Jim Sterling / James "Stephanie" Sterling / James Stanton/Sexton & in memoriam TotalBiscuit (John Bain) - One Gaming Lolcow Thread

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

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The sympathy money must be drying up.

V-tubers have to be the lowest form of internet life. Seriously, at least Markiplier is giving a performance of sorts. At least he isn’t promoting this ideal of disembodiment.

 

[Moja Zemlja]

V-tubers have to be the lowest form of internet life. Seriously, at least Markiplier is giving a performance of sorts. At least he isn’t promoting this ideal of disembodiment.

I don't enjoy watching vtubers but I can respect the hussle trying to get money off internet simps.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Remember when vtubing was just Japanese weirdos that wanted to livestream but didn't want anybody knowing who they were while still having an on-screen presence? Good times, shame e-whores and greedy cunts have to hop on every bandwagon.

 

[Zizara]

V-tubers have to be the lowest form of internet life. Seriously, at least Markiplier is giving a performance of sorts. At least he isn’t promoting this ideal of disembodiment.

For the bandwagoners like Gemma is being here perhaps, but the vtubers who are attached to a company and do it as a career are a bit of a different beast.
For a start it's an actual job they had to actually audition for instead of just being some guy who turned a camera on one day. They're expected to be able to sing, play an instrument, draw, and so on with actual managers hanging over their shoulder to make sure they're not causing problems.
Platforms like Twitch don't exactly give them a high bar to jump over either, what with the infestation of "react" streamers who make a career out of watching other people's videos with their face plastered on top, or the glorified camgirls who rake in simpbux for the privilege of being female.

 

[WULULULULU]

For the bandwagoners like Gemma is being here perhaps, but the vtubers who are attached to a company and do it as a career are a bit of a different beast.
For a start it's an actual job they had to actually audition for instead of just being some guy who turned a camera on one day. They're expected to be able to sing, play an instrument, draw, and so on with actual managers hanging over their shoulder to make sure they're not causing problems.
Platforms like Twitch don't exactly give them a high bar to jump over either, what with the infestation of "react" streamers who make a career out of watching other people's videos with their face plastered on top, or the glorified camgirls who rake in simpbux for the privilege of being female.

V-tubing is not a job. Like, maybe finish college and find a decent-paying job instead of becoming an anti-depressant to a bunch of simps online.

 

[BHWuser]

I guess the question here is... is it just a normal penguin or like an anime girl with penguin qualities? One of those is gonna flop.

 

[St.Davis]

V-tubing is not a job. Like, maybe finish college and find a decent-paying job instead of becoming an anti-depressant to a bunch of simps online.

Why? If you can make a good living off of sitting around playing videogames and shitposting all day, why wouldn't you do that if given the chance?
The girls at HoloLive appear to make quite a pretty penny, especially the "face" ones like Pekora, Gura, and Miko.

God knows why you'd advocate for putting yourself into debt at University for what may well be a bullshit degree instead.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Become troon, cope, seethe & dilate soon

Change your gender, become commie defender.

 

[Prince Vegeta]

Why? If you can make a good living off of sitting around playing videogames and shitposting all day, why wouldn't you do that if given the chance?
The girls at HoloLive appear to make quite a pretty penny, especially the "face" ones like Pekora, Gura, and Miko.

God knows why you'd advocate for putting yourself into debt at University for what may well be a bullshit degree instead.

To each their own. Degrees are bullshit, as is v-tuber stuff. But I wonder how many current active v-tubers will be able to live off of that in 10 years time, or 20 years Maybe they'll still be active and fabulously wealthy and loved. Who knows. I am curious to see if this trend follows the same one as the 'aging stripper/prostitute,' or the mediocre band. If you only know one trick, no matter how good a trick it is, you are fucked if people move on to new product. This is probably why those v-tubers all look like they are on the brink of despair all the time to me. Then again, maybe some people love this life. I see them more as a symptom of modern society and enjoy watching them and their simps as well as their haters. Jim has entertained me for 10+ years with his antics. I hope for many more.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

To each their own. Degrees are bullshit, as is v-tuber stuff. But I wonder how many current active v-tubers will be able to live off of that in 10 years time, or 20 years Maybe they'll still be active and fabulously wealthy and loved.

Honestly, I feel it depends on how many of them are being smart with their money, and how many are just buying useless shit like they’re Sterling here.

I’d imagine that the smarter ones among them, once they saw just how much they were raking in, either invested or started throwing as much as they could (after company cuts, the tax man, etc.) into savings. It’s the stupid ones that’ll be fun to watch for - the content will always flow for us

 

[Gloria From Pokemon Sword]

V-tubers have to be the lowest form of internet life. Seriously, at least Markiplier is giving a performance of sorts. At least he isn’t promoting this ideal of disembodiment.

Objectively wrong. Being Jim Sterling is a lower form of internet life as is Boogie. And Moviebob. And DSP. and LowTierGod. Don't forget about the soon-to-be-extinct hottub streamers. As one of the few people in this thread who doesn't hate reactors, tubing is a step above that. I don't get the appeal of Vtubers, but it's just streaming while playing a character (if you're lucky, maybe it's not an annoying one).

Honestly, I feel it depends on how many of them are being smart with their money, and how many are just buying useless shit like they’re Sterling here.

I’d imagine that the smarter ones among them, once they saw just how much they were raking in, either invested or started throwing as much as they could (after company cuts, the tax man, etc.) into savings. It’s the stupid ones that’ll be fun to watch for - the content will always flow for us

I'm calling it: the big VTuber scandal will be the one(s) who commission porn of their character(s). As Rags did once, except to an internet personality people actually care about.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Vtubing, just like streaming at large, is an entertainment business. No one should plan a career around it because it's incredibly difficult to remain relevant for 10+ years while also avoiding burnout and all the psychological issues that come with it. The ones that are smart will save up and invest their money somewhere else. The dumb ones will get threads here once they start grasping more and more desperately for relevance/audience.

