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I like this. Nijisanji is accused of neglecting the girls while Hololive is accused of neglecting the boys. Are we eventually going to have a situation where Nijisanji is primarily male vtubers catering to female fans the way Hololive is primarily female vtubers catering to male fans? (I don't know much about Nijisanji, please give me trashcans if needed; your feedback is appreciated.)
Potentially but this is just the fact that Any Color knows that the goods based on the males sell leagues better than the girls.

Going by the niji store, the Luxiem voice packs and acrylic stands + Noctyx voice packs and some of their acrylic stands are outselling the Lazulight anniversary goods

So yeah it makes sense as a financial but we can only wait to see if they skimp on Obsidya and Ethyria anniversary goods while going all in on Noctyx & Luxiem anniversary goods for the rrat to come true
 
I like this. Nijisanji is accused of neglecting the girls while Hololive is accused of neglecting the boys. Are we eventually going to have a situation where Nijisanji is primarily male vtubers catering to female fans the way Hololive is primarily female vtubers catering to male fans? (I don't know much about Nijisanji, please give me trashcans if needed; your feedback is appreciated.)
Is Cover really neglecting the boys though? They get 3D, costumes, concert, their own animation and even sponsorships. Uproar even gets a lot of advertising from some of the photos I have seen.

It's sad that they are no where near as popular as the girls, but I would hardly blame Cover at this point.
 
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What's going on with Kronii
 
From /vt/;
>https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1527543730009321472
HOLY SHIT, Kronii takes no prisoners kek.

Her SC reading just ended (which are her best streams btw) and in the end she made a trade with chat
>Can I read the rest next SC reading stream?
>I'll let you ask 3 questions about the "???" in my schedule

She then picked some relevant questions
for instance
>Is it 3D? No
and padded with some meme questions from the chat
>Why are you my oshi? I don't know
>Is it a solo thing or a group thing? Yes

Then she let the chart ask a couple more questions, did the same routine without revealing anything (except that it is not 3D) and bolted away.
She's getting as good with this short tweets as Kuzuha kek
 
Is Cover really neglecting the boys though? They get 3D, costumes, concert, their own animation and even sponsorships. Uproar even gets a lot of advertising from some of the photos I have seen.

It's sad that they are no where near as popular as the girls, but I would hardly blame Cover at this point.
Beat me to it. I think they wanted Stars to become more like the Nijimales while the girls would fill the Idol role but then they exploded and became known a Idol company and Stars no longer fit into the publics perceived image of Hololive. I think that's why Uproar has more of a male idol design to them, I expect StarsEn to have similar designs.

Looks like there are a bunch of recent Holo and Niji vods that being set to private
bots maybe?
Pajeet code monkeys fucked something up again.
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nijisanji management is a disappointment overall so I'm really not surprised.
Makes me sad for the girls, I wonder if they dislike it or have voiced their frustrations to management. either way, they do deserve better treatment.
the acrylic stand pomu commissioned for the lazulight video is better than the official one in niji store (I did like the ones on niji store though)
 
Up next: Sorahoshi Kirame

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Also, just because people may want my two cents, and to show that I am actually pretty capable of criticising Nijisanji when I think it's appropriate:

I think the Luxiem favouritism from the store is doing more to drive a wedge between fans than any sect of tribalfags or open letters from autistic fans could dream of. I appreciate that the girls have been getting quite a few sponsorships recently, but I'm sure we can all agree that our allegiances are probably to the individuals we like the most, and not the company they come from.

As such, 'this one makes more money and therefore there's more demand' doesn't necessarily translate to a group of people who want to be seen more as a group of friends than a product, and pulling back the curtain on the Capippatilist machine is, rightfully, going to piss people off. It doesn't even hold a lot of water because the limited girls' merch always completely sells out.

Whoever is in charge of running the store has been misfiring for months now and it absolutely needs addressing. The really cool Japanese Style Goods isn't even coming from the Nijisanji store proper, but as part of a collab.
 
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Might just be an unfortunate coincidence, but the last time I told myself that, the Nene tracing drama happened
TBH these look like basic "throne" poses I've seen tons of artwork drawn in. Though then again, as you said people thought that the Nene tracing was just a coincidence until she admitted it.

