Crime Gunman at a Texas elementary school kills 19 students and two adults before being fatally shot, officials say - yeehaw

(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting/index.html

 

[american_amadan]

So if we are looking for some sort of long term solution, there aren't any. Gun control won't work, because for one thing the goal of gun control isn't to prevent school shootings. It's to disarm the populace so they are easier to control. School shooting and murder sprees will still happen, laws or no laws. The issue driving this is a rising tide of nihilism in our society and there are no easy fixes for that.

Short term solution? Have a pair of parents with their rifles on duty every day. Would make it hard to shoot up the school then, especially since the parents would be pretty motivated to fight back. That would actually accomplish something. Which is why it will never be implemented.

The only thing I can think of short term is to begin to pass sentencing legislation that makes any improper use of a firearm (especially assault rifle like weapons) a serious level felony with mandatory minimum prison terms. You are not going to get in trouble if you're responsible with your gun, but if there's anything less than responsible you should expect to go away. Guns are so commonplace in America that we have seemingly desensitized to their effects. I don't want to overturn the 2A, but I also want to punish morons that ruin guns for everyone else because they're irresponsible or dangerous.

 

[CarlosDanger]

I don't understand, unless you're saying that black market guns would be so prevelant in the US that it wouldn't matter if they were officially restricted. How does sandy hook, el paso, virginia tech, etc. happen when the perpetrators can't easily access guns? I think Australia would have definitely had a serious mass shooting in the last 25 years or so if people could still easily buy semi auto guns.

Between 65-85% of mass shootings are done with stolen or illegally obtained firearms. The cities of Baltimore and Pittsburgh did a study on it a decade ago. You have upwards of 400 million guns in the US, you think you are going to somehow get rid of those? You are going to take all these millions of guns owned by law abiding citizens and then do what with all the gangbangers and criminals that have them? It is beyond unrealistic to think you are going to just disarm gun owners, who don't do these shootings to begin with.

 

[zionlion1488]

Blaming mental health is a big cope much like just blaming guns or racial politics or some single issue. It would be so easy if we could give kids prozac so they wouldn't shoot up schools. WWII vets didn't shoot up schools, Vietnam vets didn't shoot up schools. Gun laws used to be much more lax and you could get automatic weapons. Racism used to be much much worse. These shootings are modern phenomena with extremely deep explanations for why they happen that nobody in the media or political class wants to confront because they would have to talk about things like class, healthcare access, poverty, nihilism and the directionless disturbed nature of the young in the post-national globo hellstate economy that has been built.

Mental health is directly related to all of this shit. The modern world is designed to fuck with our brains. The way our brains receive dopamine is very different than any time in human history. We've all heard of the concept of "instant gratification" and how bad it can be. That's the modern world in a nutshell: a bunch of dopamine junkies with fucked up brains. We're all being poisoned one way or another. Sane people who care wouldn't suggest pumping us all full of antidepressants, but maybe figure out a way to help people cope. We're all addicted to some sort of dopamine release, and it messes up our brains. Those of us who are more well adjusted (I consider the majority of us in that camp, considering we're not going around shooting up niggers or children) have figured out how to function, but obviously a lot of people haven't. I don't have concrete answers but I think we need to take mental health more seriously. Nobody should have to worry about their children being killed when they send them to school.

 

[3-2-1836]

Plus the AWB was complete bullshit. It was an agreement to study what effect banning "assault weapons" would have on shootings/mass shooting, the deal was the law was supposed to sunset after 10 years. The study showed that banning "assault weapons" did jackshit to stop the number of mass shootings, or the number of people getting killed by guns, and the data since has proven that out since rifles make up a small percent of guns used in mass shootings. Of course certain blue ran shitholes like California went back on the promise and heavily infringed on their citizen's second amendment right.

Went back on the promise? California banned assault weapons in 1989, though it was ineffective until 2000 due to a court ruling that 'variant or derivative of' the banned list of guns was unconstitutionally vague or something, which is why in 2000 they banned specific features.

