General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I just noticed Ina made a cheaper t1 just for the emotes, and she said she would.
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The blog I linked earlier suggested that as long as a $5 tier exists, gifting will use the $5 tier. At least if you strictly/literally interpret their garbage vague wording.

Hopefully, it's just the usual YT being a mess, and this strategy works out as intended for her. But I'm not so sure it will:
On both her schedule/free chat and the waiting room for her cover premiere, right now, I have the option to gift memberships, and it's still showing as $25 for 5 memberships. So that would suggest it's gifting the $5 tier.

I guess there could still be a caching/consistency/delay issue, since she just changed the tiers very recently, but that's a stretch.

She could probably change it to $3 and $6, unless there are predefined levels they have to stick to.

Being charitable to you all retards I'll assume that no one of you voted multiple times.
After a day and almost 300 votes this is the composition of the lurkers of the thread

Completely useless to answer my orginal question that was addressed to the regular posters (ty again to all who wrote a response), but interesting nonetheless


I'm actually surprised that the % of those that started after early 2012 is so low, but at the same time I think that the option about Kizuna AI debut kinda derailed the poll. I'm sure lots of people watched some of her early streams but the "vtuber scene" as it is today wasn't even born then, so I think it's difficult that so many people fell into the rabbit hole of simping and following the talents so early on.
So we're talking what, 10-20 times as many lurkers as there are regular posters? Of course, that's only the lurkers who saw the poll and opted to answer it. Still, thought the ratio would be more extreme actually.

I answered the poll but never did answer your question. Shortly after HoloEN debut, I started seeing Gura memes in general anime spaces, thought the tech seemed kinda cool, and spiraled down into the rest of Hololive from there.
Naively wanted to make sure they weren't actually "dudes with voice changers" before getting any further into it, and that's how I ended up lurking here. Made an account during the brief period when people were hiding roommate/facedox info behind those logged-in-only spoiler tags, before that got shut down. If it weren't for that, I'd probably still just be lurking (sometimes I have info to contribute, but nothing interesting enough to make an account for).
 
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Since there is only a silly argument going on right now, what happened with the Israeli vtubers? Kind of forgot about them after getting caught up in other happenings.
Saw they actually have girls and that they stream, so is the CEO just retarded like I somewhat suspected or is there room for scams still?
Katta is really good for a new tuber (so she might not be new). Seems knowledgeable about the biz. Happy all the time. Serious case of rough Russian Jew voice, which is "sex voice" to me and like nine other guys and grating to many, many more. I'd probably simp out embarrassingly if weren't a pathological cheap-ass.

The other Jewtubers are really new and it'll take a while for them to grasp the basics of the job. Big "potential."

All their models are nice, but the tattoo loli is maybe too weird.

CEO seems like the type who acts like a scam artist while actually delivering a good thing. Common Israeli character.
 
Since there is only a silly argument going on right now, what happened with the Israeli vtubers? Kind of forgot about them after getting caught up in other happenings.
Saw they actually have girls and that they stream, so is the CEO just retarded like I somewhat suspected or is there room for scams still?
Unsure about the room for scams thing, but I've been catching up with them (only getting context from when they speak English) and they seem pretty entertaining.

Sparkles (Pippa sibling) is pretty standard, the frequent yelling aside her voice is pretty nice to listen to (albeit not matching her model a lil). She also just had her birthday stream yesterday and her audience seem very very active in supporting her.
Suika is very comfy. I watched her unpacking stream a couple days back and it was very pleasant. She sounds tired all the time though for some reason.
Nikki (Moona sibling) is very prone to dead air and isn't that fun to watch because of it personally. Had to tune out after a while.
Unsure about the other two. I didn't watch them long enough to notice anything.

But, other than that, from what streams I see get recommended, they usually sit around the 50-200 viewer range, even when playing a popular game like Apex or FNAF.
I mainly just watched them for their models and the ones who's voice doesn't match their model the most are definitely Sparkles and Suika.
 
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Mumei and Kronii have discovered the way to defeat Godchama.

Maybe it is just because I'm not much of a fan of Kronii and I am of Mumei, but the constant shipping with them and any interaction between them being "teetee" gets annoying. From the interactions I see between them it doesn't even really seem warranted and just way too forced by thirsty fans. It feels more just like a couple friends f-ing with each other (well mostly Mumei messing with Kronii), but I don't get any ship vibes out of it and it gets grating.

I guess this is how others feel about ships they don't agree with or who don't like shipping in general. Usually I don't mind it if it is in good fun and they go along with it (BaeRyS for example), but I've never really seen anything like it from Mumei or Kronii indicating they are playing along, but chat pushes it so hard sometimes.


