Amber Heard v. Johnny Depp Legal Proceedings - "And on my side of the bed was human fecal matter."

Who is the real criminal in this trial?

  • Amber Heard

    Votes: 767 72.0%
  • Johnny Depp

    Votes: 43 4.0%
  • Both

    Votes: 256 24.0%

  • Total voters
    1,066
  • Poll closed .
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This thread is hilarious because you can tell anyone supporting her hasn’t been watching the trial.
Let me gently suggest that a significant portion of Amber's supporters are actually astroturfed. Normally I wouldn't assume this, but - Amber Heard has incredibly expensive PR teams and seems absolutely convinced Johnny is astroturfing his support. Of course part of this is her delusional narcissism and compulsive lying, but another part is very probably projection. We can note that Amber's supporters usually have nothing solid to support her with, just vague statements or insane conclusions that require the exact kind of double-think that Amber constantly uses (that thread in particular says that Johnny had to cut off his his finger because he said to a doctor that he had, yet Amber's testimony requires her to have lied to doctors and other figures about injuries to protect Johnny - if we assume Amber is lying about why she's getting a concussion check, then we can assume that Johnny is lying about what happened to his finger - and unlike Amber, there's audio evidence this is the case with Johnny).
Yeah, that's what really gets me, is Amber's insistence that every single person other than her is lying, from nurses to police officers to psychologists to her own personal assistants. Johnny is famous but he's not famous enough for a conspiracy this huge. At SOME point along the way, someone would have secretly called 911 to get help for Amber, or quit their job, or spoken up publicly, or privately offered Amber help, or intervened. No one is gonna go to medical school for 8 years and then throw it all away just to lie for the guy who plays guitar with Alice Cooper.

If there's even a chance that domestic violence has occurred, it's actually required that an arrest be made. The reason for this is because of a case many years ago where the police did not intervene during an assault and a woman died. In order to not make an arrest a police officer has to be absolutely certain that no violence happened. Victims also have no say in whether charges are filed--it's up to the prosecutor, meaning Johnny could not have simply intimidated Amber out of it. A lot of people with a lot of experience had to be very confident Amber was not abused for things to go down the way that they did. I highly doubt they're also all in on the Johnny Depp Conspiracy.

Granted, these things do still happen police don't always make arrests when they should, etc. But I don't understand how she really thinks she can convince the jury that Johnny Depp has that much power over employees, the police, prosecutors, doctors, etc, when he's just a famous man who makes movies and plays guitar and does way way too many drugs. If anything, all of Amber's photographs of him passing out everywhere have me convinced it would not have been possible for him to orchestrate a conspiracy on that scale. he was too busy being high out of his mind.
Weirdly enough this isn't even exclusive to Amber. I've seen in a different defamation case of a very similar kind where the accusers insist that their target was so powerful that all their overwhelming lack of evidence is wholly because everyone in every walk of life just so idolized this person for their fame that they were willing to cover up all the evidence and all the crimes for years. It's interesting because they're just taking the same accusations that get levied at multi-billionaires and politicians and trying to apply it to everyday life: the president you don't like is always so stupid that they physically drool on their clothes whenever the camera isn't rolling yet simultaneously an evil genius scheming to control everything to their advantage. Mega-billionaires have the kind of cash to pay people to disappear or hide evidence if they want to, and the incredibly influential have the influence to possibly do this too...and so people like Amber want you to believe a person like Johnny has all of that power and influence to control doctors and policemen and random passersby.

I'm not sure if it's a case of delusion, being a bad liar, or actually smart usage of people's preconceived biases - playing on the idea that they might believe some conspiracies, probably thought a president was an incompetent evil genius, or have seen so many movies that they just accept the 'antagonist' has infinite resources and capabilities with which to threaten the protagonist. Regardless of which it is in Amber's case, though, she's so uncharismatic and low-skill about it that the overwhelming reaction to it has been assuming 'bad faith liar'. In truth, Johnny isn't really that famous. Yes, he's beloved by those who know him, but is he Tom Cruise? No. He's wealthy and he's successful, but not as well known as people might think. The jury is likely full of people not that familiar with Johnny specifically because Amber wouldn't want people picking him out of favoritism...which works against her narrative that he's super ultra-famous to the point where the world bends around him.

