General transgender discussion thread - Take the tranny related debates here.

I remember being vaguely tolerant, and sympathetic to trans people. I'd met a couple, they legitimately seemed like tortured souls who wanted to transition and live as quiet a life as possible.

Granted, that was 10-20 years ago. Now I find myself unironically just thinking we should actually just go ahead with that genocide they keep talking about.

The only good tranny is a dead tranny.
 
I was listening to a podcast today and they had old school drag queen Lady Bunny as a guest. I fully believe Lady Bunny knows and embraces the fact they are a man in a dress despite their public persona being a female for 175+ years.

The podcast was retelling a story about a scam artist and before they fully revealed who the scammer was, they showed a photo of the scammer to the guests and Lady Bunny immediately laughed and said "that's a man!"

A few minutes later it was revealed that the scammer was transgender - even though the story had been using "she/her" pronouns the entire time.

I just thought it was personally funny that a drag queen legend who has seen probably nearly 100,000 cross dressing men in their time easily immediately clocked the scammer without prompting. Lady Bunny would probably be the expert on Maury's old "is it a man or a tranny" shows.
 
Trans people are simply another demographic. There's good trans people, and there's bad trans people. At the end of the day sweeping them all under the same rug feels like a reductionist move to make- same shit as feminists who deem every man a rapist.

Though I will admit I find the psychology of some of these people to be fascinating. Gender is such a simple concept, yet so many of them want to complicate things. if you're a dude you're a dude, if you're a chick then you're a chick. If you're neither you're neither. We don't need fifty billion terms for the same three categories. Sure terms have changed quite a bit over the years, that's to be expected, but I think there's a stark difference between the shift between transsexual and transgender and randomly making up something like 'stargender'.

And don't get me started on the hundreds of genders based on mental conditions. While mental illness can certainly have an effect on one's sense of self, I feel like turning your gender into some sort of pathology is simply asking for things to get worse.
 
On that topic - It’s a bit of a chicken or egg thing but I wonder how influential modern cartoons have been with autistic men like Chris trooning out, having in the old days male characters play the fun loving and powerful hero but in recent years there’s an increase in women characters taking up that role where they even get the pretty girl and male characters are made more inept and sidelined.
It's Current Year. Of course cartoons are going to be like that.

Shouldn't be a surprise if it's done that way to promote "transgender" on purpose.
 
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It's Current Year. Of course cartoons are going to be like that.

Shouldn't be a surprise if it's done that way to promote "transgender" on purpose.
I’m not really sure if it’s just trans writers doing self inserts and wish fulfilment.

The cartoons where it does happen usually aren‘t that popular with kids who seem to prefer traditional family structures like Peppa Pig or Bluey for young kids or cartoons like Teen Titan’s Go or SpongeBob for younger teens, cartoons like Owl House or the She-ra reboot seem more popular with adults.
 
I left my job today for a large number of reasons but one of the many was the fact the company had a recent issue with sexual harassment complaints but continually strong armed the people who complained about it so that it was less of a big deal.

But they sure did write a big long list of everyone's pronouns on a board for everyone to follow and respect and care about.

And I have to be honest - I don't care what gender is sexually harassing me at work, nor does it come into the equation as a long term prevalent problem.

But we gotta know the pronouns. It's very important we get people's pronouns right while sexually harassing them. It's only respectful. Otherwise I guess it becomes a hate crime.

Anyways I'm glad to be out but this just stuck at me.
 
Trannies are not a diverse group. You can divide them into a minority and a majority. The minority (and shrinking) are people who feel bad about the essence of what they are, and hope to change themselves enough so the essence is less disturbing. The majority, and their allies, are people trying to shove a new dualism down your throat, and seek to control your thoughts by policing and changing language. Combining dualism and relativism creates incoherent, illogical nonsense.

The second group - the vast majority now - are by and large a group of people that cannot deal with the judgement that results from their sexuality deviating from the norm. AGPs, sissies, transvestites, abdls. They wield the first highly vulnerable group like a fucking cudgel. They also give no real shits about them. Nonsense like "women have dicks", "men can get pregnant" - they do not give a shit about the group they are taking advantage of so they can get a woman to fuck them with a strap on while they wear a dress. Otherwise they'd consider what putting people with erect dicks in locker-rooms does to teenage girls, or they'd consider how nutty it makes the first group look. Non-binary seems to tag along with the usual autistic fetishes (furries, diapers, sissyism). To the point I can't tell a difference other than "pronouns".

When you see the AGP smirk and it rubs you the wrong way - it's because the person giving it absolutely knows they're putting their fetish in your face. Before you would have called them a disgusting creep and told them to get off the lesbian dating sites. Now they recite incoherent philosophy, slogans, and tell you the minority group will kill themselves if you don't let them have judgement free access to their gratification.

