Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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RGW90 MATADOR on the cameraman with follow up of multiple АТ-4s.
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Winner. Sights and cutout on the protective bumper seem to match.
 
overestimated 'murican equipment. How unfortunate. :sighduck:

The west shamefully overestimated its weapons at being able to take our 120% of the initial invasion force's tanks and they only took out 100%.

Today is a dark day for the Pentagon. Gorillions resigned this morning. Biden on suicide watch. Canada might invade. We fear for our lives. Fried chicken is running out. The cost of Froot Loops is up to $4/box. We may have no choice but to preemptively nuke Guatemala if this keeps up.
 
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The west shamefully overestimated its weapons at being able to take our 120% of the initial invasion force's tanks and they only took out 100%.

Today is a dark day for the Pentagon. Gorillions resigned this morning. Biden on suicide watch. Canada might invade. We fear for our lives. Fried chicken is running out. The cost of Froot Loops is up to $4/box. We may have no choice but to preemptively nuke Guatemala if this keeps up.
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I was wrong then - not an NLAW. However

The warhead of the MATADOR is unique, with a selectable shaped charge capability. With the probe extended, the warhead will fire the charge liner into the target as a penetrator, capable of punching through thick vehicle armor. With the probe retracted, the warhead will flatten-out on impact prior to detonation, in much the same manner as a High-Explosive Squash Head (HESH) round, and then detonate; in this setting, the blast will smash through thick masonry, concrete, or even stone walls, creating a mousehole at least 450 mm wide. Against thinner walls (such as single-layer brick walls), the HESH effect will breach a hole large enough for a man to walk though. The operator can switch from one setting to another simply by pulling the probe out to its full length, or pushing it back in.

The performance of the warhead against armored vehicles is also significantly increased over that of the earlier Armbrust, with the ability to penetrate 500 mm of rolled homogenous armor equivalent. However, it still lacks a precursor charge, so performance against reactive armor is still poor.

From http://www.military-today.com/firearms/matador.htm

Did they fire an anti-building warhead? Doesnt look like it.
 
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I've been away from the war for a couple weeks, but have caught up now. As a Russia shill it pains me to see Ukraine has completely routed the ammoless and demoralized Russian army and is still just 2 weeks away from sieging Moscow. jk lmao, western media has finally started reporting on just how poorly the Ukrainian army/TDF are doing in the Donbas. What they're now reporting has been the narrative amongst the pro-Russia crowd for weeks now, you can only assume with that kind of lag in reporting that the current situation for Ukraine on the ground is very very bad.

The WaPo article that BBC stub cites is long but pretty good.
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Most telling I think is that you're seeing a lot of reporting that the front line troops for Ukraine in many cases are TDF units. Pre-war it was claimed that there were 60k AFU soldiers in the Donbas, that's a lot of troops to cram in to what is becoming an increasingly small front. Many of those were of course in Mariupol, which had a 100% casualty rate. I've seen estimates that troop numbers there were ~10k-15k. That's a lot to lose, but would still leave 10s of thousands to man the rest of the front.

Given the information we have it's my guess that most of those experience, professional soldiers have been killed or wounded. Even in western sources all we've heard of the Ukrainian forces is of surrenders, soldiers refusing to fight, or retreats. These are the signs of an army that's already been defeated.
 
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I've been away from the war for a couple weeks, but have caught up now. As a Russia shill it pains me to see Ukraine has completely routed the ammoless and demoralized Russian army and is still just 2 weeks away from sieging Moscow. jk lmao, western media has finally started reporting on just how poorly the Ukrainian army/TDF are doing in the Donbas. What they're now reporting has been the narrative amongst the pro-Russia crowd for weeks now, you can only assume with that kind of lag in reporting that the current situation for Ukraine on the ground is very very bad.

The WaPo article that BBC stub cites is long but pretty good.
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Most telling I think is that you're seeing a lot of reporting that the front line troops for Ukraine in many cases are TDF units. Pre-war it was claimed that there were 60k AFU soldiers in the Donbas, that's a lot of troops to cram in to what is becoming an increasingly small front. Many of those were of course in Mariupol, which had a 100% casualty rate. I've seen estimates that troop numbers there were ~10k-15k. That's a lot to lose, but would still leave 10s of thousands to man the rest of the front.

Given the information we have it's my guess that most of those experience, professional soldiers have been killed or wounded. Even in western sources all we've heard of the Ukrainian forces is of surrenders, soldiers refusing to fight, or retreats. These are the signs of an army that's already been defeated.

They are just being fair on the ruskies, they surrender to give the russians at least some ammo.
 