As an aside, even though I'm not a Kronii, I do feel bad for her when it comes to Minecraft. Lately, holoEN Minecraft streams (and even occasional JP and ID tourists) have turned into "how can we f with Kronii/bunkeronii". She seems like she just wants to chill on there and built/play and I have to imagine it must get frustrating for her, even if there's quite a bit of content coming out of it. Hopefully they'll find some new project on there to distract them eventually.


I hope she's not anorexic, that height to weight rate really don't sound good.
Hope she's taking care of herself.

Just a lil bit more insight,
it's actually not that rare to see someone around this weight range in Asia, especially in shorter females (personally around the same range myself and have seen a lot of people around here be the same). Though, despite this, this doesn't actually really hinder how active/capable of movement you are and someone that's under 45~ kg can still move pretty well and still participate in sports, it's just that you're more likely to get tired easily (given underlying conditions) and can't handle lots of food well (in this case, 2 slices of pizza).

As has been said, BMI is a very lose thing and proven to not mean much. Also, I'm sure a girl has never lied about their weight and said it was lower than it actually is, definitely would never happen especially with thousands of people watching.



Usually the comments under Keeki's twitter posts are good about keeping holo/Kiara references out of it or at least very subtle, but I guess the thirst is just causing that to go out the window. So many memes and direct references to Kiara/KFP/holo. I guess as long as she doesn't directly acknowledge it then she's not breaking her contract (judging from what DDK has said in the past), but still usually the fans are at least a bit more restrained.

The thirst coming out of the Kiara and Reine trip is getting unhinged. It doesn't help that Kiara are Reine are fueling the fire with pretty much every post implying... things happening. Makes me think it is going to be a TakaMori 2.0 (or whatever their new ship name is), so I hope Kiara is ready to deal with that and not have it turn into the hot mess it did before, unless that is what she wants. I see people say she doesn't like the "bottom left" thing and was trying to get past it, but I always see a ton of content and interactions from her that just screams she still lives down there.


Is it considered thirstposting if I say Keeki looks great there?

She's mid 20s, good looking, a big weeb, into video games, probably a millionaire now or will be soon (between base salary, SC, memberships, promos, merch , etc. ), and still likely could use a bit of "fixing" (though she has improved), which for some reason is this threads current obsession. She's basically battling Pippa for the thread darling at this point!
 
TL;DR is that /vt/ numberfags were comparing their numbers, zoombie heard it and vented about it (mildly) in a membership post. Current narrative is that the allegations of leeching got under zoombie's skin way too much to the point of depression. I'm not following this too closely but it took me two minutes of checking /vt/ and archives to find this. I imagine the membership screenshot is true since it's easy to disprove. Koboniggers were gloating about her growth too.
EDIT: Added one more screenshot of an ARS supacha bullying Ollie that kind of implicates it being a /vt/ job.
Reminds me of when people were accusing Moona of leeching off Pekora so much that they cut back on interacting in streams. I remember Moona taking about it a little when she was bonding with Kronii.

Overzealous fans tend to be overly shitty.
 
Being charitable to you all retards I'll assume that no one of you voted multiple times.
After a day and almost 300 votes this is the composition of the lurkers of the thread

Completely useless to answer my orginal question that was addressed to the regular posters (ty again to all who wrote a response), but interesting nonetheless


I'm actually surprised that the % of those that started after early 2012 is so low, but at the same time I think that the option about Kizuna AI debut kinda derailed the poll. I'm sure lots of people watched some of her early streams but the "vtuber scene" as it is today wasn't even born then, so I think it's difficult that so many people fell into the rabbit hole of simping and following the talents so early on.
My sorry ass was slogging through this late after fucking up my sleep for a few days lol. And as usual some of the posts were the same drag with some shitty bait nonsense per usual.

I was actually fairly lateish to it all and have a god awful sense of time. At that point it was due to browsing the farms during the political shitstorms and some time before or during the "summer of love" because getting actual news anywhere else was impossible lol. Made an account because AnN or something ended up requiring one around then iirc.

Think the first time I caught wind of anything "vtuber as we know it" was an article posted when Melody showed up and pissed off all the ethots. It was hilarious to think that curiosity had me going to a porn site just to hear some chick talk about random bullshit just because the model and idea of it was different. (Only for a few days or so granted.) She also managed to have more personality than any most the cunts that showed up on twitch or got recommended in youtube etc.
While I knew OF Kizuna AI, FAQ YU pretty much sums that knowledge up. Neat, but effectively useless due to Moonrunes being foreign to me.

