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[quaawaa]

Those passive chips require close proximity to work, and would have to be close to the body's surface to be able to reliably transmit because, again, our bodies readily absorb all the useful frequencies for these sorts of devices. The passive part means that a transceiver would have to be close by, either worn on the body or held by someone monitoring you. The former places strict limits on the application of the technology, while the latter obviates it entirely as you can be observed swallowing the pill anyway.

If the purpose is a vaccine card that can't be faked, it is perfect tech for that. The enforcers can just carry around a scanner (which will probably be built into phones if it isn't already) and physically touch people to scan them. You're thinking about a constantly updating live feed, but they don't need that for their goal of ensuring that everyone takes whatever "medicine" they are "requested" to.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Those passive chips require close proximity to work, and would have to be close to the body's surface to be able to reliably transmit because, again, our bodies readily absorb all the useful frequencies for these sorts of devices. The passive part means that a transceiver would have to be close by, either worn on the body or held by someone monitoring you.

So like a cell phone, then. And probably mandatory active app in phone for their med plan benefits. Insurance companies are already offering consumers the choice of installing GPS devices in cars for cheaper insurance. They're trading money for your data, which I'm sure they'll sell to anyone. I'm sure the best prescription plans will only be offered if you consent to provide constant biodata with every pill you take.

 

[JosephStalin]

No surprise at all...none whatsoever, and believe that number will only get worse for Joey.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joe-biden-approval-lowest-ap-poll/2022/05/20/id/1070697/?ns_mail_uid=32ade90a-5dd3-4a6e-937d-3f54e121bd1a&ns_mail_job=DM322285_05202022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010104l9x98t

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[Meat Target]

The Feds are re-prosecuting the two guys who fell for the Whitmer gayop whose trials ended in hung juries.



What, you thought the Phosphorescent Ones were gonna let an embarrassment slide?

 

[mold]

Also, keep in mind that Washington and Oregon are overt with their election fraud (both exclusively use mail in ballots), and while California still has physical polls, their elections are also very suspicious. The fraud has a very strong demoralizing effect.

OR has *always* had mailin voting because it's a fucking frontier state and there's like nobody here. Mailin voting is pretty common in the big empty west, OR is unusual in never even bothering with anything else, but longstanding VBM isn't especially corrupt. Allowing VBM in places where people have to travel long distances to cast their vote prevents undue influence on voters - eg giving people rides and getting them drunk before they cast their vote, an extremely common practice when the systems were being set up.

WA always had it as an option but didn't mandate it until 2011, and yeah probably for unsavory reasons, but still VBM isn't always terrible, it's fast VBM with no oversight that is terrible garbage. it's really important to distinguish between functional VBM and what happened in 2020 so people can't point at longstanding VBM jurisdictions all "well *they* do it and it's not a problem"

 

[Ruin]

The Feds are re-prosecuting the two guys who fell for the Whitmer gayop whose trials ended in hung juries.

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What, you thought the Phosphorescent Ones were gonna let an embarrassment slide?

I don't understand how this kind of thing isn't a massive civil rights violation. If you're found not guilty or a hung jury occurs federal agents can just snatch you and try you over and over again until they get the results they want?

How is that even remotely compatible with the idea of a Constitutional Republic?

 

[Meat Target]

I don't understand how this kind of thing isn't a massive civil rights violation. If you're found not guilty or a hung jury occurs federal agents can just snatch you and try you over and over again until they get the results they want?

How is that even remotely compatible with the idea of a Constitutional Republic?

A mistrial is not an acquittal, so it's not double jeopardy (which is prohibited in the Constitution if you are acquitted).

 

[Ruin]

A mistrial is not an acquittal, so it's not double jeopardy.

I mean I get that but it's still kind of fucked up.

 

[Oxous]

The Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco is denying Pelosi communion due to her stances on abortion.

Personally, I'm surprised she's religious at all.

 

[Meat Target]

The Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco is denying Pelosi communion due to her stances on abortion.

Personally, I'm surprised she's religious at all.

She's not.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

No surprise at all...none whatsoever, and believe that number will only get worse for Joey.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joe-biden-approval-lowest-ap-poll/2022/05/20/id/1070697/?ns_mail_uid=32ade90a-5dd3-4a6e-937d-3f54e121bd1a&ns_mail_job=DM322285_05202022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010104l9x98t

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Only 33 percent of democrats think the country is headed in the right direction and they think it is because the Biden Administration isn't full moonbat tyranny of people getting jailed and executed and a thought crime board, a gun grab, a 2 trillion dollar college debt jubilee, etc. The biggest slide in the AP polling is democrats thinking the administration is a loser because it isn't extreme enough. They'll vote blue no matter who anyhow.

 

[X Prime]

I don't understand how this kind of thing isn't a massive civil rights violation. If you're found not guilty or a hung jury occurs federal agents can just snatch you and try you over and over again until they get the results they want?

How is that even remotely compatible with the idea of a Constitutional Republic?

Your mistake was thinking that "Civil Rights" violations being prosecutable were meant as anything but a way for the government bureaucracy to exert legal power over you if they felt you violated some random rule.

 

[teriyakiburns]

If the purpose is a vaccine card that can't be faked, it is perfect tech for that. The enforcers can just carry around a scanner (which will probably be built into phones if it isn't already) and physically touch people to scan them. You're thinking about a constantly updating live feed, but they don't need that for their goal of ensuring that everyone takes whatever "medicine" they are "requested" to.

