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Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.
Typical Boogie, 10% truth 90% lies. So he read somewhere online about the OnlyFans things, spins it to make it about himself…
“My TOTALLY REAL friend told me a secret about her industry!”
In reality he’s seething that the $100’s he spends a month online to talk to girls isn’t what he thought it was.
I'm surprised that Boogie doesn't understand how inappropriate his behavior is. I don't think he knows how odd it looks that he is constantly shirtless dueting with young girls, and talks about pornography/sex daily.
It's for that reason I think Frank is right when he said Boogie would be a sex offender if he were able-bodied, and it would be much worse if he had a charming personality/good looks. He tweeted nasty perverted shit at that one woman and failed to see why people didn't like that he messaged sexual things to a stranger. He's tweeting publicly at nudes OF girls post on their Twitter. He's talking all the time about his sexual experiences and his sugar babies and his body.
This man is 50 years old and he has no self awareness. He pointed a gun at someone's head with his finger on the trigger, and failed to see how he was in the wrong. This is really common in violent offenders/abusers, they simply don't understand why their behaviors are deplorable. Boogie is incapable of change for this reason.
Boogie continues his obsession with Belle Delphine. Remember last month when he spent a good week tweeting about how he wanted to make a sex tape with her? View attachment 3297313
Why would someone that is like 15x more popular than you want to be interviewed by a disabled, 420 pound pervert that can't get one video to over 100k views within the last month?
Keep paying for her only fans, its where you belong simp.
For anyone reading this researching new videos, reminder that he lied saying publically that his Sister raped him. It isn't just bad jokes, he will suicide bait, lie and say anything for attention. Being sexually abused by a sibling if it did happen is not something most people would spew out on a public Twitter, being raped is something even a garbage person would be ashamed to lie, lying about a family member raping you is straight up evil. Doing it just for something as empherial as social media asspats is almost incomprehensible. There are excellent, researched and sourced Posts following his years long trail of gradually snowballing lies about all his alleged sexual abuse but the sister thing is so egregious and easy to succinctly discuss(he even walks it back as untrue later his own self, blaming it all on his brother- the same brother who supported him when he was broke and homeless) it's worth mentioning yet again.
His lying is astounding. During CoVID he posted a video and lied about what was shown in the video in the text he posted along with that very video. Race Rudder is another classic that is just shameless.
No one else exists to him as a real person with feelings that matter except himself. The truth is totally malleable to him and so he will always be a liar and manipulator. It isn't just shitty hot takes on Twitter or offensive jokes.
I don't want to say he's dangerous because he's so stupid and lies so obviously; but he has no problem telling a lie to an audience potentially of millions that could ruin someone's life.
(Oh and shooting a pistol over hurt feelings, ya know, that too)
Another fun event for those just finding Boogie: he sent himself a postcard calling his only remaining friend a pedo AND he posted it for his whole audience to see!
No one is safe when Boogie is on the prowl for pity.
Typical Boogie, 10% truth 90% lies. So he read somewhere online about the OnlyFans things, spins it to make it about himself…
“My TOTALLY REAL friend told me a secret about her industry!”
In reality he’s seething that the $100’s he spends a month online to talk to girls isn’t what he thought it was.
It still blows my mind how this guy claims his «paid job » was to write a porn blog, that he is an admitted John and yet he still knows nothing about how the sex industry works from any angle.
Also pro-tip, Boogs: You’re no doubt on a bunch of OF girls shit lists now. While I don’t doubt there’s some truth to what he said you don’t say this shit out loud.
Aren’t you subscribed to a ton of girls? You think they’re going to want you interacting with them when your careless tweet could have cost them bigger fish?
You « date » escorts, dude, how do you still not get that 90% of this shit is about the illusion of intimacy?
No surprise he never fulfilled his dream of being actually IN the porn industry (you know he wanted his blog to make or break girls so they’d offer him favours for good write ups, or he’d be seen as some kind of expert/influencer and he’d be partying with Hugh Hefner and surrounded by Bunnies), you have to actively be trying to stay ignorant to be so obsessed with a topic and still know so little about it.
