Crime Gunman at a Texas elementary school kills 19 students and two adults before being fatally shot, officials say - yeehaw

(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting/index.html

 

[edgymovies]

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

It's an elementary school. There's not a lot of violence that happens with children that you would need armed guards for typically. I can't tell if you're suggesting that in your country that grade schools are heavily protected or that you're just projecting what you think America should be like.

 

[cuddle striker]

For me, actually following through with implementing the changes to NICS, the instant background check database after the Virginia Tech shooting. A large number of the major mass shootings since VTech (most recent example being the sperg in Buffalo) involved people who were technically ineligible to purchase a firearm because they were adjudicated by the courts to some form of psychiatric treatment. However, due to lack of funding and poor record keeping, NICS was never updated and they were able to purchase a gun, which was later used in a mass shooting.

The law that was passed after VTech had major bipartisan support, including by the NRA and Brady Foundation, and was signed into law by Bush in 2008 with much fanfare. However, when Obama took office, the GOP did a 180 and it became "the worst thing ever," basically killing it's funding and implementation. I'm no fan of Obama, but what happened was total bullshit and IMO cost lives and caused a lot of avoidable heartache and stress all for scoring some truly dubious political points.

reasonable gun control is not enough for centrist libs and far too much for the far right.

lefties and gun people, it's just right. fund NICS and actually utilize the laws we've got, ffs

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

a few of the shootings have had cops or security guards (armed) present, in at least one case the dude ran away. straight up ran away

personally I'm at the point thinking that households with men under the age of 25 present should be barred from keeping semi-autos of any kind on the premises.

 

[zionlion1488]

Trannies are a threat to children and the Left is full of trannies.

And your point is? What kind of post is this?

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

The schools in the inner city areas have tons of metal detectors and police that prevent kids from stabbing or shooting each other over little arguments or gang activity but mass shootings only require a little social engineering. Police and teachers are not on the lookout for mass shooters either and thats assuming the school/police do their job in the first place. Even if they do suspect something, the likelihood of anything happening is nil because public school. Nicholas Cruz is legitimately retarded with fetal alcohol syndrome and he was still able to pull his shooting off.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I have a bit of an odd question: is this getting significant coverage in Mexico?

Kind of.

LINK

LINK

Televisa, the biggest media organization in Jalapeno land is covering it.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

i can’t think of any policy that isn’t egregious that could stop it

Monitoring? Gun bans? Security & barbed wire?

How about people learn a bit about their neighbors & if the kid is clearly a hell spawn, report him to the authorities so he is red flagged & can’t get weapons? Idk

Not all tragedies are best prevented by policy. Sometimes it takes community & culture.

Could change my mind tho

Locking the fucking doors of the building for one thing. Why can someone just walk into an elementary school at anytime? Teachers guide the kids everywhere so the only times the doors need to be open is when kids arrive, when kids go home. Give faculty keys.

Or do what most businesses already do and make doors require a code or buzzer for secretaries to admit entry. This will also take care of bunkers.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

reasonable gun control is not enough for centrist libs and far too much for the far right.

lefties and gun people, it's just right. fund NICS and actually utilize the laws we've got, ffs

Cops don't want to do that.

The Fort Hood Shooter openly talked about how it was the duty of Muslim soldiers to kill non Muslim soldiers in medical training classes.

They promoted him for fear of destroying their careers.

people don't want to do the right thing......they want to do the company thing

 

[DaBigBopper]

I have a bit of an odd question: is this getting significant coverage in Mexico?

Does the US cover every time a Mexican region has a cartel war? Like the ones that have been happening for over a decade?

 

[Kulee Baba]

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

Trooning = Insta Red Flag.

Take that Trans Unicorn Ranch.

 

[Standardized Profile]

what are road laws

There are 13.4 firearm deaths/100,000 population and 12.4 motor vehicle deaths/100,000 population, so all our traffic laws, licensing requirements, and technological advancements have made motor vehicles just slightly safer than firearms. If you exclude firearm suicides, guns might even be safer than cars. But overdoses are deadlier than firearms and motor vehicles combined. Poisons are even deadlier than that. So why don't we see a national campaign to regulate assault poisons and high capacity poison containers? Because humans are bad at judging risk. We evolved to be afraid of threats we can see, and we see things on TV, so we're afraid of them. The media doesn't drone on endlessly about the poisoning epidemic or the OD epidemic or the car accident epidemic so we don't consider those equally or more risky, even though they are.

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.

www.cdc.gov

In 2019 there were 14,414 homicides due to discharge of a firearm and 23,941 suicides by firearm. The number of firearm homicides is virtually identical to the number of deaths caused by malignant neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis. Do you see Biden giving speeches about malignant neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis? Are there politicians running on a platform of ending malignant neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis? Are there Federal agencies devoted to controlling malignant neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis? Have you even heard of the neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis crisis? If you are not concerned about 14,000 deaths to malignant neoplasms of kidney and renal pelvis, why should you be concerned about the same number of firearm homicides?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-08-508.pdf

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Does the US cover every time a Mexican region has a cartel war? Like the ones that have been happening for over a decade?

How would that help corporate and political powers allied with the news media?

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

Mental asylums

 

[Xarpho]

already taking his shots

https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1529243470828806144

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edit: oops images not working

Of course, he's blaming open carry. Open carry isn't used by mass shooters/criminals, and rarely results in incidents that make the news.

It's all so tiresome.

