US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Freedom Fighter]

How exactly could a state government deport anybody? I mean, explain the mechanics of how, for example, Florida could load up a bus with migrants, send it to the border, and not have it turned around and sent back by federal authorities.

They can't. Like Texas bussing illegals to Washington or wherever they do it, they can't force the illegals. Florida, or Texas asks them to be bussed to wherever, and they take the volunteers.

 

[mold]

Interesting.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/05/20/seems-pretty-totalitarian-dozens-of-senior-wh-staffers-reportedly-saddled-with-student-loan-debt-1240152/

yes this is exactly what I was talking about a few pages back. The current admin is full of losers because nonlosers don't go into government careers anymore.

section 2 here is relevant

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html

 

[Ita Mori]

Assemblywomen (Greek: Ἐκκλησιάζουσαι Ekklesiazousai; also translated as, Congresswomen, Women in Parliament, Women in Power, and A Parliament of Women) is a comedy written by the Greek playwright Aristophanes in 391 BC. The play invents a scenario where the women of Athens assume control of the government and instate reforms that ban private wealth and enforce sexual equity for the old and unattractive.
Yeah... not exactly new info..

Why did you retards let us out of the kitchen and into the polls ffs...
For every reasonable estrogenite, there's 12 off their rocker.

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

yes this is exactly what I was talking about a few pages back. The current admin is full of losers because nonlosers don't go into government careers anymore.

section 2 here is relevant

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html

The Biden Admin is just Portland on a larger scale.

 

[God of Nothing]

Reminder that Jazz influenced the globe so hard that everything that came afterwards can be traced back to it. Jazz is a purely American invention.

American culture is pervasive everywhere. That is why both Cuba and Japan lost their shit when Biden won via fraud. (it happened, we all know it, just that no one has the balls to prosecute it)

The hippies didn’t kill it, they just made expressing it something to be mocked/excised over, forgetting that an important part of American culture is eventually tearing to shreds oppression of any stripe.

hippies just made themselves and americans look like embarassments

 

[GuntPunt]

PA Update: Yes, there's still more bullshit edition.

McCormick has conceded...that he can no longer win the race through normal means. So he sent a letter to every county in Pennsylvania to count mail in ballots WITH NO DATES. Since he was winning the mail in vote, he hopes it will push him over, by also ensuring that Republicans will never win a statewide race in 100 years because the Democrats will use that to ballot harvest until they win.

McCormick is a faggot who is trying to change laws so he can win, like a Democrat. Fuck him.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Inflict illegal immigrants on the population to own da libs.

Pretty accurate summation of the GOP in 2022.

Going with the flow. If the GOP did stop illegal immigration, Biden and the Dems would just steal the credit. Now they've got a hot potato they can't get rid of.

 

[Ita Mori]

She's not.

She probably is, in the modern sense. I know so many white/brown Christcucks who are devout in their faith yet act in the name of Satan, lying and justifying their actions to themselves so much they eventually believe they're doing the right thing.

They're not good people, but they do pray and "fear" a lot.

 

[JohnDoe]

I like Watchmen but I hate Moore. Him saying that fans of Rorschach are smelly right wingers put a bad taste in my mouth, when the two 'liberal' superheroes are a whore with Daddy issues, and a cuck who can only get it up by wearing a superhero costume. Rorschach might have been crazy, but he was the only one willing to actually do something to make Veidt pay for the mass slaughter of over three million people.

Moore shitting on Rorschach is a lot stranger when you remember he's the only one out of the group that has obvious mental health issues and isn't affluent or set for life. He hates whores and feels weird around women because his mother was an abusive prostitute that brought her work into the house when he was still a boy, yet the reason he stops playing Batman is a man kidnapping a young girl, slicing her up and feeding her to his dogs for no reason at all.

He wrote a sympathetic character with positives and negatives, people sympathized, he turned around and said it was a failure because Rorschach was meant to be his idea of an evil conservative conspiracy theorist. He accidentally wrote the most realistic member of the Watchmen when he meant to write a character with no grey, just black. Nice to know Moore thinks telling the truth about the death of millions is an awful thing to do, because the guy that wants the truth had some bad thoughts about the gays.

