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Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread
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Marley Rathbone
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Literally Diogenes was a pod dweller and probably did eat bugs.
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Slutsky refuted his words about the exchange of Medvedchuk for the Azovites: "Do not cling to polite formulations and do not sensationalize from scratch. My opinion has not changed: there should be no exchange of fighters of the Azov banned in the Russian Federation, their fate should be decided by the tribunal. And here I absolutely agree with Denis Vladimirovich Pushilin."
Either he does not know how to make speeches, or they checked the reaction of the population, but there will be no exchange.
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He lived in a giant ceramic pot but eating bugs was more common back them. Poor ppl would eat Locusts. He was more bugman than any of us could ever aspire to.
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He was a original NEET and honest cynic, whose cynicism modern cynical edgelords could only dream of.
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Ironic, given that Angry Birds was created in Finland.
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The situation in the Donbas has quickly deteriorated for the UAF after the loss of Popasna. In my opinion, in 10 years, losing that city will be viewed as the catalyst for what's going to happen next. I still really doubt it was a smart idea to abandon it instead of feeding in troops and supplies as they had been doing for months at this point.
And what's going to happen next? Well, cauldrons will be formed. Not a giant cauldron, mind you, but two distinct ones: one for the troops in Lysychansk, Severodonetsk and surroundings, and one for everyone caught between those places and Popasna. For now, the Russians are focusing on destroying bridges out of these cities, but one thing that went mostly unnoticed was that they now have artillery control over one the most important roads in the region; the T-13-02 highway, the only point that the Ukrainian troops could have possibly used to retreat from the Donbas in any sort of timely or organized manner, because, as we all know, trying to retreat through dirt roads and village streets is hard for a variety of reasons.
In my opinion, a lot of these troops will be heading to Siversk, in an attempt to link up with the Russian forces coming from Yampol and attempting to force a crossing through the Siversky Donets (probably where the Russians are losing the most troops right now) and essentially cutting off the UAF troops in the Donbas from any sort of reinforcement or resupply, trapping them all into a large cauldron (formed through Siversk) and a small cauldron (consisting of Lysychansk, Severodonets and Novodruzhesk).
Now, I previously doubted the UAF's intent to retreat from Severodonetsk with little fight, but with the recent bridge sabotage going on in Lysychansk, I really can't guess at what else they're intending to do, because the situation in Lysychansk isn't going to be any better. Why? Because shortly before losing Popasna, they'd also lost Nyznie and Orikhove, which allowed the Russians to surround reach Zolote from the Northeast, and if/when Komyshuvakha falls, it will be surrounded, along with Hirske and in conjunction with this, the Russians are conducting an advance from Toshkivka, with the apparent intent of reaching Lysychansk, thus surrounding it (and starting the smaller cauldron).
I really can't imagine where the Ukrainians are intending to do to prevent this, but if I were them I would have held at Kramatorsk/Sloviansk, which are probably the better fortified areas still left. I just don't know if it's feasible for the UA troops in the Donbas to retreat and reach it anymore.
Anyway, in all other fronts, very little change, including in the fighting for Novhorodske, which hasn't left the outskirts of the city yet as far as I know. Fighting is heavy in Novobakhmutivka, and the city is half-surrounded by now. In Adviivka heavy clashes are the new normal as well. No change in Mari'inka or the Zaporizhia line, or in the Kherson front.
In Kharkiv some new developments as the Russians claim to have gone on counter-offensives in Ternova, half surrounding it, and in Rubizhne, where there apparently is heavy fighting. No confirmation though. The Russians claim this offensive was made possible only because their artillery had heavily softened the UAF present in the area. There are also reported clashes near Lyptsy and near Kozacha Lopan somewhat, where the Russians refuse to retreat and hold their ground. In Izyum, there's heavy fighting for Velyka Komyshuvaka, which has been going on for a while now with lulls.
Disclaimer: Armchair general.