I'm surprised that Boogie doesn't understand how inappropriate his behavior is. I don't think he knows how odd it looks that he is constantly shirtless dueting with young girls, and talks about pornography/sex daily.
I hear where you're coming from 100% but I also think this is giving him an easy out and excuse for his repulsive and dangerously low IQ behavior, both in public and private. He's so insane that I think a large contingent of his historical viewers have come to this same conclusion, me included, but I think there's more to it than that. My question is to just what extent the behavior you mention from him is attached to a humiliation fetish of sorts, even if he doesn't recognize that himself. I mentioned it earlier responding to his tweet where he said "my content isn't made to make you laugh, it's for me to make you feel humiliated on my behalf cringe which turns me on makes me laugh".
I think a major part of this phenomenon is an even more basic version of this which is that he'll do anything for attention, even negative attention (which is most of what he receives from the internet now). I think he personally gets something out of us calling him out on his pedo behavior like on Tik Tok for example. He's cycled through a dozen different excuses now for why he's specifically shirtless in his vids with underage girls, he doesn't care at all about remaining consistent - even when he's being labeled a prolific pedophile. Remember him posting and laughing about what he called "pedo bait" on Twitter a few months ago and then backtracking and saying he did so to "raise awareness of the existence of pedo bait", before deleting the tweets entirely? He gets something out of the reaction I think. The same way he does when he takes his floppy tits out shirtless in the middle of a hotel lobby with guests, families and staff around.
"It sucks because I love Charlie so much and I watch everything he uploads".
Responding to @deadtofaunuspost on the bottom of page 1912. Here's more of that subtle but purposeful "lovebombing", at least I think that's what it's called. He said the exact same thing but directed towards both Ethan and Muta in a video just days ago. It's part of his campaign to set the narrative that what's happening to him really is punching down. "I watch all of my bully's uploads! Because I love them so much, I look up to them, I have since forever now! I only wish the big bad guys would stop bullying me so much. Btw I want to die rofl. ".
He even includes some of this tactic in his DM to Jackson with quotes like "you deserve all the love in the world" - wtf? Boogie has to be self-aware enough to recognize that ending his final DM to Jackson with that immediately after calling him a stupid asshole who is less educated than a 3rd grader, well that's textbook manipulation. It's not mild either which is often his go-to tactic, it's right-in-your-face and Boogie decided to publish the message while completely unnecessary all on his own.
This leads me to believe that just like how he continues to go shirt-less on TikTok when dueting with teen girls + making lewd comments about them (because he's a nonce ofc, but also bc he loves baiting people into calling him a pedo), that in a similar fashion he gets something out of being so obviously emotionally manipulative while simultaneously running cover with "No shit, I'm mentally ill". He knows all about the popular prevailing narrative of "Boogie is an emotionally manipulative, pathologically lying, gaslighting narcissist". He had zero genuine reasons to post that thread to Jackson at all, but there was especially no purpose behind sharing his own DM as the final part of those passive-aggressive tweets.
I fully expect Muta to get his DM's blown up by Boogie in the coming hours, if they haven't been already that is. I know it's coming because it's played out the exact same way each time when this has happened before, which has been a lot. In that clip a couple of pages ago Boogie winks at the camera while saying "I sure hope this doesn't make it's way back to Muta". Except clearly he wants nothing more than his words making their way back to him. Steven always needs the last word (see: DM sent just seconds before blocking Jackson above).
Just like when he explicitly threatened suicide north of 16 times in a conversation with small-time S&T era YouTuber EyeOfSol, he kept repeating how much he didn't want anyone else seeing the DM's (he clearly wanted them to, this was peak suicide baiting era).
We've seen time and time again that when any YouTuber, content creator, influencer etc. has their attention drawn to Boogie's antics and plans to talk about him in some way (usually a YT video), Boogie reaches out to them and turns the not-so-vague suicide threats up to 11. Since brushing up on Frank Hassle doctrine, he now also baits for sympathy in these pity DM's/begging requests by including the grave threat to his life that's activated whenever anyone with 1,000+ followers online mentions his username. This isn't simply limited to YouTubers, influencers, or peers in Boogie's space either. There were dozens of Sam & Tolki users who were harassed by Boogie in DM's and who would then post the text exchanges on the sub. Most of these users had Twitter accounts with less than 70 followers and all it took for Seethin' Steven to blow up their inbox was basic comments like "I don't see any change" under his fake weight loss posts.