I mean concerning Rorschach, some people don't care about the right wing politics; some people just care that child predators never get to do it again.

Like many rootless liberals with no moral center or conscience, Moore is a consequentialist. The ends always justify the means, and they always know the best means for the best outcome so everything they do is completely justified, QED. Moore actually puts this on Veldt in a nuanced and realistic way, but is incapable of seeing the same in himself or recognizing the validity of the opposite position that holds to a constant moral position. Instead of addressing the actual substance of such a position in general, or critiquing the specifically violent individual stance of Rorschach, he chooses to simply discard it out of hand as having any validity. Only the various degrees of the consequentialist attitude from Night Owl, SS, the Comedian, et al are addressed by his direct text and post-publication commentary. He doesn't even consider alternative viewpoints of having the potential of being legitimate, only perversions of his own mutable morality. In Moore's view, it is all about the 'end' and what is determined to be a 'good end' with the justification flowing from it. Veldt wants world peace, which is obviously a good (if nigh-impossible) goal, so the only arguments Moore thinks valid are about the effectiveness of Veldt's methods - which is why Owl and Specter's only complaint is doubt that it might work long term. From Moore's POV, Rorschach has the goal of virtue signaling because he doesn't accept that 'doing what you believe is morally right' is an intrinsic goal, Moore (and his fellow liberals) can only see Rorschach's actions from their own narcissistic perspective where the goal is to build credibility among certain circles (for Rorschach, his 'crazy conservative right wing' pals) and in the balancing part of Moore's mind getting updoots is less important than world peace. It makes complete sense from Moore's POV, which completely ignores any validity of intrinsic morality.

It fits perfectly in line with some of the sociological research from Haidt, who first described six axioms of moral foundation that seem to be fairly consistent across cultures:

• Care/harm: This foundation is related to our long evolution as mammals with attachment systems and an ability to feel (and dislike) the pain of others. It underlies virtues of kindness, gentleness, and nurturance.
• Fairness/cheating: This foundation is related to the evolutionary process of reciprocal altruism. It generates ideas of justice, rights, and autonomy.
• Loyalty/betrayal: This foundation is related to our long history as tribal creatures able to form shifting coalitions. It underlies virtues of patriotism and self-sacrifice for the group. It is active anytime people feel that it’s “one for all, and all for one.”
• Authority/subversion: This foundation was shaped by our long primate history of hierarchical social interactions. It underlies virtues of leadership and followership, including deference to legitimate authority and respect for traditions.
• Sanctity/degradation: This foundation was shaped by the psychology of disgust and contamination. It underlies religious notions of striving to live in an elevated, less carnal, more noble way. It underlies the widespread idea that the body is a temple which can be desecrated by immoral activities and contaminants (an idea not unique to religious traditions).
• Liberty/oppression: This foundation is about the feelings of reactance and resentment people feel toward those who dominate them and restrict their liberty. Its intuitions are often in tension with those of the authority foundation. The hatred of bullies and dominators motivates people to come together, in solidarity, to oppose or take down the oppressor.

Liberals, such as Moore, tend to only consider a narrowed selection of these foundation, as Haidt notes:

The current American culture war, we have found, can be seen as arising from the fact that liberals try to create a morality relying primarily on the Care/harm foundation, with additional support from the Fairness/cheating and Liberty/oppression foundations. Conservatives, especially religious conservatives, use all six foundations, including Loyalty/betrayal, Authority/subversion, and Sanctity/degradation.

Think about the abortion fanatics that celebrate murdering babies during birth - do you think that Sanctity ever enters their minds? No, it never does, they don't consider those other foundations as meaningful. This blinds them completely to other perspectives, they can't even conceptualize having any viewpoint that isn't their own. The concept of another person having a separate perspective is something their brains can't process.

This has been demonstrated through some interesting studies where people were sorted into Liberal, Moderates and Conservative groups. They were given a moral question survey, and asked to complete it three times; once honestly as themselves, then again as if they belonged to the other groups. Moderates and Conservatives were pretty accurate at predicting how the others would answer, but the Liberals were completely off base for both.

As a group they cannot conceive of a "theory of mind" for conservative people. They are unable to even fathom that people can think in ways they do not.