 

[garum expert]

Between 65-85% of mass shootings are done with stolen or illegally obtained firearms. The cities of Baltimore and Pittsburgh did a study on it a decade ago. You have upwards of 400 million guns in the US, you think you are going to somehow get rid of those? You are going to take all these millions of guns owned by law abiding citizens and then do what with all the gangbangers and criminals that have them? It is beyond unrealistic to think you are going to just disarm gun owners, who don't do these shootings to begin with.

We're talking about mass shooting in schools, supermarkets and stuff. not 'mass casualty' events that are basically gang shootouts. yeah gangsta criminals will still have guns but they aren't the ones shooting up schools and churches, nor is it what we're talking about.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

As tragic as this is, I think it's very important that we find a way to steer this conversation back to the dangers of white supremacy.

 

[Looney Troons]

A friend’s little boy was part of those whose lives were taken. I have words, but they are mostly nonsensical. I try my best to not come off as mad at the Internet (or the world in general) when I make posts here, but this fucking sucks. I hope that if there is a hell, the shooter finds himself in eternal agony.

 

[american_amadan]

This shit sucks. The politicians who pretend to care & use this shooting to further their careers should burn in hell.

Since the shooter was a mexican (troon?) I am curious to see how people will still blame "cis white males"

I already see it: Hispanics are now going to be considered white all the time. For such a race and ethnicity conscious website, Twitter knows little about how the US Census groups people. Hispanics aren't a race, they're an ethnic group. Most Hispanics fall under mixed race (usually native and white) or black (Dominicans) but they can and do identify as white, Argentineans being the common example, but there are plenty of white Mexicans as well.

Just wait to see a lot of "ACTUALLY, hispanics are colonizers" coming in the next weeks.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Went back on the promise? California banned assault weapons in 1989, though it was ineffective until 2000 due to a court ruling that 'variant or derivative of' the banned list of guns was unconstitutionally vague or something, which is why in 2000 they banned specific features.

Hilarious how the streetsweeper shotgun is banned but the Origin 12 is a-ok. Hopefully no fed's are browsing because if so oops. I'm sorry frens.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

Plus the AWB was complete bullshit. It was an agreement to study what effect banning "assault weapons" would have on shootings/mass shooting, the deal was the law was supposed to sunset after 10 years. The study showed that banning "assault weapons" did jackshit to stop the number of mass shootings, or the number of people getting killed by guns, and the data since has proven that out since rifles make up a small percent of guns used in mass shootings. Of course certain blue ran shitholes like California went back on the promise and heavily infringed on their citizen's second amendment right.

I remember after the AWB, Springfield Armory removed the bayonet lug from their M14 clone, the m1a since that was one of the 'features' that could make a semi-automatic an 'assault weapon'. I can't think of any mass shooting in the US that involved the use of a bayonet charge.

 

[RedDelicious]

So if we are looking for some sort of long term solution, there aren't any. Gun control won't work, because for one thing the goal of gun control isn't to prevent school shootings. It's to disarm the populace so they are easier to control. School shooting and murder sprees will still happen, laws or no laws. The issue driving this is a rising tide of nihilism in our society and there are no easy fixes for that.

Short term solution? Have a pair of parents with their rifles on duty every day. Would make it hard to shoot up the school then, especially since the parents would be pretty motivated to fight back. That would actually accomplish something. Which is why it will never be implemented.

I'm sorry but this is a fucking horrible idea. This is how you get suddenly deputized parents accidently shooting people and/or kids and not much else. Most schools have 'resource officers' now anyway that do very little to deter shootings because they aren't driven by logic in the first place. The real long term solution is solving societal malaise via social programs and expanding the availability of mental healthcare, but that isn't profitable to businesses or politicians, so there is no real incentive for change at the top. They aren't the ones being shot at, after all.

 

[FunPosting101]

Between 65-85% of mass shootings are done with stolen or illegally obtained firearms. The cities of Baltimore and Pittsburgh did a study on it a decade ago. You have upwards of 400 million guns in the US, you think you are going to somehow get rid of those? You are going to take all these millions of guns owned by law abiding citizens and then do what with all the gangbangers and criminals that have them? It is beyond unrealistic to think you are going to just disarm gun owners, who don't do these shootings to begin with.