And what's going to happen next? Well, cauldrons will be formed. Not a giant cauldron, mind you, but two distinct ones: one for the troops in Lysychansk, Severodonetsk and surroundings, and one for everyone caught between those places and Popasna. For now, the Russians are focusing on destroying bridges out of these cities, but one thing that went mostly unnoticed was that they now have artillery control over one the most important roads in the region; the T-13-02 highway, the only point that the Ukrainian troops could have possibly used to retreat from the Donbas in any sort of timely or organized manner, because, as we all know, trying to retreat through dirt roads and village streets is hard for a variety of reasons.
In my opinion, a lot of these troops will be heading to Siversk, in an attempt to link up with the Russian forces coming from Yampol and attempting to force a crossing through the Siversky Donets (probably where the Russians are losing the most troops right now) and essentially cutting off the UAF troops in the Donbas from any sort of reinforcement or resupply, trapping them all into a large cauldron (formed through Siversk) and a small cauldron (consisting of Lysychansk, Severodonets and Novodruzhesk).
Now, I previously doubted the UAF's intent to retreat from Severodonetsk with little fight, but with the recent bridge sabotage going on in Lysychansk, I really can't guess at what else they're intending to do, because the situation in Lysychansk isn't going to be any better. Why? Because shortly before losing Popasna, they'd also lost Nyznie and Orikhove, which allowed the Russians to surround reach Zolote from the Northeast, and if/when Komyshuvakha falls, it will be surrounded, along with Hirske and in conjunction with this, the Russians are conducting an advance from Toshkivka, with the apparent intent of reaching Lysychansk, thus surrounding it (and starting the smaller cauldron).
I really can't imagine where the Ukrainians are intending to do to prevent this, but if I were them I would have held at Kramatorsk/Sloviansk, which are probably the better fortified areas still left. I just don't know if it's feasible for the UA troops in the Donbas to retreat and reach it anymore.
Anyway, in all other fronts, very little change, including in the fighting for Novhorodske, which hasn't left the outskirts of the city yet as far as I know. Fighting is heavy in Novobakhmutivka, and the city is half-surrounded by now. In Adviivka heavy clashes are the new normal as well. No change in Mari'inka or the Zaporizhia line, or in the Kherson front.
In Kharkiv some new developments as the Russians claim to have gone on counter-offensives in Ternova, half surrounding it, and in Rubizhne, where there apparently is heavy fighting. No confirmation though. The Russians claim this offensive was made possible only because their artillery had heavily softened the UAF present in the area. There are also reported clashes near Lyptsy and near Kozacha Lopan somewhat, where the Russians refuse to retreat and hold their ground. In Izyum, there's heavy fighting for Velyka Komyshuvaka, which has been going on for a while now with lulls.
Disclaimer: Armchair general.
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Ukraine claims another pontoon crossing got hit, near Serebryanka. Very few damaged/abandoned vehicles unlike the previous one.
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Donbas is literal ass cancer to attack from the Northwest. You don't even get a choice, you HAVE to cross the Siversky Donets somewhere. You only get to pick where. Now, as far as I know they've crossed it near Dronivka already, but this just isn't enough. They'll keep trying to force their way through but it's going to be a while before the UAF's artillery and spotting capabilities are degraded enough that they can do it with major success, unless something really goes wrong in the Ukrainian side or the Russians get lucky. The offensive isn't going to be nearly as effective if they don't cross it through multiple points, possibly 3 at least.
A crossing near Bilohorivka especially would be really good to have, but I don't think that's in the cards anymore after they failed so hard the last time. Whatever Russian commander kept banging his head against that particular crossing is probably out of a job or at least been severely reprimanded by now, if the response that the failure got is anything to go by.
Next few weeks may decide the war and will be very interesting.
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Taken from the Russian telegram
Lisichansk-Severodonetsk direction, southern flank:
The clearing of the Popasnaya has been completed, the enemy positions located north and west of the settlement are being processed by fire.
To the east of Popasnaya on the west bank of the Seversky Donets River, units of the Allied forces occupied the locality of Nizhny and adjacent heights, there are battles for the locality of Toshkovka. Establishing control over Toshkovka will allow access to the Lisichansk-Gorskoye road and to the southern outskirts of Lisichansk.