Without fail it was always Boogie initiating these back-and-forth's and there's a number of these examples out there where Boogie went on to sperg out in a stranger's DM's for hours. I think it was with EyeOfSol where this went on for almost an entire weekend. There's a classic case of this happening where Boogie is blood red in the face with anger spamming nonsense over and over again like "WHERE IS THE TWEET? WHERE IS THE TWEET? WHERE IS THE TWEET?" x100 for the course of an entire evening. Kat Blaque, Christopher Tom, Turkey Tom, countless S&T users, Anything4Views and Maxmoefoe, a fake iDubbzz account - all of these people and then some have received Boogie's aggressive DM's subtly threatening suicide in uniquely different ways.
I think ThatDarnIrishMan has made some pretty compelling arguments in his videos to dispel the idea of Boogie having a humiliation fetish.
He's addicted to attention, and while he may be shameless in his desperation to get that attention he so desires, he definitely prefers positive attention to negative. Otherwise, he wouldn't completely lose his shit so easily any time anyone criticizes him. He also wouldn't have been able to maintain the good image he did for so long even with tard wranglers. He clearly enjoyed that period of his e-celeb status and would do anything to go back to when he was actually respected.
The shirtless thing is a shtick for Tik Tok. He thinks it'll make him stand out as that shirtless, fat guy on Tik Tok. That's all it is. It's his pathetic attempt to make himself standout.
The reality is that Boogie is just that much of a vapid moron. So, it's very easy to misconstrue his antics for having a humiliation fetish when he's really just that shameless and stupid in his desperation for attention.
He's addicted to attention, and while he may be shameless in his desperation to get that attention he so desires, he definitely prefers positive attention to negative. Otherwise, he wouldn't completely lose his shit so easily any time anyone criticizes him.
I'm with you here but agreeing with this only confuses me more when considering his recent antics and behavior. He pretty explicitly came out and said the quiet part out loud when responding to this Jackson guy. Boogie's blocked him therefore they can't trade DM's, but he'll settle for a podcast appearance that he knows will net an insane amount of views and far more than he'd ever receive on his own. The same goes for him continuing to lash out at Ethan a month after he barely mentioned Boogie for a minute on his podcast, now Steven's pushing to "clear the air" or whatever live on his show. He's tweeted about him hundreds of times now and with the way this current meltdown is trending, the same can probably be said for Muta and Jackson soon.
So by all appearances it seems as though Boogie's unhinged rants, personal attacks, and relentless tagging of these creators in question is done with the goal being to eventually appear on their podcasts (?). I think he lives for the drama alone though and is self aware enough to recognize that he's likely never going to be a guest on their respective podcasts. But it's also true that he's angling hard to get behind the microphone for whatever fucked up reason, he's said as such when referring to both Ethan and Jackson and inferred the same re: Muta. But like you said Boogie can't even handle criticism (however mild/repetitive) from faceless anons on S&T, KF or /fit/, and we've seen his thermonuclear spergouts when people with an actual following like Ethan, Keem, Muta, Christopher Tom, Fantano, etc. go after him.
Look at the responses to him being a guest on or even just discussed as a subject on podcasts that get far more views than he does like on PKA, the Official Podcast, Killstream, Cold Ones, that weird Star Wars one where he stroked out, etc. Surely he realizes that going head-to-head with Muta or Jackson/Charlie would be disastrous for him, right? Like when he's sperging out at these guys and saying he wants to talk about it on their podcasts, in the moment the attention is all that matters to him, whether positive or negative. But we know from years of historical record that negative attention absolutely drives him insane, so much so that he's dedicated the last years of his life to seeking it out bizarrely enough.
For instance he had to know that going on the Killstream with Frank Hassle and gleefully talking about his dad raping him was not going to be a net positive for him at all, but he did so anyway. I think a lot of this can be pegged down to just his low IQ and highly impulsive, erratic, and immediate gratification seeking behavior. With all of that said, it's impossible applying any form of logic to Boogie2988 so this thought exercise is worthless.