The purpose is to transmit a message when the pill is digested; a one-time event that isn't entirely predictable, so can't be predictably monitored. I'm not thinking about live feeds or anything of the sort. They're desribing a transmitter that is activated by the act of digestion, which would:

1) be able to acquire enough energy at the moment of digestion
2) use that energy to transmit a message at a frequency that isn't blocked or massively attenuated by the human body
3) be able to do so without an antenna long enough to transmit at that frequency

They're selling a fairy story to a bunch of people who think that microchips are magic. It's vapourware. Investor fluff. Marketing bullshit, spread about to make old idiots feel clever. Saying "with a cell phone" doesn't magically make it work, unless you've attached a very large receiving array directly over the user's stomach to pick up the attenuated signal that this chip will manage to produce, or can convince the user to hold the phone over their stomach for however long it would take to digest the pill (which might be hours). It's not like an NFC chip injected under the skin. It's not something that requires a remote source of energy to activate, because that obviates the entire concept of a magic pill that just can tell the medicine company that it's been eaten. It can't have a battery because not even a retard would make people swallow batteries. It's a chip that uses the digestive process to somehow, magically, do things that are either highly implausible or outright impossible.

 

[Oxous]

She's not.

Shit, my bad.

"I'm surprised she says she's religious" would've been better.

 

[quaawaa]

OR has *always* had mailin voting because it's a fucking frontier state and there's like nobody here. Mailin voting is pretty common in the big empty west, OR is unusual in never even bothering with anything else, but longstanding VBM isn't especially corrupt. Allowing VBM in places where people have to travel long distances to cast their vote prevents undue influence on voters - eg giving people rides and getting them drunk before they cast their vote, an extremely common practice when the systems were being set up.

WA always had it as an option but didn't mandate it until 2011, and yeah probably for unsavory reasons, but still VBM isn't always terrible, it's fast VBM with no oversight that is terrible garbage. it's really important to distinguish between functional VBM and what happened in 2020 so people can't point at longstanding VBM jurisdictions all "well *they* do it and it's not a problem"

You’re making it sound like they’ve had mail in voting since the frontier days. The first election with vote by mail in Oregon was in 1981, the first federal election by mail was in 1996, and the first presidential election by mail was 2000. It is way easier to pressure someone to vote when you can see their ballot than on a ride to the polls, not to mention all the shady stuff that the postman or election official could (and most likely) do. VBM is always terrible; there is no way of verifying that the vote totals actually correspond to real ballots filled out by eligible voters because the chain of custody is broken by definition.

• 1981 The Oregon Legislative Assembly approves vote-by-mail for local elections, at the discretion of the county; at least one polling place in the county had to remain open on election day.
• 1987 Vote-by-mail becomes permanent, with the majority of Oregon's counties making use of it.
• 1989 A House bill to extend vote-by-mail to include the 1990 primary elections was defeated in a 33–27, non-party-line vote.
• 1992 Governor's Task Force on Local Government Services identifies statewide vote-by-mail as one of the most significant opportunities to save money on conducting elections.
• 1995 Oregon becomes the first state to conduct a federal primary election totally by mail.
• 1996 U.S Senator Ron Wyden is elected by mail with a 66% turnout, succeeding Bob Packwood.
• 1998 Oregonians confirm their overwhelming support for vote-by-mail by passing Measure 60.
• 2000 Oregon becomes the first state in the nation to conduct a presidential election entirely by mail. About 80% of registered voters participated.
• 2019 Oregon becomes the first state not to require paid postage on ballot return envelopes

Organizations which supported the initiative included the League of Women Voters of Oregon, the Oregon League of Conservation Voters, AARP of Oregon, and Oregon Education Association. Individuals which supported the measure included then-Governor John Kitzhaber, Oregon Secretary of State Phil Keisling, and former U.S. Senator Mark Hatfield. Supporters of the measure asserted that it would increase voter participation and make elections more convenient for voters. The State of Oregon would also save an estimated $3 million a year, in years which a primary and general election occur.

Notable opposition to the measure included State Representative Lynn Snodgrass and anti-tax activist Bill Sizemore. Opponents claimed the system would invite election fraud as well as the possibility of people pressuring each other in terms of how they vote.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Gotta hit that 2030 deadline and they lost a whole four years with Trump.

And they're scared they're set to lose another four at least.

 

[Sithis]

One of my stoner friends recently posited that he thinks the Dems are acting like villains in a movie who have been told by aliens that they'll blow us up or invade or some shit and they're trying to convert the bulk of the population into a peasant slave class to sell us to the aliens.

The sad thing?
As dumb as that is on its face it still makes more sense than any reason they've given us so far for why they're actively destroying America and the world at large.

 

[Meat Target]

The lengths to which they will go to hold on to power prove how terrified they are of you, Mr. and Mrs. America.

 

[X Prime]

Imagine saying that vote-by-mail isn't suspect when Oregon only turned perma-blue once it was instituted.

Why does this barleyrugburn person always have some boomer-esque takes? It's so boring.

 

[Michael Wade]

One of my stoner friends recently posited that he thinks the Dems are acting like villains in a movie who have been told by aliens that they'll blow us up or invade or some shit and they're trying to convert the bulk of the population into a peasant slave class to sell us to the aliens.

The sad thing?
As dumb as that is on its face it still makes more sense than any reason they've given us so far for why they're actively destroying America and the world at large.

You know.... ive been hearing from some circles that the government has been releasing a lot more UFO shit in an effort to gradually get the population used to the idea that aliens do exist.

Enough to make me wonder if they will pull a watchmen or if there is truth to it.