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the 4090 comes out in a few months and that's expected to be priced more than all 3 consoles combined. 500 bucks is not a lot compared to the existing ceiling. You're well under 2 grand in hardware when it comes to all 3 machines combined.
The 4090 is a product for GPU-coomers, it can't be used as a metric. The mass market lies in the midrange, the 50s and 60s, then the 70s starts to creep in. The 3090 Ti isn't even on Steams list so it's got an adoption rate of less than 0.15%(that's where the list cuts off).
 
The 4090 is a product for GPU-coomers, it can't be used as a metric. The mass market lies in the midrange, the 50s and 60s, then the 70s starts to creep in. The 3090 Ti isn't even on Steams list so it's got an adoption rate of less than 0.15%(that's where the list cuts off).
That is true that the majority of PC's userbase does tend to skew more towards the low to mid end. The demographics for PC tend to play lesser demanding games, Counter Strike is still up there in the most played PC games. I mean the elden ring upgrade fiasco when it needed a 1000 series card. That's a six year old card which would mean many of the users had not upgraded in around 8-10 years.

But I'm just saying as far as the ceiling goes, new graphics cards have always ran in the thousands. Like if you're looking for how high hardware costs can go, which is way more than any singular console.
 
PC as the superior platform thus far comes with a shitload of asterisks. Games come unoptimized, digital only has proven to have issues, and you have stuff like denuvo. Yes you can theoretically fix everything after hours of fucking with it, but there's also now the multiple storefronts and not all allow the same levels of access when it comes to file editing/modding.

the 4090 comes out in a few months and that's expected to be priced more than all 3 consoles combined. 500 bucks is not a lot compared to the existing ceiling. You're well under 2 grand in hardware when it comes to all 3 machines combined.
You don't need a very high-end graphic card for PC gaming, only retarded console warriors like you think that way. I currently own a Nvidia RTX 2060 and that card can handle anything I could throw at it. Even my GTX 1050 Ti served me pretty well between 2015-2020 and I sure wouldn't mind getting back to a GPU of this size scale (with no power connectors).

And yes PC is objectively the superior platform compared to the PS5.
 
You don't need a very high-end graphic card for PC gaming, only retarded console warriors like you think that way. I currently own a Nvidia RTX 2060 and that card can handle anything I could throw at it. Even my GTX 1050 Ti served me pretty well between 2015-2020 and I sure wouldn't mind getting back to a GPU of this size scale (with no power connectors).

And yes PC is objectively the superior platform compared to the PS5.
I have a few 2060s installed in my machines too, I mean it's fine for some things, but you're really are not getting anything specifically catered towards more on PC since miners have usurped gamers as the main demographic who buys the performance cards. Nvidia got into trouble for faking the numbers and lower the number of crypto users who buy their hardware. They've been largely supported by cryptominers for years at this point and it doesn't really look like that's going to change.

The PC Audience just doesn't show up for many titles that do well on consoles specifically because the demographics are still different. They're going to want stuff that's geared towards always online, you're not really looking at people who by majority favor single player games. So it's like you could have all the optimal hardware in the world, if the software doesn't do well that just further adds to many PC ports still being an afterthought and not a main priority.
 
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Seriously, why would anyone buy a Playstation when they already own the superior platform. This entire thought process makes no sense.
you like the games and their stories so much you're willing to buy a whole new platform for it and then keep buying more games and ps+. the idea is getting people into the "ecosystem" (usually with games which won't make much money anymore on their original platform). and even if you don't pick up a playstation afterwards you might have played the games and talk about it, generating word of mouth.

You don't need a very high-end graphic card for PC gaming, only retarded console warriors like you think that way. I currently own a Nvidia RTX 2060 and that card can handle anything I could throw at it. Even my GTX 1050 Ti served me pretty well between 2015-2020 and I sure wouldn't mind getting back to a GPU of this size scale (with no power connectors).

And yes PC is objectively the superior platform compared to the PS5.
don't forget the options console simply doesn't get, in theory you could play a new AAA game on old hardware - it will look like ass with shit resolution and low fps, but the option is there (besides, if you don't fall for the 4k meme everything from the last 5+ years, it not longer, will do fine with 1080p).
also ignores the fuckhuge amount of games going back decades you can play on older hardware, without having to keep your old console around and hope it (or the controllers) don't implode or sony/ms/nintendo grace you with a remaster just to get the same fucking game going on newer hardware.
 
That is true that the majority of PC's userbase does tend to skew more towards the low to mid end. The demographics for PC tend to play lesser demanding games, Counter Strike is still up there in the most played PC games. I mean the elden ring upgrade fiasco when it needed a 1000 series card. That's a six year old card which would mean many of the users had not upgraded in around 8-10 years.