I think he lives for the drama alone though and is self aware enough to recognize that he's likely never going to be a guest on their respective podcasts.
Honestly, I think you're giving him way too much credit there. He'll do anything to get on those podcasts. Anything. It doesn't matter how, because he believes it'll give him relevancy.
I think a lot of this can be pegged down to just his low IQ and highly impulsive, erratic, and immediate gratification seeking behavior. With all of that said, it's impossible applying any form of logic to Boogie2988 so this thought exercise is worthless.
Steven knows on some level when he's doing something right/wrong. This is most obvious when you look at his whole nice guy act over the past decade. He knew what being a "nice" and "good" person looked like. Thus, the pandering to SJWs, the LGBTQ community, being anti-racism and being pro-feminism. He would then go overboard with the pandering by claiming he took beatings for his black and trans friends and claiming he was part of the first wave of feminists.
However, you look at his actions and you can quite clearly see that he isn't that person at all (the subtle racism, constant misogyny, pretending that he's bi-sexual because his gay friend kissed him 30 years ago).
You can take this awareness of his further when you look at all the times he's donated money to charity, fans or someone who needed money. The reason we know that Steven donates money is because he always TELLS US in an attempt to show what a good person he is. He knows that donating money is the RIGHT thing to do, but there's no genuine reason behind his charity outside of getting good guy points. "How can I be a bad person? I took beatings for my black ex-girlfriend, marched with LGBTQ people and opened up an LGBTQ safe space and donated money to them".
He knows how to play on people's emotions which is why he frequently uploads weight loss updates, 20 second workout videos, salad photos, dog photos and empty promises that he's going to improve. He doesn't care about eating better, working out or losing weight but he knows that posting about these things will get him praise, so he does it. The people who really care about these things just do it, say nothing and let the results speak for themselves.
You can see that Steven understands what the right thing to say is in any given situation. For example if he fucks up badly, he'll give a non-apology. "I'm sorry that you felt that way". He knows that apologizing is the right thing to do, but he doesn't understand that simply saying "sorry" and then giving someone the middle finger immediately after contradicts this gesture. Same goes when he says "I made some mistakes", "I've fucked up in the past". He knows that this is the right thing to say, but he doesn't mean it or ever elaborate because he doesn't believe what he's saying. You can even look to his tweets yesterday where he stated the day off by apologizing for his behavior before immediately justifying his lunacy with the mental health shield and then ultimately finishing the day by repeating the exact same behavior.
He also uses impactful language to demonize critics and paint himself as the victim. Case in point:
- "My haters are worse than RAPISTS and NAZIS"
- "The words 'kitchen table' mean something to me because that's where I was RAPED. I was RAPED there"
- "There's this subreddit that has mitiltrized and organized hate against me"
- "A CRAZED stalker came to my house to harm me"
- "Thank god Lucy Foxx didn't accuse me of RAPE. Thank god she didn't accuse me of RAPE. I would've gotten cancelled if she accused me of rape"
- "Lucy Foxx is a terrorist. All she wanted was my money"
I think the scary part is that this creature doesn't realize when he does this. It all comes naturally without a second thought. Someone who doesn't know any better would be easily convinced by his stories and accusations. Most of us aren't narcissists and want to believe that someone isn't such a POS that they'd lie about the things that Steven has lied about.
I would almost have some sympathy for him not being aware of his behavior, but so many people since 2019 (and before then) have pointed out his personality flaws and what his game is and he dismisses them as haters or tries to silence them. There is simply no way that he isn't aware of what he's doing now, but he still does it. This makes him even more detestable than he already was.
With how perpetually online Steven was and with his scattergun approach, it was only a matter of time before he reached some level of fame or infamy online. He had an early 2000's blog, his porn blog, his 500 Pounder blog, his Evil Squared blog, 4chan account and was doing dumb shit for attention on Youtube etc. Take a look at the below screenshots for further examples of what Steven was doing for attention:
Who knows what else he was getting up to? Fact of the matter is that he's the definition of someone who would do anything to get famous. He did accomplish that, discarded his public degenerate behavior and pretended to be a nice guy for a decade before his degeneracy started seeping through the cracks. Now we have the Boogie who we all know and love hate today.