About the arrests that don't happen, it's usually because of prejudice. They're going to some methy white trash place, or some ghetto and the cops have no interest in being there longer than they need to, the victim themselves is confrontational and possibly violent with the cops, they're not allowed to investigate the place, and it can be hard to tell if the situation or injuries are fresh and related to a crime, or if it's just part of that person's baseline life. That doesn't apply to Amber's situation because they were highclass, quiet but not confrontational, and they allowed the cop to explore the whole place. And even then, they could leave some DV pamphlets and do nothing more when more needed to be done. Amber was so unharmed and the situation so peaceful that the cop saw no reason to do anything.

Amber's real issue is that she wasn't planning to stab Johnny in the back, she was getting bits of insurance to blackmail Johnny into staying with her. Thus, she didn't plan things out properly and she missed a lot of opportunities to gather staged evidence, like collecting some DV paperwork that she could show. The evidence repeatedly reveals her to be a liar because she fabricated the claims against Johnny with so little prep-work and forward thinking that all of the evidence only speaks to the truth. I actually suspect that she didn't take those images she now uses to 'show injuries' (that don't exist). I don't know what she was actually taking them for, mind, but there's literally nothing on those photos and she had to know that taking them. I suspect she was doing something else like a no-makeup challenge or complexion check or something. I say this because she had no problem painting a bruise on her face when it was time to accuse Johnny of hitting her. If she wanted to, she could have painted a bunch of injuries on her face while she had no makeup. She didn't.

Also, I bet Amber is the one who edited that image of hers with the saturation boosted: an expert would have boosted only the red values, and very likely only in certain spots, to make those cheek 'marks' look angry. She just boosted everything, which made her skin noticeably extra yellow.
Is it possible.


That the jury just says Amber commuted her own defamation of character?

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They mutual defamed each other similar to mutual DV and it’s even?
That is not possible. Their claims are mutually exclusive. The only possible way the jury could determine they're both full of it and defaming the other one is if no abuse happened whatsoever, and nobody has claimed that.

I'm not even sure there's anything written in the law to explain such a ruling, either. Since Amber is suing for the outrageous sum of $100m and Johnny is only suing for $50m, awarding both would mean that Johnny has to give Amber $50m. Maybe it's possible they both could receive nothing, but I don't think that's supported by the case so far. They either believe Amber, in which case she wins, or they believe Johnny, in which case he wins. It's unlikely the jury's decision will be anything more nuanced than "although they both committed abuse, ___'s was retaliatory and can be excused, ____ gets the money."
 
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I thought it'd be interesting to compare both of their statements on instagram. They arent allowed tonpost anything new during the trial.

By number of replies you can see which of the two is more obviously astroturfed.

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You know one thing I couldn't figure out, is why defense brought an ex from 15-20 years ago to tesitfy that johnny likes to drink and that he tossed a bottle at her (to be caught).

It did so little for her case and it was so long ago.

But thinking about it more it starts to make sense. Johnny's story is that she threw a bottle at him and severed his finger.

Amber's story is that he assaulted a phone and lost his finger. Amber's sister story is that he lost his finger by assaultinf (with?) a bottle.

Judging from that it is probably likeliest that johnny told the truth. In particular with the apology note she wrote after.

And then suddenly that testimony makes sense. Because if she threw the bottle, then the testimony of depp throwing a bottle becomes a kind of "but you are reckless with bottles too" argument. Just a weak attempt at reversal in a lover's spat.
 
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Someone also called out Turd on claiming she used a bruise kit to cover up Depp's bruises: (This is a good Tik Tok video) Ill archive it in the spoiler)
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Yeah, just like my current avatar, she's so dumb. That makes 2 court cases where she just accidently states the truth and then clearly tries to fix it when she realizes she fucked up and accidently told the truth.

If anything this whole thing proves how fucking dumb men are in the kind of dumb women they fall for.

Or as Dickens said: "It is a melancholy truth that even great men have poor relations".
 