But I'm just saying as far as the ceiling goes, new graphics cards have always ran in the thousands. Like if you're looking for how high hardware costs can go, which is way more than any singular console.
New consumer graphics card have not always ran in the thousands, that's a very new phenomenon. They also used to sell below MSRP, even IHV offerings, imagine that.
 
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I have a few 2060s installed in my machines too,
It's either one more blatant convenient lie (the usual thing you do after someone calling out your bullshit) or just another proof you're a dumb and rabid consumer with far too much money to burn.

I mean it's fine for some things, but you're really are not getting anything specifically catered towards more on PC since miners have usurped gamers as the main demographic who buys the performance cards. Nvidia got into trouble for faking the numbers and lower the number of crypto users who buy their hardware. They've been largely supported by cryptominers for years at this point and it doesn't really look like that's going to change.
But the PS5 being so hard-to-get and sold at an inflated price isn't somehow an issue at all.
Alternatives also exist on PC such as AMD cards and I wouldn't be surprised if the more recent APU processors have progressed far enough to fully handle the more graphically-demanding games in 1080p (something I used to look forward years ago for the sake of a mini-itx build).

The PC Audience just doesn't show up for many titles that do well on consoles specifically because the demographics are still different. They're going to want stuff that's geared towards always online, you're not really looking at people who by majority favor single player games. So it's like you could have all the optimal hardware in the world, if the software doesn't do well that just further adds to many PC ports still being an afterthought and not a main priority.
Nice coping mechanism faggot. For all your past rantings about the worldwide market mattering more, especially on the topic of japanese games, it's funny how you desperately pretend PC isn't the more successful platform on that criteria. Like there is a reason why the majority of PS console games have been releasing on PC and/or Switch at the same time because Playstation just isn't a guarantee for game sales anymore, either be in Japan and worldwide.

There is the example of non-OG Super Robot Wars being made available in non-asian countries for the first time ever (SRW30) thanks to the Steam storefront being worldwide, thus allowing licensing loopholes that wouldn't have been possible otherwise with the region-locked console storefronts.

don't forget the options console simply doesn't get, in theory you could play a new AAA game on old hardware - it will look like ass with shit resolution and low fps, but the option is there (besides, if you don't fall for the 4k meme everything from the last 5+ years, it not longer, will do fine with 1080p).
Not falling into the meme of ultra graphic settings too.
I remember upgrading to the RTX 2060 mainly for the Total Warhammer games but PC ports of japanese games (EDF5, Ace Combat 7, DaS3, Yakuza Kiwami 2, Vanquish, etc) ran pretty well on my GTX 1050 ti.
 
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PC as the superior platform thus far comes with a shitload of asterisks. Games come unoptimized, digital only has proven to have issues, and you have stuff like denuvo.
Most games come as optimized as possible considering that PC doesn't have set graphical specs. Some games are well optimized like GTA 5, others are more poorly optimized, like Elden Ring. But if you meet the minimum graphical requirements, which aren't that hard to meet today, you can still run the games, even with poor optimization. And if a game performs poorly, usually the fans will release their own patches to help perform better. That is not an option for consoles, which don't allow any form of fan modification. And games can be poorly optimized for consoles as well (see Cyberpunk 2077).

As for the digital only argument:
1) Consoles are also pushing to go digital only
2) You can still buy physical disks for PCs.
3) Steam and GOG generally work fine, and there have been no major issues on either platform other than censorship.

And console games also come with their own DRM. Its just built into the systems. The difference is that on PC, games without DRM are an option.

but there's also now the multiple storefronts and not all allow the same levels of access when it comes to file editing/modding.
Multiple store fronts is a benefit, not a problem, as it means that one company doesn't monopolize everything. Both GOG and Steam allow, and even encourage, modding. The only storefronts that probably wouldn't would be the personal storefronts of individual developers (maybe). Its a moot point because consoles don't allow modding at all.
 
since i have finally gotten a phat Ps2 where do i start with modding heard that hardmodding AKA chipping can cause issues with fmcb and destroy the disc drive while soft modding can be cumbersome any tips also any way to softmod to play burned discs @Stasi you're knowledgeable about this
 
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since i have finally gotten a phat Ps2 where do i start with modding heard that hardmodding AKA chipping can cause issues with fmcb and destroy the disc drive while soft modding can be cumbersome any tips also any way to softmod to play burned discs @Stasi you're knowledgeable about this
You want to install FMCB and MechaPwn if possible. If your console is too old to use MechaPwn you'll have to use ESR to run burned games instead.
If you don't already have a memory card with FMCB you could see if there's a version of FreeDVDBoot that works on your console to install it, or you can try hotswapping discs in a game with multiple executables to boot homebrew, but most people opt to just buy a memory card with FMCB already on it from eBay.
 
others are more poorly optimized, like Elden Ring. But if you meet the minimum graphical requirements, which aren't that hard to meet today, you can still run the games, even with poor optimization.
Even then, the Elden Ring sysreq is for the "High" settings at 60fps which I assume is the equivalent of PS5/XBXBX. What that requires is a graphics card that had an MSRP of $250 more than half a decade ago and often sold for less than that.
 
