Tell us more about the Big Veggie Conspiracy.
You want to get redpilled on veggies? Okay.
I started bluepilled, much like yourself. I learned the foods guide pyramid and calories in high school and I learned about IIFYM, manlets and skinny fat from the /misc/.
Life was simple. Eat less calories and exercise more to lose weight. Don't eat red meat or saturated fat. Eat fiber. Probiotics are good for gut health. etc. In hindsight, I can't believe I feel for this bullshit but we didn't use social media to challenge the establishment back then.
Fast forward to Early 2019. There was a huge, "Why I'm no longer vegan." movement. Some videos were getting millions of views. After the rise of social media, Millennials saw vegan and whole food plant-based diets and tried them to improve their health. Some people did notice some improvements at first but eventually many people started to experience serious health problems ranging from bad skin to women losing their periods from malnutrition.
Just like any cult, including transgenderism, you can't allow cult members to leave or else other members will start to doubt the movement. So the vegans responded with their strongest "oh you were never vegan. You were doing it wrong." and most emotionally manipulative "animal cruelty" arguments. I'm surprised this website doesn't cover vegan or carnivore lolcows; It's great content.
1. Some of these vegans even went to the complete opposite, carnivore diets.
1. Some people studied nutrition simply to counter the vegan's plant based rhetoric.
3. There were also big health movements including intermittent fasting and keto during the late 2010s.
So from these communities, I found the truth about nutrition and health.
With regards to plants. Plants are alive just like animals and they don't want to be eaten. If they get eaten, they go extinct. So they develop toxins and anti nutrients to prevent animals from eating them. So chemical warefare is the plant's natural defense mechanism and some commercial pesticides are even derives from plant sources. So the big problem with plants include: lectins, oxalates, phytates, and goitrogens.
The other huge problem is bio availability . The plant based versions of Vitamin A, Omega3s and Iron must be converted by the body to animal forms and that conversion percentage varies.
So veggies aren't healthy and they're actually anti healthy in most, if not all, situations. Fruits are different because plants want you to eat them and grains it depends on whether you have insulin resistance or not. That's the big picture,