We asked more than two thousand American visitors to fill out the Moral Foundations Qyestionnaire. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out normally, answering as themselves. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as they think a “typical liberal” would respond. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as a “typical conservative” would respond. This design allowed us to examine the stereotypes that each side held about the other. More important, it allowed us to assess how accurate they were by comparing people’s expectations about “typical” partisans to the actual responses from partisans on the left and the right)’ Who was best able to pretend to be the other?

The results were clear and consistent. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal.” The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the Care and Fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with questions such as “One of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal” or ”Justice is the most important requirement for a society,” liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree. If you have a moral matrix built primarily on intuitions about care and fairness (as equality), and you listen to the Reagan [i.e., conservative] narrative, what else could you think? Reagan seems completely unconcerned about the welfare of drug addicts, poor people, and gay people. He’s more interested in fighting wars and telling people how to run their sex lives.

If you don’t see that Reagan is pursuing positive values of Loyalty, Authority, and Sanctity, you almost have to conclude that Republicans see no positive value in Care and Fairness. You might even go as far as Michael Feingold, a theater critic for the liberal newspaper the Village Voice, when he wrote:

Republicans don’t believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don’t give a hoot about human beings, either can’t or won’t. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.

One of the many ironies in this quotation is that it shows the inability of a theater critic-who skillfully enters fantastical imaginary worlds for a living-to imagine that Republicans act within a moral matrix that differs from his own. Morality binds and blinds.

 

[CrippleThreat]

PA Update: Yes, there's still more bullshit edition.

McCormick has conceded...that he can no longer win the race through normal means. So he sent a letter to every county in Pennsylvania to count mail in ballots WITH NO DATES. Since he was winning the mail in vote, he hopes it will push him over, by also ensuring that Republicans will never win a statewide race in 100 years because the Democrats will use that to ballot harvest until they win.

McCormick is a faggot who is trying to change laws so he can win, like a Democrat. Fuck him.

He's wasting Oz's campaign time and war chest (if the doc is forced into dishing out lolsuits). This Establishment hack is so salty, he's willing to throw the election to the Democrats by giving himself and his party a disadvantage.

Also, we're on Day 5 in PA, JFC.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Also, we're on Day 5 in PA, JFC.

 

[The Ugly One]

They can't. Like Texas bussing illegals to Washington or wherever they do it, they can't force the illegals. Florida, or Texas asks them to be bussed to wherever, and they take the volunteers.

I know, but the question was directed at somebody butthurt about Florida sending illegals to rich, blue areas instead of deporting them. The alt-right has spent years being mad about things like
"Why doesn't the President just allocate spending for this?"
"Why doesn't the President fire low-level bureaucrats?"
"The President just have Congress pass a law to..."

and now

"The state governments should deport illegals."

Okay. So. How?

 

[JohnDoe]

I know, but the question was directed at somebody butthurt about Florida sending illegals to rich, blue areas instead of deporting them. The alt-right has spent years being mad about things like
"Why doesn't the President just allocate spending for this?"
"Why doesn't the President fire low-level bureaucrats?"
"The President just have Congress pass a law to..."

and now

"The state governments should deport illegals."

Okay. So. How?

Well there are plenty of gators in the everglades......

 

[MirrorNoir]

George W. Bush has a magical way with words, I always found it funny when I first observed that Bushism meant something completely different from Trumpism. Its as if the media treated one man as a joke and the other as a threat to their power.

Bush was treated as both a joke AND a threat by the left. And indeed, him being a joke (with Bushisms) was plan A for the left to destroy him until 9-11 happened and Bush got god-tier stat boosts that made him unstoppable; at which point he became a huge threat.

Thing is the vote blue no matter who crowd will only stay that way as long as bread and circuses continues. Put them in real shit and punch them with reality and watch what happens. Especially when theres no longer anywhere else to run and go.

And Biden is showing he may fuck up keeping the bread and circuses going. Thats the real reason the elites need him gone.


"You will own nothing and be happy" only works when they can push out the medication to make you happy. Most of the population owns nothing anyways, and thats who they are targetting to carry their agenda through but the failure to deliver on being able to numb those people is fatal right now to the plan.

