet supremacy

I guess that learning how to make bread at home at the start of the lockdown was a small win after all. The coming months will be rough on those most effected by the inevitable price hike. Being 50% cat and 50% bread, I don't have anything to worry about really...unless the hungry start getting ideas.

bruh how are you going to make bread without the fucking grains

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

If there is a societal collapse people will be desperately looking for a tyrant to lead them.

One tyrant? Maybe two?

Must humans are submissive and want someone else to take responsibility for their (the human's) life. I am basing my hypothesis on how these things have turned out in the past,

Like I said, chief, we're not in the past no more lol

as I don't think humans have changed at all since the Bronze Age.

lol
Keep thinking that, hero.

 

[Cincinnatus]

Like I said, chief, we're not in the past no more lol

How has our society changed? How are we different than the Greeks or the Romans or the Soviets?

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

How has our society changed?

Our Minecraft high score is generally far higher than our grandfathers'.

How are we different than the Greeks or the Romans or the Soviets?

How are the Nigerians any different that the Japanese lol

Come on, kid, you seem like a smart guy. You can do better.

 

[Cincinnatus]

How are the Nigerians any different that the Japanese lol

The only difference is that the Japanese have food and safety and the Nigerians don't. Starve and terrorize the Japanese like we did during WW2 and they'll start acting like Nigerians again.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

The only difference is that the there is no difference.

lol

 

[I am the Muffin Maker]

You can buy wheatberries and grind them at home. Realize though that you will never get a product as refined as all purpose white flour. You can get decent whole wheat, wheat bran, and wheat germ from it. I'd suggest oats above wheat, even though they have also surged in price. Oat groats are easy porridge and can be flaked just as easy. Used as binders in things like meatloaf and in many baked goods. You can also make oat flour out of them, but I am going to plead ignorance here as I have never used it.

If you do this you need to bolt the resulting flour.

Also for the love of god people. Wheat flour goes rancid, please freeze that shit if you want it to last longer. White flour has a longer shelf life.

For me the bigger question is what governments are going to be brought down by this. The Arab Spring was really a series of food riots. We're already seeing Sri Lanka shit the bed after 20 or so years of stable government, who's next.

 

[MadStan]

There are many things humans can tolerate and conflict produces shortages of things, but none more so than food shortages cause more harm. While we can lower energy use, find alternate sources of most things, food scarcity is one threat that can lead to further conflict over resources. Energy can be produced anywhere given the will - whether it be fossil based, solar, nuclear, gas, hydro etc.

As climate change produces profound effects on land and what land becomes productive, we see Canada becoming winners but also Russia.

While we wail today about gas, the real battle being fought is that of the 2 most important things for survival of a country that are not capable of being produced "anywhere":

1. Water sources.
2. Food sources.

You simply need huge volumes of both and even with the greatest of technological achievements that are predicted to occur, these 2 processes will still require natural cooperation from Nature to provide a region capable of production of both water and food.

Given Russias large production of wheat, and given that China buys more wheat annually than what even Russia produces, alignment with buyers and sellers is more or less what needs to happen as Russia has not stopped producing wheat.

 

[Male Idiot]

I doubt Hungary will have problems. Also yeah, city bugmen aren't that strong nowdays as in the soviet steel worker times.

And any semi competent state will at least ensure good safety. Though for the US it is Biden....

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Meh. Worldwide is an overstatement imo. Very likely, if there's a famine, it'd be unevenly distributed. The Americas, for example, would be likely quite unaffected, save for a few seasonal products vanishing, since they're a net food exporter. Ditto for Western Europe, which will be rich enough to get first dibs on food imports.

The biggest losers would likely be a large swathe of Africa and poorer Middle Eastern countries, which were already food insecure in better times. Expect mass casualties and horrific wars sparked by this over there. Asia is so-so, China had been already stockpiling food for sometime, and the richer ones like Japan and most of SEAsia would likely make it without issue. India might feel the crunch however, as do the poorer Central Asian -stans.

Holy shit this. Anyone ITT dooming about this through a fucking internet connection on an electronic device, you are a fucking moron. Especially if you are from the west. It is peasants in third world mudhut shitholes that are going to feel the pinch. The west produces a fuckhuge surplus of grain and we can afford it when prices rise. You don't need to know how to forage in the wild or grind up acorns to make substitutes. Stop it. We have the heartland. We will be fine. By "we" I mean the people with free time, wealth, and the ability to shitpost on a gossip website are not going to starve.

 

[Cincinnatus]

Holy shit this. Anyone ITT dooming about this through a fucking internet connection on an electronic device, you are a fucking moron. Especially if you are from the west. It is peasants in third world mudhut shitholes that are going to feel the pinch. The west produces a fuckhuge surplus of grain and we can afford it when prices rise. You don't need to know how to forage in the wild or grind up acorns to make substitutes. Stop it. We have the heartland. We will be fine. By "we" I mean the people with free time, wealth, and the ability to shitpost on a gossip website are not going to starve.

Again, where are the Africans, South Americans and Middle-Easterners going to go when things get bad? They'll go to Europe and North America. We already have a refugee crisis now, imagine how much worse a famine will make it.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

Again, where are the Africans, South Americans and Middle-Easterners going to go when things get bad? They'll go to Europe and North America. We already have a refugee crisis now, imagine how much worse a famine will make it.

Wont the people traffickers starve too?

 

[Cincinnatus]

Wont the people traffickers starve too?

They won't need to be trafficked. In North America they'll march in hordes like they are doing at the Texas border right now, just in much larger numbers. In Europe they'll march across Turkey and sail across the Mediterranean in wooden boats. They already do these things now, without the threat of famine.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Again, where are the Africans, South Americans and Middle-Easterners going to go when things get bad? They'll go to Europe and North America. We already have a refugee crisis now, imagine how much worse a famine will make it.

South America is pretty food secure too. Net exporters. Not an Americas problem. There is one continent where this is a big issue, Africa. And it's mostly the northern part. And that ain't my fuckin' problerino. It's their governments and the EU. Maybe they learned something since the Arab Spring. Maybe not.

Regardless, there is absolutely zero excuse for the roadkill recipes and other prepper doomer bullshit ITT. It isn't us. It's never us. Stop.

 

[Death Grip]

It's all part of the plan people:

https://www.straight.com/news/nukes-kill-1-billion-defence-expert-recalls-2019-us-simulation-of-nato-russia-war-over-ukraine