You want to install FMCB and MechaPwn if possible. If your console is too old to use MechaPwn you'll have to use ESR to run burned games instead.
If you don't already have a memory card with FMCB you could see if there's a version of FreeDVDBoot that works on your console to install it, or you can try hotswapping discs in a game with multiple executables to boot homebrew, but most people opt to just buy a memory card with FMCB already on it from eBay.
Alright i have a memory card and a usb stick its enough right
 
It's either one more blatant convenient lie (the usual thing you do after someone calling out your bullshit) or just another proof you're a dumb and rabid consumer with far too much money to burn.
People don't just buy PCs for games dude. I have this coupled with a Ryzen 9.

Games are not the only applications that take more resources from a computer.

you really need to stop accusing people of lying when you get butthurt
 
I have a few 2060s installed in my machines too
Multiple RTX 2060 GPUs, for his multiple computers that he has, so he can get high quality PC gaming performance in every room of his house, despite trashing PC gaming and preferring PlayStation.

People don't just buy PCs for games dude. I have this coupled with a Ryzen 9.
and also running an incredibly powerful, expensive CPU that's completely wasted on all of his use cases, which don't seem to need anything stronger than a Core i3.

Instead of, like:
  • buying a gaming laptop
  • improving his home network for game streaming
  • buying one of those game controller phone holders for his telephone
  • buying a single RTX 2080 for improved performance and the ability to mine crypto more effectively
 
Alright i have a memory card and a usb stick its enough right
If the memory card already has FMCB on it you're set. If not, you'll have to find another entry point to install it with. Your options depend on what exact PS2 model you have (should be on the sticker) and what DVD Player software version is on it.
Boot your PlayStation 2 without any disc inserted, and press Triangle to identify which DVD Player version your console has.
 
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Multiple RTX 2060 GPUs, for his multiple computers that he has, so he can get high quality PC gaming performance in every room of his house, despite trashing PC gaming and preferring PlayStation.


and also running an incredibly powerful, expensive CPU that's completely wasted on all of his use cases, which don't seem to need anything stronger than a Core i3.

Instead of, like:
  • buying a gaming laptop
  • improving his home network for game streaming
  • buying one of those game controller phone holders for his telephone
  • buying a single RTX 2080 for improved performance and the ability to mine crypto more effectively
I mean they're not really used for gaming in the first place, my retro setups have probably more hours logged into them because I fixed an old mac and wanted to get it to run shit.

Buying a gaming laptop in this day and age doesn't do it for a workhorse, that shit can fuck itself easily once the internal temps begin to crank up when stuff becomes too demanding for it to process. I mean there's some professional programs where there are no ceilings for things like ram and you have people with over 100 gigs on their personal professional machines at this point.
 
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I mean they're not really used for gaming in the first place, my retro setups have probably more hours logged into them because I fixed an old mac and wanted to get it to run shit.

Buying a gaming laptop in this day and age doesn't do it for a workhorse, that shit can fuck itself easily once the internal temps begin to crank up when stuff becomes too demanding for it to process. I mean there's some professional programs where there are no ceilings for things like ram and you have people with over 100 gigs on their personal professional machines at this point.
I can't imagine what kind of situation you're in where it was a better idea to buy multiple 2060s instead of a single 2080, unless you run an internet cafe.
 
I can't imagine what kind of situation you're in where it was a better idea to buy multiple 2060s instead of a single 2080, unless you run an internet cafe.
I didn't really have that much choice at the time, it's what they had in stock for the number I needed and the bulk discount was pretty significant. That and my previous set up began to shit itself and I lost a machine. So rather than dealing with having each machine fail due to general wear and tear I wound up just replacing them all at once since the previous ones were all the same age.
 
I didn't really have that much choice at the time, it's what they had in stock for the number I needed and the bulk discount was pretty significant. That and my previous set up began to shit itself and I lost a machine. So rather than dealing with having each machine fail due to general wear and tear I wound up just replacing them all at once.
Why on Earth do you need a bunch of different computers with modern midrange GPUs, rather than just one very powerful machine that you could set up thin clients around?
 
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