If at the same time there is a blow from Popasnaya to the south, then this will lead to the encirclement of the AFU garrison in the locality of Gorskoye-Zolotoye and block the road to Lisichansk from the south.
Lisichansk-Severodonetsk direction, northern flank:
The Allied troops crossed the Seversky Donets River and entered the settlement of Belogorovka. Fierce fighting took place in the settlement throughout the day, the AFU managed to partially disable the crossing.
There are intense battles and artillery duels along the banks of the Donets River along the entire length of the Kremenets Forests National Park in the localities of Shipilovo, Privolye, Serebryanka.
If the Allied forces manage to completely take Belogorovka, develop an offensive to the south and occupy the Lisichansk refinery, the AFU grouping in the triangle numbering about 8000 people will be in an operational environment.
Severodonetsk-Rubezhnoye:
The enemy was forced out of the territory of the Zarya powder factory in Rubezhnoye.
Fighting continued in the forests adjacent to Severodonetsk.
Liman direction:
Fighting began for control of the settlement of Novoselovka, west of Drobyshevo.
Fighting for the Estuary is complicated by severe forest fires
The Izyum direction:
To the east of Chepel, fighting continues in the forest. The sides are engaged in artillery duels. The Great Kamyshevakha was taken.
19:20 Не іронічна Zрада
Lisichansk-Severodonetsk direction, southern flank:The clearing of the Popasnaya has been completed, the enemy positions located north and west of the settlement are being processed by fire.
To the east of Popasnaya on the west bank of the Seversky Donets River, units of the Allied forces occupied the locality of Nizhny and adjacent heights, there are battles for the locality of Toshkovka. Establishing control over Toshkovka will allow access to the Lisichansk-Gorskoye road and to the southern outskirts of Lisichansk.
If at the same time there is a blow from Popasnaya to the south, then this will lead to the encirclement of the AFU garrison in the locality of Gorskoye-Zolotoye and block the road to Lisichansk from the south.
Lisichansk-Severodonetsk direction, northern flank:The Allied troops crossed the Seversky Donets River and entered the settlement of Belogorovka. Fierce fighting took place in the settlement throughout the day, the AFU managed to partially disable the crossing.
There are intense battles and artillery duels along the banks of the Donets River along the entire length of the Kremenets Forests National Park in the localities of Shipilovo, Privolye, Serebryanka.
If the Allied forces manage to completely take Belogorovka, develop an offensive to the south and occupy the Lisichansk refinery, the AFU grouping in the triangle numbering about 8000 people will be in an operational environment.
Severodonetsk-Rubezhnoye:The enemy was forced out of the territory of the Zarya powder factory in Rubezhnoye.
Fighting continued in the forests adjacent to Severodonetsk.
Liman direction:Fighting began for control of the settlement of Novoselovka, west of Drobyshevo.
Fighting for the Estuary is complicated by severe forest fires
The Izyum direction:To the east of Chepel, fighting continues in the forest. The sides are engaged in artillery duels. The Great Kamyshevakha was taken.
19:20 Не іронічна Zрада
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With all this shit from both Russian state media and Vatniks about how "This is just the beginning!" I'm slowly starting to actively want Russia to be retarded enough to attack something like Poland or the Baltics. Their dozen SU-57s and Wunderwaffe SARMATs won't change anything.
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Just a nigger. It has not enough brainpower to glow.
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Wikipedia can’t even report GDP accurately. What a joke!
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Azovites did get to have some relaxing days deep in the catacombs.
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There ought to be a good in-between of opinions on this war instead of "Russia is the strongest nation on earth and is going to purge all of NATO" and "Russia is the weakest nation on earth and would lose to Somalian pirates", though more people espouse the latter for some reason.
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How about - the Russian army is the second most powerful army in the world, which has problems with a lightning victory over a weaker Ukraine, which, however, is supported by the EU and the US financially and with weapons.
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