Better Call Saul

characters who are not in BB left:
Chuck
Nacho
Howard

Lalo (methlab, secret gun)
Kim (blame, break up, vacoom)
Cliff (?)
Erin (Diabetes)
Ernesto (N)

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I am minorly torn on the issue of whether Hector's maniacal bell ringing was a really emphatic yes to Lalo's "Plan A" concept or a really emphatic no.

My heart says really emphatic yes.
 
I am minorly torn on the issue of whether Hector's maniacal bell ringing was a really emphatic yes to Lalo's "Plan A" concept or a really emphatic no.

My heart says really emphatic yes.
Probably a "no", he looked pissed (moreso) and I think he actually wants him humiliated in front of -and likely tortured to death by- the cartel more than anything.
 
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characters who are not in BB left:
Chuck
Nacho
Howard

Lalo (methlab, secret gun)
Kim (blame, break up, vacoom)
Cliff (?)
Erin (Diabetes)
Ernesto (N)

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Cliff, Erin and Ernesto are only there to drive certain storylines, I doubt it matters what will happen to them. Cliff will continue being a lawyer, probably assuming Howard crossed the cartel or went fucking nuts while on Escobar's sugar or something, Erin will still be a miserable bitch in Davis & Main and I think Ernesto got let go by Chuck a couple of seasons ago.
 
He's already confirmed dead before he was introduced, because in the Crawl Space episode of Breaking Bad, Gus tells Hector that he's the last Salamanca alive, after Jesse killed his grandson Joaquin while he, Gus and Mike were trying to escape.
But Saul doesn't know that. I'm rewatching BB and when Walt and Jesse kidnap Saul, Saul starts saying " Did Lalo sent you? Soy amigo del Cartel" implying he doesn't know what happened with Lalo afterwards. It is a very small line in BB so I hope they don't retconned that.

Also I believe Kim will die or get vacuumed, cause is weird how we got a pansy Saul in BCS and a chad Saul in BB.
 
But Saul doesn't know that. I'm rewatching BB and when Walt and Jesse kidnap Saul, Saul starts saying " Did Lalo sent you? Soy amigo del Cartel" implying he doesn't know what happened with Lalo afterwards. It is a very small line in BB so I hope they don't retconned that.
I know, and they're gonna have to write his death in such a way that Gus knows he's dead but Jimmy doesn't. Or, alternatively, Lalo could actually be alive and Gus has been duped the whole time.
It could also be that because Jimmy was under the assumption that Lalo had been death and was shocked to see him return in such a dramatic fashion, he's always looking over his shoulder thinking "he could very well still be alive".
 
Also I believe Kim will die or get vacuumed, cause is weird how we got a pansy Saul in BCS and a chad Saul in BB.
I think after the latest event, Saul has crossed the event horizon and obtained the "doesn't really care about anything any more" character tag (Dwarf Fortress reference). That scene has haunted me since. This is one of those "subverting expectations" thing because BB was all about the buildup to an event you know is coming anyway if you're paying attention, but it seems BCS is often about delivering what you expected but way sooner than you expected it.

Poor Howard. He had no clue what he was even involved with. He had no idea why these two people hated him so much, and got killed by someone who couldn't give a fuck less about him, just to impress upon Jimmy and Kim the gravity of the situation. Also fuck you Mike, you didn't have a guy in the sewers? You lazy ass punk!
 
How did Lalo even get in the apartments if Jim had Mikes men watching over them?

Lalo misled them into believing he was definitely coming after Gus. So no need to watch over Kim and Jimmy.

I liked the scene where Lalo realizes the phone is tapped. I guess the point was to show us Gus and Mike are smart but Lalo is smarter. My only gripe is it makes Gus and Mike look like retards instead. How could they not realize Lalo would know the phone was tapped? Specially when they could hear Hector desperately trying to warn him.
 
Specially when they could hear Hector desperately trying to warn him.
Or realizing what was going on and playing along with it. Hector's basically all there mentally still. So I'm pretty sure now the bell-ringing was explicitly saying FUCK NO, but if Hector actually figured out Lalo was pulling something, it was an act, which would explain why he put so much emphasis on it, for the audience, and also the seemingly mixed emotions. I'm pretty sure Hector would know whatever Lalo's plan was, it didn't involve an absolutely asinine full frontal solo assault on a drug kingpin whose bodyguards are on high alert.
 
The most sadistic part of this buildup was the fog surrounding James and Kim, Clifford and company seem like they disregard patterns laid out in front of them. Maybe it's the money, probably the money.
 
He's already confirmed dead before he was introduced, because in the Crawl Space episode of Breaking Bad, Gus tells Hector that he's the last Salamanca alive, after Jesse killed his grandson Joaquin while he, Gus and Mike were trying to escape.
Right, I mean that now that we, the audience, knows that Gus is aware that Lalo contacted Hector. I think that one will be the first of Gus's outright gloating
 
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As much as Howard paid the price for Jimmy and Kim's spite, it also sticks in my craw that they used a decent dude like Clifford Main in this way. It's somewhat ironic, because his particular area of specialty, mesothelioma lawyering, is a genuine cesspool.

Also they really don't seem to be being very subtle about the foreshadowing, something I'm not sure whether I like or not. "Plan and EXECUTION" was pretty on the nose. So is it a foregone conclusion that Lalo dies in the lab? It also seems to be a common speculation that he's actually buried there, too. This is before the days Heisenberg introduced them to the wonders of hydrofluoric acid.

PROTIP: hydrofluoric acid is an insanely dangerous choice for this kind of disposal anyway, as even the slightest contact with it can be fatal. Use boiling lye instead.
 
I thought it looked strange that Howard didn’t look at lalo , therefore meaning he got shot in the side of the head. Assuming jimmy will set it up as a suicide?

I hope Kim dies now lol.
 
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I thought it looked strange that Howard didn’t look at lalo , therefore meaning he got shot in the side of the head. Assuming jimmy will set it up as a suicide?

I hope Kim dies now lol.
It looks like the current trend is people who don't deserve it are dying like flies thanks to the sociopathic and irrational choices of the main characters.
The most sadistic part of this buildup was the fog surrounding James and Kim, Clifford and company seem like they disregard patterns laid out in front of them. Maybe it's the money, probably the money.
And thanks to the circumstances of his death, even if Kim and Jimmy come under deserved suspicion, it will be thought he succumbed to his inner demons, instead of inadvertently killed by one sicko on his way to get info from two other sickos.

That said it was obvious this whole bizarre revenge plot against Howard (much of which for shit that was not even his fault) was going to end very badly.

Something else I realize is that Zafiro bottle stopper is still out there. Will that cursed tequila be the end of another Salamanca? I'm going to call it, Kim kills Lalo with the bottle stopper, maybe by stabbing him in the eye with it.
 
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Ok, place your bets lads, Howard and Chuck are going to be used in the opening of the next episode, will it be Chuck getting his brother a job in the mail room to Howard's trepidation or Howard genuinely proud of Jimmy passing the bar and enthusiastically suggesting they hire him.'

Bonus the entire episode's subplot is around Lalo questioning Kim and Jimmy while disposing of the body out in the desert with progressive flashbacks of the one leading to the other.
 
Bonus the entire episode's subplot is around Lalo questioning Kim and Jimmy while disposing of the body out in the desert with progressive flashbacks of the one leading to the other.
If that happens it might be why Saul later panics and assumes it's Lalo's guys kidnapping him to the desert.
 
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