Pretty sure I showed up on the tail end of Taiwan, missed basically all the drama and popped up toward the point where Coco was already the full target and started dealing with the shit. Clips like the one of Flare saying "I want to play with my friend" with all the shit going on were fresh at the point. Saw the Miko Nigga clip before it all but didn't know who or look into it ever. Played Azur Lane, got like 3 or 4 of the girls, had no clue who the fuck they were and never even looked it up. In fact my dumbass only realized it like halfway through last year or something staring at Fubuki in game that I noticed this "friend" looked familiar.

That said while I recall checking out Gura first, I don't recall WHY. It wasn't on youtube due to any clips or anything because I used to autistically just watch the same few LPs or AGVN over and over if I wanted background noise. I think I legitimately was scrolling down the site and constantly saw "Virtual youtubers" last posted in and eventually went "What the actual fuck is this and why is it always there?" The shark/venti thing was a topic I saw, watched Gura cringe at her debut, then basically lurked around in here for a fair while before randomly slapping enter on some dumbass post that was totally wrong if it's what believe.

Entrenched way too fuckin deep ever since. But I got to see a red colored anime shark girl say "We need a crusade!" while singing Sabaton, so it ain't all bad. Been a lotta fun moments, some damn good laughs, and a lot less political faggotry in my entertainment from what point forward.

That out of the way
Less fag posting more hag posting.
 
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"We will stop being overly emotional faggots and white knights, being concerned about these crazy bitches instead of laughing at them is really embarassing."

This is what I want to hear.

Instead of that I'm reading how people are worried Kiara's bikini photos will attract stalkers. Crazy stalkers, not nice stalkers like you who respectfully wank to her and her everyday drama.
Sir, the thread to sperg about how so much better you are than Vtubers and their fans is over here.
 
If she does decide to wander through here, I hope she goes direct to the vtuber thread (easy enough from web search to go straight to thread). The farms are quite a culture shock, and even at surface level, the people that get covered on KF can be outright horrifying. No need to get mired in learning about all the exceptional people. (though, I find myself wandering A&N to just look at what a clown world we're in currently)

Also, if you don't get a reference in this thread, consider not looking it up, just don't. Keep your SAN up.
"We're bad men, Miss. But we aren't /vt/."

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As has been said, BMI is a very lose thing and proven to not mean much. Also, I'm sure a girl has never lied about their weight and said it was lower than it actually is, definitely would never happen especially with thousands of people watching.
oh you're right,she could be lying.
guess I was too naive,either way. I hope it's a lie and she's okay. maybe it could be for shock value or to "stir jealousy" or something.
if it's true I hope she gets better,if it's a lie I guess good.
 
Just like any other thread here, like Star Trek, or Star Wars, or anything. People discuss, appreciate and shit on things that are crap.

But not this thread. Here everything negative is denounced as "vt sperging", or "doomposting". People whisper about dox site where "evil antis" dox poor girls. Bitch, Kiwi Farms is the dox site! But no, in this thread people timidly ask if it's right to share members only posts and screenshots. 🤣

Half of these girls are full blown lolcows just waiting to be milked but, unlike literally any other KF thread, spread of information is discouraged "because this is not vt". Hell, you suggest preemptively messaging vtubers when they notice traffic from KF to explain that you are nice and fedora wearing farmers who respect the lady unlike those other evil farmers she heard about. 🤣

DSP, Ethan Ralph and fucking Yaniv should become vtubers with anime avatars, that would solve all their KF related problems permanently. *sigh*
sir, you're allowed to bitch and moan about vtubers you see as lolcows here, people will just rightfully call you a retard and move on if it's baseless /vt/ rumors

then again you literally joined in 2022, your only posts are in this thread, and you use emoji unironically, so maybe you deserve to be called a retard already

adopt the pipkin way of life instead, post more about what you want to see rather than wait for others to conform to your views and have fun

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This thread gets like reddit/a hugbox, a tribal warzone, white knighted, concernfaghole and occasional vt lite. Also lots of opinions without knowledge of the topic.... Well 🤷‍♂️ Still the best place on the net to discuss vtubers in addition to enough "ontopic for kf".

On ollie: she is stupid for addressing the vt rrats. For addressing the sharing of member stuff... Well she's not wrong... But incredibly naive.

@VTuber Bob Dole did is miss something? Nothing in the tweets looked to my like alluding to anything other than two friends having a nice vacation. Or maybe I am just blind due to the harmless background stories from the streams.

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Now I wanna see a last man standing all vtuber hunger game.
 
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