Plus, ya know, guns aren't the only way you can commit a mass murder.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Hilarious how the streetsweeper shotgun is banned but the Origin 12 is a-ok. Hopefully no fed's are browsing because if so oops. I'm sorry frens.

These threads always glow at radioactive levels whenever there is a (((happening)))

 

[BallisticStylus]

Man, this thread goes very fast. I just left here at page 16 and now it's over 50 fucking pages; Goddam.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The only thing I can think of short term is to begin to pass sentencing legislation that makes any improper use of a firearm (especially assault rifle like weapons) a serious level felony with mandatory minimum prison terms. You are not going to get in trouble if you're responsible with your gun, but if there's anything less than responsible you should expect to go away. Guns are so commonplace in America that we have seemingly desensitized to their effects. I don't want to overturn the 2A, but I also want to punish morons that ruin guns for everyone else because they're irresponsible or dangerous.

Terrible idea. Laws like that will be creatively interpreted.

 

[CarlosDanger]

We're talking about mass shooting in schools, supermarkets and stuff. not 'mass casualty' events that are basically gang shootouts. yeah gangsta criminals will still have guns but they aren't the ones shooting up schools and churches, nor is it what we're talking about.

It isn't law abiding citizens shooting up the schools either, and you basically destroy your own "point" by then agreeing criminals will still have weapons. Plus like I said, there are 400 millions guns in circulation, so thinking you could even disarm normal people is a fantasy.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Plus, ya know, guns aren't the only way you can commit a mass murder.

Trucks of peace did a lot of damage in Europe between 2014-2016.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Are Zoomers just more easily influenced into these helpful events for the democratic objectives?

Or is it just evil white supremacy that seems to be infecting the generation that has the hightest percentage of LGBBQ people and the highest levels of tolerance more than any other group?

no. They don't buy it either. But they get to larp that they care

ABC News reported 14 students are dead, as well as the suspect, yet links from Drudge quote two killed and the suspect in custody... what gives? How can the reported "facts" be so different?

Whenever a happening occurs all news will be wrong for 24-48 hours.

Narratives take 24-48 hours to properly bake.

It also takes 24 to 48 hours for facts to come out.

Looks to be a local murderer that decided to use kids as a shield:

"#BREAKING Multiple children were shot & killed at an Elementary School in Uvalde, TX. Multiple LE sources tells me the shooter was a murder suspect, there was a bolo out for his truck— A pursuit ended near Robb Elementary—He ran into the school, started firing. Limited info."

https://twitter.com/AliBradleyTV/status/1529192805171703816

But information is all over the fucking place so who knows.

Yeah if this is true we wont hear it repeated

Is it just me or do all these mass shootings seem to come in waves?
It like period goes by with none then all of a sudden theres a few of them in a couple of months then it goes quiet again.

People who are mentally ill get inspired by each other because the news media glorifies the shootings.

IF this is a school shooting and not an incidental "suspect on the run runs into a school to get hostages" then it's likely the fact that fucked up people see how notorious the previous shooters became and then want their cut of the pie.

To the media and our ruling class those are the same thing.

Seems planned if this is him. Dude has pictures of guns posted 4 days ago on his story highlight.

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It is amazing how social media companies ALWAYS MISS THIS.

But if you talk about taking Veterinary pills (unless its for abortion) you go to internet jail right away

 

[booklover]

This is the kind of school where it happened. Those poor kids probably had a lifetime of hopelessness, and then this happened to them.

https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/texas/robb-elementary-278634

 

[Quantrell Bishop]

That was disgusting. Not only for the fact that he spent about thirty seconds pretending to grieve with the parents before old-man-yelling about the lobbies, the lobbies, when in God's name the lobbies,

They like to use that word because people associate lobbies with things like the military industrial complex. In reality the gun lobby has actual grassroots support numbering in the millions. It's very disingenuous but it works.