The handwriting in the "love diary," the mirror, and the countertop had striking similarities and I would have liked to see a side-by-side for each. That loopy cursive in the diary juxtaposed with the clunky, inconsistent block lettering (which is consistent in portions of all 3 photos) just screams whackadoodle. If they could get that across, women on the jury would get instant Glenn Close/Fatal Attraction vibes from that shit.
I've gotta say, I do like her handwriting. Mine has always been atrocious, even more so now my hands are fucked.
But yeah, it's definitely her writing on the mirror.
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I thought it'd be interesting to compare both of their statements on instagram. They arent allowed tonpost anything new during the trial.
That didn't stop her gf Eve Barlow from live tweeting and passing notes to AH and her team during the first few days of the trial. Bent bastards.
You know one thing I couldn't figure out, is why defense brought an ex from 15-20 years ago to tesitfy that johnny likes to drink and that he tossed a bottle at her (to be caught).

It did so little for her case and it was so long ago.

But thinking about it more it starts to make sense. Johnny's story is that she threw a bottle at him and severed his finger.

Amber's story is that he assaulted a phone and lost his finger. Amber's sister story is that he lost his finger by assaultinf (with?) a bottle.

Judging from that it is probably likeliest that johnny told the truth. In particular with the apology note she wrote after.

And then suddenly that testimony makes sense. Because if she threw the bottle, then the testimony of depp throwing a bottle becomes a kind of "but you are reckless with bottles too" argument. Just a weak attempt at reversal in a lover's spat.
Yeah, it was weak. She even said that it wasn't thrown to/at her, just tossed in the same direction.

The bottle thing is really simple...she needed a bottle story to counteract his, and stories of women being raped with a bottle makes both sexes cringe and feel shock and empathy for the victim and disgust for the perpetrator. Only if they are an actual victim tho. It's seriously backfired on her because that shock and disgust is now directed at her and the empathy is for him. A DV charity publicly backing him is a big blow as well.

Here's the relevant part of the WB filing from March. I'm surprised that it hasn't been brought up by Depp's team...any idea why that might be? Timing perhaps? They do mention that there's only a week left for discovery.

I'm not surprised that she's not getting any work, she's blackballed herself by trying to sue every cunt 🤦🏻‍♀️
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That didn't stop her gf Eve Barlow from live tweeting and passing notes to AH and her team during the first few days of the trial. Bent bastards.
It's not like Depp's PR team is sitting on their hands either. Obviously despite orders, they'll do what they can get away with.

I'm not surprised that she's not getting any work, she's blackballed herself by trying to sue every cunt 🤦🏻‍♀️
She's also not a very gifted actress, as we can see in her testimony. I'm not watching aquamaaannnn.
 
It's not like Depp's PR team is sitting on their hands either. Obviously despite orders, they'll do what they can get away with.
A PR team doing their job is one thing, passing notes in court like that is waaaay over the line tho. While I'm glad she was banned from the court, there should have been some penalty for her side. Lose some hours or something.
Also, I think it's fucking hilarious that she sacked her PR team mid-trial, then the main guy from her new one is outed as a wrongun within days. Champion of abused women everywhere. Lol
She's also not a very gifted actress, as we can see in her testimony. I'm not watching aquamaaannnn.
You're not wrong there :story:

I pirated it after her agent said it was the biggest film ever made or whatever the fuck it was, and what a fucking snoozefest. Any popularity it has is down to a shirtless Momoa, not her.
 
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Its funny seeing dudes like Quarterpounder and the right defend Depp when during the start of Trumps term he tweet that someone should assassinate Trump. Quarterpounder goes on a bitch fit over AngryJoe hating his MAGA audience but this is okay?
Something I noticed, Depp has been very outspoken regarding wanting to restrict firearms yet during the trial it was mentioned he 1) owns a shit ton of firearms and 2) always has private security.
 
Something I noticed, Depp has been very outspoken regarding wanting to restrict firearms yet during the trial it was mentioned he 1) owns a shit ton of firearms and 2) always has private security.
Depp is part of Hollywood, so he has to recite the rites and mantras to remain in their good books. They're all hypocrites like that.
 
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