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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Kid. The true monsters and freaks are less likely to say this childish stuff like "operated gas chambers without remorse".

True monsters and freaks are shy timid teacher types, like Himmler, who fainted when he witnessed a mass grave.

Speak more softly, less you want an actual monster to hear you.


You would be suprised what bunch of washed up cops could do, in same way one doesnt have to be on Himmler level to make a mark on the world, some dont make mark by building but by tearing something built down. and besides, if Kids are so bitter now how hateful do you think they will be grownup ? its not getting better its gonna get worse. When you deny people their dawn then it might be much closer than just five minutes to midnight.
 
Cringe and autistpilled.
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made me lol thx!
 
It's not just willy nilly though, changing word order can be used to emphasize things differently or to create certain rythyms or effects. It's like saying why draw an original picture when you can just use a coloring book.

Anyway, the way the rest of slavic grammar works makes it easier to pick of the context so articles are superfluous. And also gay and I would not have sex with them.
Based on my Grandmother (Polish) i've long been convinced that there is no such thing as Slavic Grammar. It's a centuries long epic troll they pull on the rest of. Kind of like the English do by trying to convince us Welsh is a real thing.
 
Kind of like the English do by trying to convince us Welsh is a real thing.
As an Englishman I can assure you we do not think Welsh is a real thing either. Literally the only people who do are a tiny minority of retarded Welsh nationalists who still try to maintain that Wales is an actual country, despite spending most of it's existence as nothing more than a County with delusions of grandeur.
 
So why are you on the side of Russia then?
The biggest failure nation in Europe.
I believe your post sums up the problem here; acknowledging Russia is going to eventually prevail in this conflict does not equate to aligning with with the victor; all the suffering and starvation that is imminent in the rest of the world is pointless.
 

Hey, what does it mean when America's biggest trading partner says it's no longer safe for them to hold assets in America? We winning yet, America bros?
"Haha, we are forcing our people to sell assets at below market and buy western goods and services at above because of our governments policy of keeping the renmimbi weak against the dollar to prop up our export economy. Owned."
 

Hey, what does it mean when America's biggest trading partner says it's no longer safe for them to hold assets in America? We winning yet, America bros?
I think DC are relaxed about the Chicoms. They import over 85% of their food, 67.3% of their crude oil, among other things. Leaving aside that Republic of China-Taiwan has been preparing for 70 years for any invasion Red China has a shockingly limited naval capability (basically at the level of trying to bully the Philippines, PRC would just have to order troops to try land with fishing boats and similar), plus the likelihood that any local US navy patrol would handle them, PRC with the Russian levels of sanctions would be the famine to end all famines, with several hundred million deaths. China has experience of huge famines, but the famine following a war on RoC would probably bring down the world temperature by several degrees. Russia does not depend on anyone for energy or food, unlike Communist ruled mainland China. That war will end when they run out of men or matériel and the will to fight. This recent Russian invasion of Ukraine should alert those fooled by the propaganda of Third Worlders, plus all those scholars who overestimate Russia, that propaganda is just propaganda. The Chinese Communist leadership, President Xi and his politburo (unlike Russia, still has officials with responsibility and authority. If Xi had a Putin style meltdown, Xi would be replaced). PRC is happy with buying discounted Russian gas and selling Baofeng radios and other subpar items (bad copies of copies, say the SU-33 or T-80 or T-72, one kept crashing and only 50 of the second, no end of the third if scavenged parts from rust buckets in tank parks aren't enough) at a premium. Otherwise they mainly want to trade, be respected and solve their demographic issues which have resulted in escalating labor costs. Putin did inform XI of the invasion before it happened, and like a cuck delayed it until the Beijing Winter Olympics were finished. The swift collective action of the world community should provide sufficient warning that an invasion of Taiwan would have a very bad outcome for mainland China.
 
I drink the best vodka on Earth, so I savor it after a day of owning Ukiebros, which is daily now, so probably I do drink too much these days. Women love winners, not losers. Don't be a loser.

pray tell us what best vodka is. If you can't provide any meaning to the thread, at least entertain people with your culinary prowess.
 
Please explain. I an genuinely curious to hear what you base that on.
There's a whole thread full of information about that right here, but the tl;dr is that every apparent gain made by Russia has been at extreme cost in terms of both men and materiel. These are losses that they can't afford to absorb, given the size of Russia's fighting-age population and the amount and quality of equipment they have available, and the age of that equipment. The gains they made in the initial days of the war have been almost entirely lost; they went from believing they'd have victory in a week, with a decapitation strike into Kiev, to claiming that was a feint when the army bogged down north of the city, to just not even mentioning it.

They've lost multiple ships to a country that has no navy, scores of MBTs in botched operations and have been routed on multiple fronts. It's taken them a month to clear out a single point of resistance, despite declaring victory multiple times.

Were Ukraine fighting using only its own equipment, I'd predict an outcome similar to the Winter War, with Russia pushed back to near its original positions but able to force a peace treaty that favoured itself; a land bridge to Crimea and the east of Ukraine absorbed into the Russian federation, and Ukraine itself "Finlandised" and transformed into a neutral buffer state. Thing is, Ukraine isn't fighting using only its own equipment, but has been reinforced by multiple western nations who are eager to ensure that Russia doesn't start nibbling at their own borders in future. Just getting enough spares to maintain and repair their existing equipment is the sort of force multiplier that can turn a close victory into a complete loss.

And then there's the issue of population. Russia's fighting age population is tiny. The country's population growth has been flat for decades (only really propped up by mass immigration from the east), and was contracting significantly as of two years ago. Russia simply cannot afford to absorb the huge losses it has taken in this war. They don't have enough people to support the sort of tactics that the Russian army traditionally employs, of sending wave of wave of men until the enemy gives up in sheer horror, and they don't have the industrial base to maintain and equip their armed forces. The forces they do have are shattered, poorly supplied, and have lost much of their effective command structure.