I'm absolute unsuprised to find that three of the most prominent members of the eunich archive are faculty in gender studies departments. Most of the men there are narcissistic perverts who can't reconcile their narcissism with the flaw of perversion. Many of the women are narcissists that cannot reconcile that men have advantages they can never overcome.

The most irritating part of all of it. They've gained the degree of influence that they have through the student debt trap. Without the federal student loan program, most of the idiots who major in the ologies of the humanities wouldn't be there, and most of these professors would have no students and thus no jobs.

I want more video from the spanish cops beating the TRAs.
 
One of the reasons I support anarchism is that it will be harder for a tranny movement to form
I remember being vaguely tolerant, and sympathetic to trans people. I'd met a couple, they legitimately seemed like tortured souls who wanted to transition and live as quiet a life as possible.

Granted, that was 10-20 years ago. Now I find myself unironically just thinking we should actually just go ahead with that genocide they keep talking about.

The only good tranny is a dead tranny.
Fed spotted 👀
 
What exactly does "neither gender" mean? Personally, that sounds like a ludicrous and nonsensical concept designed to pander towards the mentally ill.
Listen, if someone can't be assed with being a man or a woman, or they feel like a bit of both, and they're not hurting anyone, then they can do whatever they want. The human experience is wild and varied. There's very little that's universal between people expect for monkey brain tier stuff like the urge to break ice or throw rocks into lakes.
I remember being vaguely tolerant, and sympathetic to trans people. I'd met a couple, they legitimately seemed like tortured souls who wanted to transition and live as quiet a life as possible.

Granted, that was 10-20 years ago. Now I find myself unironically just thinking we should actually just go ahead with that genocide they keep talking about.

The only good tranny is a dead tranny.
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Listen, if someone can't be assed with being a man or a woman, or they feel like a bit of both, and they're not hurting anyone, then they can do whatever they want. The human experience is wild and varied. There's very little that's universal between people expect for monkey brain tier stuff like the urge to break ice or throw rocks into lakes.

I guess I get lost in what people are even talking about with it. I know there's men, women and people who are born intersex - but neither gender just seems to be a term used when people feel like they're failing to live up to gendered stereotypes. Same with nonbinary. There's a sweet-spot, at least to me, where we can call people men and women whilst giving them the freedom to look, dress, act and behave however the hell they want.

And I was being hyperbolic, I don't violence of any kind will solve anything, nor do I condone it. I'm just tired of having to nod along with all of this retarded nonsense.
 
I guess I get lost in what people are even talking about with it. I know there's men, women and people who are born intersex - but neither gender just seems to be a term used when people feel like they're failing to live up to gendered stereotypes. Same with nonbinary. There's a sweet-spot, at least to me, where we can call people men and women whilst giving them the freedom to look, dress, act and behave however the hell they want.

And I was being hyperbolic, I don't violence of any kind will solve anything, nor do I condone it. I'm just tired of having to nod along with all of this retarded nonsense.
Fair. I will admit it does get tiring after a while- you can't even call out the worst of the lot without being labeled as transphobic. There's nothing transphobic about realizing that having emoji pronouns or whatever the fuck is just goofy as hell. However most of the people who are super cringey when it comes to being some sort of genderspecial are kids or very young adults. They're not fully matured yet, and there's hope they'll figure shit out eventually.

And you're right, the stereotypes assigned to gender are a whole 'nother beast. Though it is funny watching people fall into them trying to pass. There's a lot of trans men who will turn into emotionally constipated dickheads who don't take showers and reek like gym locker rooms because they think it's manly, and there's trans women who act hyper feminine by buying makeup, spending obscene amounts of money on clothes, or going out of their way to further alter themselves with shit like implants because their hormone titties aren't big enough.

Everyone is pushed to adhere to some sort of mold. Men are expected be macho, women are the home makers. I do find myself wondering how the concept of gender as an aspect of the self would change if the societal idea of gender roles wasn't as big an issue.
 
Listen, if someone can't be assed with being a man or a woman, or they feel like a bit of both, and they're not hurting anyone, then they can do whatever they want. The human experience is wild and varied. There's very little that's universal between people expect for monkey brain tier stuff like the urge to break ice or throw rocks into lakes.

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Lol shut up tranny.
 
looks like i busted a stitch in your bottom surgery. Don't go killing yourself.
Not everyone who has an opinion you dislike is a tranny, or one of those "liberal chomos" you keep screeching about. Your lack of understanding of the concept that someone disagreeing with you doesn't magically mean they're a part of whatever group lives rent free in you head speaks volumes as to just how mentally stunted you are.
 
Not everyone who has an opinion you dislike is a tranny, or one of those "liberal chomos" you keep screeching about. Your lack of understanding of the concept that someone disagreeing with you doesn't magically mean they're a part of whatever group lives rent free in you head speaks volumes as to just how mentally stunted you are.
A lot of assumptions. Do you feel better now?
 
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