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I've been away from the war for a couple weeks, but have caught up now. As a Russia shill it pains me to see Ukraine has completely routed the ammoless and demoralized Russian army and is still just 2 weeks away from sieging Moscow. jk lmao, western media has finally started reporting on just how poorly the Ukrainian army/TDF are doing in the Donbas. What they're now reporting has been the narrative amongst the pro-Russia crowd for weeks now, you can only assume with that kind of lag in reporting that the current situation for Ukraine on the ground is very very bad.

The WaPo article that BBC stub cites is long but pretty good.
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Most telling I think is that you're seeing a lot of reporting that the front line troops for Ukraine in many cases are TDF units. Pre-war it was claimed that there were 60k AFU soldiers in the Donbas, that's a lot of troops to cram in to what is becoming an increasingly small front. Many of those were of course in Mariupol, which had a 100% casualty rate. I've seen estimates that troop numbers there were ~10k-15k. That's a lot to lose, but would still leave 10s of thousands to man the rest of the front.

Given the information we have it's my guess that most of those experience, professional soldiers have been killed or wounded. Even in western sources all we've heard of the Ukrainian forces is of surrenders, soldiers refusing to fight, or retreats. These are the signs of an army that's already been defeated.
I suggest reading the comments under the wapo article, as much as I dont like saying it, the amount of cope in there is insane.
 
Given the information we have it's my guess that most of those experience, professional soldiers have been killed or wounded. Even in western sources all we've heard of the Ukrainian forces is of surrenders, soldiers refusing to fight, or retreats. These are the signs of an army that's already been defeated.
The situation is pretty shitty as far as I can tell, but I wouldn't put a huge amount of weight on the complaints of the volunteers and any territorial militias that got raised up - Keeping those coordinated and supplied is a nightmare in the best of times, much less an invasion, so its not surprising that a lot of military command is approaching them as second thoughts at best. What is more worth paying attention to is the complaints of actual pre-invasion formations and their issues and morale. Their struggles are likely more telling of the whole situation.

I am not 100% sure about it but I believe a HESH round would instantly kill everyone inside. Side armor on BTR is only about 20-25mm, if even that.
In perfect circumstances, yes. Combat rarely offers perfect opportunities though, and something as simple as someones ruck hung on the outside of the vehicle could redirect the projectile enough or detonate it early enough to turn what should be a sure kill into a bunch of popped rivets and headaches all around. Which is why your explicitly trained to shoot and scoot like they did, you don't hang around and hope to nail disembarking crew, you haul ass like they did and hope its dead.
 
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See how it switched in a month? Yknow, ARMY BEEN DESTROYED, ONLY 3 SECONDS OF AMMO LEFT ,THIS THAT AND THE OTHER, has switched to WAAAAHHUUHGHH GEROYYYY UHHHH OVERWHELMING OOOODDSSSS

They're fucking prepping them for a heroic defeat story, yknow the entire UNDERDOG HEROES shit who in their defeat actually "won", okay? Like wtf.
Same shit with Poles, actually.
 
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See how it switched in a month? Yknow, ARMY BEEN DESTROYED, ONLY 3 SECONDS OF AMMO LEFT ,THIS THAT AND THE OTHER, has switched to WAAAAHHUUHGHH GEROYYYY UHHHH OVERWHELMING OOOODDSSSS

They're fucking prepping them for a heroic defeat story, yknow the entire UNDERDOG HEROES shit who in their defeat actually "won", okay? Like wtf.
Same shit with Poles, actually.

Poland never looses. Like Hungary, they only surrender land to increase their hatred and feed off its power.

Our forces will meet to toast for victory in the Pacific over dead USA, Russia and China, just give us a few thousand years!
 
ZeroHedge added a little bit more on the table about the WaPo shift on Ukraine.

With Russia's war in Ukraine now in its fourth month, mainstream media consumers have been treated to seemingly endless headlines and analysis of Russia's extensive military losses. At the same time Ukrainian forces have tended to be lionized and their battlefield prowess romanticized, with essentially zero public information so far being given which details up-to-date Ukrainian force casualties, set-backs, and equipment losses.

But for the first time The Washington Post is out with a surprisingly dire and negative assessment of how US-backed and equipped Ukrainian forces are actually fairing. Gone is the rosy idealizing lens through which each and every encounter with the Russians is typically portrayed. WaPo correspondent and author of the new report Sudarsan Raghavan underscores of the true situation that "Ukrainian leaders project an image of military invulnerability against Russia. But commanders offer a more realistic portrait of the war, where outgunned volunteers describe being abandoned by their military brass and facing certain death at the front."

How long before the NY Times will shift as well?
 
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