At this point, for the elites, removing Bread and Circus for maximum suffering for normies is a feature not a bug for the left. They have so much money and resources that they can afford to get woke/go broke a thousand times over and never feel pain. Hell, I would not be shocked if a new Twitter is already in the works ala how Reddit sprung up overnight to kill Digg when Digg fell to the conservatives. Same with Netflix, which is dying and is a good thing since Netflix was it's own company whereas all of the other streaming sites are studio run save for Amazon.

They WANT to make the masses suffer and give them zero reprieve from their suffering via Circus. Because they get off on it, since the normies have elevated the entertainment wing of the elites to demi-God status over the decades and now they want to be cruel evil devils to the masses because they can and because they hate normies.

They are going to turn replacement theory into the next right wing boogyman like Qanon was, aren't they?

It's been that for a while; they just are shilling it hard now because they think they can use it to get rid of that troublesome pundit Tucker Carlson.

 

[Thomas Talus]

I like Watchmen but I hate Moore. Him saying that fans of Rorschach are smelly right wingers put a bad taste in my mouth, when the two 'liberal' superheroes are a whore with Daddy issues, and a cuck who can only get it up by wearing a superhero costume. Rorschach might have been crazy, but he was the only one willing to actually do something to make Veidt pay for the mass slaughter of over three million people.

When I read Watchmen, one of the things that stood out to me was how much more human Rorschach felt compared to everyone else.

 

[wopirish]

Its not, that stunt with the sparrows lead to 36 million deaths from famine. The results will be the same...

They really do appear to be screwing with absolutely everything they can. That cant last something is going explode/collapse. The next 6 months will tell.

The chinese killing all the sparrows didn't harm just china. But every nearby country aswell. The same sparrows that would eat the bugs in korea, india, pakistan etc were all fucked over by the chinese doing chinese things.

 

[Blacklight]

When I read Watchmen, one of the things that stood out to me was how much more human Rorschach felt compared to everyone else.

Because he's flawed in ways we can understand. Same with The Comedian. SS is weird because who among us has to deal with being a fuck doll for the state government's war machine? Nite Owl like I said before is a dude with such high insecurity issues he can't even get it up unless he gets to beat up criminals.

Rorschach however isn't just playing pretend like the other heroes, same as The Comedian. Both of them were more than willing to kill scumbags. Neither of them are good people, but they are such a damn sight better than Manhattan, Veidt, Owl or SS since they are both willing to kill to keep in line with their morals, but don't try to rationalize the evils they do away like Veidt does in the final chapter.

Look at how Veidt is practically BEGGING Dr.Manhattan to give him validation for the three million people he just killed before he zoops off to turn Rorschach into a pile of glowing ash. You know Rorschach would never beg to get some sort of validation for the kid rapists or serial abusers he kills.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

Bush was treated as both a joke AND a threat by the left. And indeed, him being a joke (with Bushisms) was plan A for the left to destroy him until 9-11 happened and Bush got god-tier stat boosts that made him unstoppable; at which point he became a huge threat.

Even after that the left tried to play it both ways. He was simultaneously a bumbling, unintelligent fool, but also a conniving schemer threatening to plunge the US into a militaristic theocracy. Sometimes they'd try to bridge the two by claiming that Bush was just a puppet who wasn't really in charge, and it was really Cheney and the PNAC faction pulling the strings. I know all this because my parents subjected me to way too much Air America during those years...

 

[Confused Doggo]

You know what? Fuck the environment, I hope an entire forest burns down just so these faggots squirm.

They already have that. It's California's forest fires.

Meanwhile, I, a black person who actually does have to pay for his rent/food/utilities, etc., hate Creepy Joe with a fiery passion, and pray that he goes to the lowest circle of Hell when he dies.

I mean, the ninth circle IS the circle for Treachery, so that stands.

 

[Ow The Edge]

I know, but the question was directed at somebody butthurt about Florida sending illegals to rich, blue areas instead of deporting them. The alt-right has spent years being mad about things like
"Why doesn't the President just allocate spending for this?"
"Why doesn't the President fire low-level bureaucrats?"
"The President just have Congress pass a law to..."

and now

"The state governments should deport illegals."

Okay. So. How?

Do the same thing leftist governments do and ignore the feds attempting to enforce their ideas of immigration policy.