Beat me to it. I think they wanted Stars to become more like the Nijimales while the girls would fill the Idol role but then they exploded and became known a Idol company and Stars no longer fit into the publics perceived image of Hololive. I think that's why Uproar has more of a male idol design to them, I expect StarsEn to have similar designs.
Holostars owes its conception more or less due to boy idols, IMO. I don't mean in terms of design - though most of Holostars Gen 1 do look like anime boy idols - but in terms of how Cover went about launching and handling them.

IRL idol groups are segregated by gender. There are girl groups, and there are boy groups. Some companies will have both girl and boy groups, but they don't mix them. You see this in Kpop as well. There are no girls in BTS and no boys in Twice. Nobody questions this.

People can debate endlessly about the "are Hololive talents idols?" question, but it's fairly clear that Cover does take a lot of inspiration from idol industry, to the point of literally calling their girls idols in official statements. I suspect that the main reason why the guys got their own group with their own name, separate from Hololive, is simply because that's how it works for idol groups. And here's the thing - it works really well for IRL idols. The top boy groups in both Japan and Korea are often more successful than their female counterparts. It was perfectly reasonable for Cover to think that this was the best approach, because this is what works in the industry they were emulating.

As it turns out, vtubing isn't quite the same, and Holostars remain miles behind Hololive in terms of popularity. I've talked about this here before, but I suspect that the reason for the difference is that while music - the main creative output of IRL idols - is universally popular, the vtubing fandom is a big sausage fest. It's easy to engage teenage girls with the concept of pretty boys singing songs. Hell, boy idol groups arguably predate girl ones in Japan, if one counts the original Johnnys group from 1967. The vast majority of vtuber fans back in 2019 when Holostars launched, on the other hand, were guys. So Cover's boy group didn't appeal to guys, who want to watch cute girls, and didn't appeal to many girls, as a result of them not knowing what vtubing is.

Since 2019 more female fans have made their way into the fandom. Which is why I am probably more optimistic for StarsEN's chances than the diehard Holo fans here are, ironically.
 
More on Luxiem Goods, there seems to be a hashtag trending on Weibo (Chinese Social Media) that goes like #LuxieminsultsChina or #LuxiemantiChina

No one knows why or what it's about, people are spectulating it might have something to do with their merch releasing on 06/04 - the same date as the Tiananmen Square Massacre

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OKAY
so it seems like some people or a group of people are putting fake subtitles on Luxiem stills passing them off as things the boys said about China/Chinese.

One possible group behind this seems to be anti-Vtubers and anti-idols and don't want another Vtuber group to go big in the mainland
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More on Luxiem Goods, there seems to be a hashtag trending on Weibo (Chinese Social Media) that goes like #LuxieminsultsChina

No one knows why or what it's about, people are spectulating it might have something to do with their merch releasing on 06/04 - the same date as the Tianamen Square Massacre
I could get behind it if they finally realised they were being milked but this is just retarded.
 
As long as they don't go full Luxiem and can still be relatively succesful, I'll be happy.

Edit: If Yagoo hires a wrestling autist I would kneel so hard my knees would sink to the Earth's core.
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More on Luxiem Goods, there seems to be a hashtag trending on Weibo (Chinese Social Media) that goes like #LuxieminsultsChina

No one knows why or what it's about, people are spectulating it might have something to do with their merch releasing on 06/04 - the same date as the Tianamen Square Massacre
Retarded bugmen being retarded. That said, I hope this escalates and puts the fear of the bugmen into the EN management. The China pandering will eventually blow up in their face at some point, I don't trust the zhang hivemind to not constantly perceive imaginary slights against it's supposed sovereignity.
 
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More on Luxiem Goods, there seems to be a hashtag trending on Weibo (Chinese Social Media) that goes like #LuxieminsultsChina or #LuxiemantiChina

No one knows why or what it's about, people are spectulating it might have something to do with their merch releasing on 06/04 - the same date as the Tiananmen Square Massacre

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Good. Hopefully its enough for the bugmen investors to get rid of them.

The only gay that should be in this company is yuribaiting
 
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