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

The schools in the inner city areas have tons of metal detectors and police that prevent kids from stabbing or shooting each other over little arguments or gang activity but mass shootings only require a little social engineering. Police and teachers are not on the lookout for mass shooters either and thats assuming the school/police do their job in the first place. Even if they do suspect something, the likelihood of anything happening is nil because public school. Nicholas Cruz is legitimately retarded with fetal alcohol syndrome and he was still able to pull his shooting off.

Idk bout you, but lots of teachers are quietly looking out for red flags for mass shooters (awkward edgy bad haircut autistic guns military obsession no friends etc)

Problem is - Lanza and this tranny Ramirez didn’t even go to the school. even if detection worked full proof, there’s no one but enabling moms/granny’s to realize their kids are demented

 

[Wally]

oh yeah because prohibition has always worked perfectly here in the good ol' USA. No one here does any drugs, its crazy, just because they are prohibited by law.

Yes prohibition worked and drastically decreased the amount of alcohol consumed in the US. To say that banning something doesn't decrease the usage of something is ridiculous. If something is legalized, then its usage increases. Example: if we legalized CP, then the demand for it would increase which would likely lead to an increase in supply. This is why we ban CP. I agree that banning firearms would be a bad idea. However, it does not make sense to say that gun crime overall would increase after a ban. It would decrease.

 

[Full Race Replay]

Considering there's a lot of back and forth on this topic, and the last shooting; I do have one question. What do you guys think is a reasonable approach from a legislation standpoint, to stop this kind of shit?

It's pretty clear at this point that schools and shopping centers are being targeted due to low (if any at all) security/threat level. I know the left will freak out at mention of this, but I honestly don't see how anyone can argue about teachers being trained with sidearm and being able to conceal/carry. It could be on a volunteer basis, and to be blunt; all its going to take is one would be shooter getting popped in the fucking head by the gym teacher for them (the left) to shut the fuck up about it. Nobody would be forced to carry, it could be an entirely volunteer program. For those that volunteer, training could be issued by the schools police liason or a state run program by the state troopers. At this point, something has to be done.

Unless you're leaning towards this being a glowop, I can't argue with you. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; just that you can't argue solutions to a conspiracy barring no damning evidence is presented. It's just conjecture at this point in time.

This would be a good topic for deep thoughts, but besides a bunch of bullshit that you could think up to make yourself "feel safer", adding back constitutional carry or concealed carry (even if you don't roll back any other gun laws you have) and having armed security (although there is the unfortunate (or fortunate?) fact that the overwhelming majority of these units would never be "engaged" in their entire life of being assigned to protect a school, church, or other location) are the best ways to directly counter these problems, especially short-term, over the next decade or two.

If you want to try to figure out how to fix what's wrong with society that is radicalizing these people, I honestly can't think of anything. Despite the media sensationalist bias that gravitates towards these events, they (and the shooters) make up a tiny microscopic portion of all people in the world, so i'm weary of making blanket statements about how pop culture is nowadays and about what aspects need to be rolled back. Of course, none of them would give you a truthful answer as to why they decided they would do this. And there are so many things about society, pop culture, the media, that changed between April 19 1999 and nowadays, good luck identifying exactly what is wrong with how we are nowadays.

However, I would guess that the status applied to people such as the unabomber (for the contents of his manifesto) by the media and ordinary people is an interesting topic to address.

 

[cuddle striker]

They're the kids whose families can afford nicer stuff, too, not necessarily the weirdos.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

Lovechild of Adam Lanza and Richard Ramirez, that's a new one.

Harsh truth is there is no legislative fix. Allowing teachers to concealed carry (which I personally agree with) is as much a bandaid fix as the leftist dogma of gun control: it does not tackle the root cause nor will stop these tragedies from happening.

As brought up repeatedly ITT the only way of dealing with this is to find, identify, and help (or incarcerate) kids like this shooter before they have a chance to go batshit, and that would take a level of mental health investment and personal diligence that will realistically never happen. We're living the consequences of a diverse and globally connected society.

People don't like hearing this but it's the truth. How do you stop this from happening? Well, you can't, really. You can restrict the means, sure, but psychos will still do psycho shit, guns or no guns. Europe isn't violence-free. Other proposed measures are generally impractical and/or have too many drawbacks to be realistically implemented.

You can try to address the root of the issue, the guys who are doing this, but how can you consistently predict who will flip out and how can you do that without infringing on basic privacy and constitutional rights? Even if you tried people will screech about profiling and "demonising", of POC by the left and white males by the right. Mental healthcare is important but again, how can you know who needs it most? Just how much of the brainrot can you prevent and mitigate? You can't force someone to cooperate and at the end of the day they're still able to purchase firearms a a certain age. Also, being a radicalised retard isn't a mental illness. People will blame society, race, America, guns, healthcare accessibility, the internet, and so on, but psychos gonna psycho even in the best of times.

 

[zionlion1488]

I personally don't know what could be done to decrease the likelyhood of these events (because let's be real, as long as a schizo can hold a gun there will always be this kind of tragedies happening). I'm a fat retarded fag who uses KF so my take is as good as the next guy.

But i'm personally curious to ask, don't schools have some kind of priority when it comes to security over at the US? I'm talking armed guys whose only purpose there is to act as a deterrant or to shoot at the loonies who actively do these things? You would believe that parents would demand more boots around the place their kids spend atleast 1/3rd of their day per week for years. I guess the problem here would lie with some public schools having so little funding not allowing them to pay for that kind of security.

Lack of funding or more likely corrupt officials who would rather line their own pockets (and probably owe a lot of favors) than actually do anything to help their constituents.

 

[netorare]

mass shooting debates are truly pointless and these threads prove it