One take on his recent behavior is that he wants that attention again. Being a degenerate is what gained him some infamy in the first place, so he's going back to his roots. I think he views Tiktok as a fresh start but "haha fat man dance funny" is not exactly what Zoomers find amusing. He seems to forget that he spent a decade building this nice guy image over on Youtube and is now acting the total opposite. You can also see that desperation for attention with how excited he was about the court case. Now that that ship has sailed, he's starting slap fights with fellow content creators. The scattergun approach is back.
TLDR: This was way longer than I intended it to be, I only really wanted to share those screenshots about Tinychat and briefly discuss that Steven knows about basic human etiquette (saying sorry, helping others), but doesn't feel or mean any of it. He's just an enormous, empty husk. No real feelings. No emotion. Zero empathy.
Some news that will shock no one, Creator Cards is dead.
Jeez, can't imagine what killed it. All they had to do was convince a bunch of creators to hand over their trademark of their likeness to Keemstar and Boogie. Who wouldn't want to associate with these two and relax their trademark for their shitty card game?
I think ThatDarnIrishMan has made some pretty compelling arguments in his videos to dispel the idea of Boogie having a humiliation fetish.
He's addicted to attention, and while he may be shameless in his desperation to get that attention he so desires, he definitely prefers positive attention to negative. Otherwise, he wouldn't completely lose his shit so easily any time anyone criticizes him. He also wouldn't have been able to maintain the good image he did for so long even with tard wranglers. He clearly enjoyed that period of his e-celeb status and would do anything to go back to when he was actually respected.
The shirtless thing is a shtick for Tik Tok. He thinks it'll make him stand out as that shirtless, fat guy on Tik Tok. That's all it is. It's his pathetic attempt to make himself standout.
The reality is that Boogie is just that much of a vapid moron. So, it's very easy to misconstrue his antics for having a humiliation fetish when he's really just that shameless and stupid in his desperation for attention.
Yeah I really don't think he has a humiliation fetish. Humiliation fetishes are VERY specific.
He has too much ego about himself. Nikocado likes to be humiliated. He likes to be compared to how thin and healthy he was in the past. He likes to show his downfall.
Boogie on the other hand doesn't like being compared to his glory days. He gets genuinely angry at people for shit talking him. He blocks way too many people. You don't block people if you like humiliation. You love the negative attention. It's what you worked at getting. Boogie wants people to talk about him, he wants people to praise him but he'll accept people talking shit about him because it opens the door to him getting more viewers he can manipulate into liking him. He repeatedly quotes that there is no such thing as bad press. He honestly believes that if he gets the Official Podcast to bring him on for a "discussion", he'll be able to manipulate at least a few of the audience into feeling bad for him. He does it all the time. Like when he was on talking about Better Help on The Ralph Retort. You can see him in real time changing his personality as he talks until he finds one that gets praise and then he doubles down on that one, repeatedly pushing to get more praise from everyone.
It's like Ricky Berwick. People claim he had a humiliation fetish but he's someone who screams "I just like attention".
Jeez, can't imagine what killed it. All they had to do was convince a bunch of creators to hand over their trademark of their likeness to Keemstar and Boogie. Who wouldn't want to associate with these two and relax their trademark for their shitty card game?
Boogie doesn't mind humiliation as long as it's on his terms. He's a narcissist and he needs to be in control of his environment.
Boogie can call himself fat but, if anyone else does it, it's a personal attack and people shouldn't be mean to him.
Boogie is all about tactics:
•His actions gain attention, usually negative.
•He spins that negative attention so it makes him look stunning and brave whilst the critics look like bullies.
•He controls the situation.
This is one of the reasons why his meltdowns are becoming more frequent. Boogie is losing control. He can't spin the negative to his advantage.
Jeez, can't imagine what killed it. All they had to do was convince a bunch of creators to hand over their trademark of their likeness to Keemstar and Boogie. Who wouldn't want to associate with these two and relax their trademark for their shitty card game?
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