This isn't the Soviet Union. It's not even the Russia that crushed Grozny. Russia today is a dying nation and its armed forces reflect that state.
 

Hey, what does it mean when America's biggest trading partner says it's no longer safe for them to hold assets in America? We winning yet, America bros?
chinks been cracking down on foreign dependence for a while now. chink universities backing out of global ranking agencies, chink civilians being denied exit visas when trying to go abroad for studying or on business trips, sometimes people get their entire passports confiscated and destroyed, and they have some moratorium on the issuing of new ones so once that happens you basically can't leave the country at all anymore. it's all been going on for a few years, but they started really kicking things into overdrive during the early 2022 covid lockdowns, overall it looks like they're pursuing a policy of slow deglobalisation of their own

pray tell us what best vodka is. If you can't provide any meaning to the thread, at least entertain people with your culinary prowess.
any vodka is best vodka
cause lets be real, its just filtered and purified grain alcohol, manufacturer doesnt really make a difference with this stuff
 
"I wish we could sell them another hill at that price" - Nathaniel Greene after the Battle of Bunker Hill

If Russia keeps "winning" like this they are going to "win" themselves right out of this war.
That's not a serious answer.
There's a whole thread full of information about that right here, but the tl;dr is that every apparent gain made by Russia has been at extreme cost in terms of both men and materiel. These are losses that they can't afford to absorb, given the size of Russia's fighting-age population and the amount and quality of equipment they have available, and the age of that equipment. The gains they made in the initial days of the war have been almost entirely lost; they went from believing they'd have victory in a week, with a decapitation strike into Kiev, to claiming that was a feint when the army bogged down north of the city, to just not even mentioning it.

They've lost multiple ships to a country that has no navy, scores of MBTs in botched operations and have been routed on multiple fronts. It's taken them a month to clear out a single point of resistance, despite declaring victory multiple times.

Were Ukraine fighting using only its own equipment, I'd predict an outcome similar to the Winter War, with Russia pushed back to near its original positions but able to force a peace treaty that favoured itself; a land bridge to Crimea and the east of Ukraine absorbed into the Russian federation, and Ukraine itself "Finlandised" and transformed into a neutral buffer state. Thing is, Ukraine isn't fighting using only its own equipment, but has been reinforced by multiple western nations who are eager to ensure that Russia doesn't start nibbling at their own borders in future. Just getting enough spares to maintain and repair their existing equipment is the sort of force multiplier that can turn a close victory into a complete loss.

And then there's the issue of population. Russia's fighting age population is tiny. The country's population growth has been flat for decades (only really propped up by mass immigration from the east), and was contracting significantly as of two years ago. Russia simply cannot afford to absorb the huge losses it has taken in this war. They don't have enough people to support the sort of tactics that the Russian army traditionally employs, of sending wave of wave of men until the enemy gives up in sheer horror, and they don't have the industrial base to maintain and equip their armed forces. The forces they do have are shattered, poorly supplied, and have lost much of their effective command structure.

This isn't the Soviet Union. It's not even the Russia that crushed Grozny. Russia today is a dying nation and its armed forces reflect that state.
I disagree but I thank you for providing a reasoned and coherent answer to my question.
 
I think DC are relaxed about the Chicoms. They import over 85% of their food, 67.3% of their crude oil, among other things. Leaving aside that Republic of China-Taiwan has been preparing for 70 years for any invasion Red China has a shockingly limited naval capability (basically at the level of trying to bully the Philippines, PRC would just have to order troops to try land with fishing boats and similar), plus the likelihood that any local US navy patrol would handle them, PRC with the Russian levels of sanctions would be the famine to end all famines, with several hundred million deaths. China has experience of huge famines, but the famine following a war on RoC would probably bring down the world temperature by several degrees. Russia does not depend on anyone for energy or food, unlike Communist ruled mainland China. That war will end when they run out of men or matériel and the will to fight. This recent Russian invasion of Ukraine should alert those fooled by the propaganda of Third Worlders, plus all those scholars who overestimate Russia, that propaganda is just propaganda. The Chinese Communist leadership, President Xi and his politburo (unlike Russia, still has officials with responsibility and authority. If Xi had a Putin style meltdown, Xi would be replaced). PRC is happy with buying discounted Russian gas and selling Baofeng radios and other subpar items (bad copies of copies, say the SU-33 or T-80 or T-72, one kept crashing and only 50 of the second, no end of the third if scavenged parts from rust buckets in tank parks aren't enough) at a premium. Otherwise they mainly want to trade, be respected and solve their demographic issues which have resulted in escalating labor costs. Putin did inform XI of the invasion before it happened, and like a cuck delayed it until the Beijing Winter Olympics were finished. The swift collective action of the world community should provide sufficient warning that an invasion of Taiwan would have a very bad outcome for mainland China.
DC are relaxed about the Chicoms because half of them are owned by the Chicoms. This is not even about Taiwan, not yet at least. This is about China clearly indicating that they're starting to pivot away from being reliant on the US, as the US is no longer a safe place to do business in.

"Haha, we are forcing our people to sell assets at below market and buy western goods and services at above because of our governments policy of keeping the renmimbi weak against the dollar to prop up our export economy. Owned."
I'd say the takeaway from that is that the US is becoming increasingly isolated from the global economy. As for western goods, well, how many of those western goods are still actually made in the west, now that the west has been cut off from cheap energy and other resources? That famed German industry is now all but dead, thanks to a lack of cheap Russian energy to fuel it.
 
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