 

[Oliver Onions]

V-tubing is not a job. Like, maybe finish college and find a decent-paying job instead of becoming an anti-depressant to a bunch of simps online.

I don't know why people have this weird attitude specifically towards the internet. V-tubing or streaming in general is really no different to being a TV presenter, but I never saw anyone yelling at Jerry Springer or David Letterman to get a real job (actually I'm sure some probably did).

If you make a living off of it, it's a job. Not necessarily a good or bad one, but it is a job.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

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The sympathy money must be drying up.

And she hasn't found a new husband too mooch off... I mean, to help manage his career.

 

[Emperor Yakub]

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The sympathy money must be drying up.

What has she been up to lately? As far as I know she abandoned her son to live with his grandma and fucked off to South Korea.

 

[Bush King]

I don't know why people have this weird attitude specifically towards the internet. V-tubing or streaming in general is really no different to being a TV presenter, but I never saw anyone yelling at Jerry Springer or David Letterman to get a real job (actually I'm sure some probably did).

If you make a living off of it, it's a job. Not necessarily a good or bad one, but it is a job.

I think we're at the precipice to where it's quickly getting career potential but not quite there yet. It's far too volatile for most people now, where the end point seems to be using it for a leaping point elsewhere than sticking to it. A lot still do, but Pewdiepie is the exception, not the rule. People get sick of their favourite streamers, just as they do actors, but this is far quicker. The time period you have to lock in an audience for game streaming is typically teens to young adults, and that's a very short space income-wise. Right now moving to podcasts is the big thing because it requires very minimal effort comparatively and can pump out content, it will be interesting to see if that sticks around.

 

[Oliver Onions]

I think we're at the precipice to where it's quickly getting career potential but not quite there yet. It's far too volatile for most people now, where the end point seems to be using it for a leaping point elsewhere than sticking to it. A lot still do, but Pewdiepie is the exception, not the rule. People get sick of their favourite streamers, just as they do actors, but this is far quicker. The time period you have to lock in an audience for game streaming is typically teens to young adults, and that's a very short space income-wise. Right now moving to podcasts is the big thing because it requires very minimal effort comparatively and can pump out content, it will be interesting to see if that sticks around.

I imagine it probably has a similar success rate to those who move to Hollywood and expect to become A-listers, but you're right the window of time for those who do succeed is far smaller. I'd say the best strategy for most is to make as much money as fast as you can and save it up then get out and go do something more secure, long-term (assuming you haven't rendered yourself unemployable).

This is why I'm so curious what Jim is gonna do if the Patreon ever dries up. It's clear at this point no one is paying him for his videos because he hardly makes any, so he's probably gonna be able to ride the Patreon gravy train longer than someone like Spoony did, but if that day ever comes where he has to re-calibrate I just can't think what he's gonna do; he literally has no skills beyond being an annoying screaming fat man.

 

[Corn Flakes]

This is why I'm so curious what Jim is gonna do if the Patreon ever dries up. It's clear at this point no one is paying him for his videos because he hardly makes any, so he's probably gonna be able to ride the Patreon gravy train longer than someone like Spoony did, but if that day ever comes where he has to re-calibrate I just can't think what he's gonna do; he literally has no skills beyond being an annoying screaming fat man.

Oh, I know what he's gonna do: he'll go on a video-making spree, making a ton of low-effort "content" very quickly, trying to regain an audience. Not his audience. Just any audience.

And it's going to be hilarious. And pathetic. But mostly hilarious.

 

[Bush King]

I imagine it probably has a similar success rate to those who move to Hollywood and expect to become A-listers, but you're right the window of time for those who do succeed is far smaller. I'd say the best strategy for most is to make as much money as fast as you can and save it up then get out and go do something more secure, long-term (assuming you haven't rendered yourself unemployable).

This is why I'm so curious what Jim is gonna do if the Patreon ever dries up. It's clear at this point no one is paying him for his videos because he hardly makes any, so he's probably gonna be able to ride the Patreon gravy train longer than someone like Spoony did, but if that day ever comes where he has to re-calibrate I just can't think what he's gonna do; he literally has no skills beyond being an annoying screaming fat man.

My guess is he either doubles down like all the rest of the washed up content creators or he has an awakening and changes to actually put in the effort he used to before he could cruise. Impending financial ruin is a strong motivator, but he's in the UK now and that's going to confirm he doesn't move back to the US. The UK gives Universal Credit so long as you have under £16,000 saved (if he's smart and buys a house that won't affect it, and he could easily live on £500 a month), Federal unemployment benefits in the US require you to be employed at least three months in the past year. Having that safety net is going to make him complacent.

Oh, I know what he's gonna do: he'll go on a video-making spree, making a ton of low-effort "content" very quickly, trying to regain an audience. Not his audience. Just any audience.

And it's going to be hilarious. And pathetic. But mostly hilarious.

I doubt it, or at least it will be short lived. It'll be a boost to total views but not new viewers and he'll get burned out sooner than you can blink. If he's going to act like nothing's happening when he bleeds his great views and income, he's not going to change when he hits even less, so long as he can keep ordering kebabs and buy useless toys.

 

[RainwaterDrop]

There’s a huge difference between what people like Jim and normal non woke people consider fascist and that’s mainly due to intersectional feminism/critical race theory style thinking that’s been imported from America where unless you believe it 100% and are actively apologising and ‘trying to be better’ because you’re white or cis or whatever then you’re a fascist and you’re particularly bad if you’re a boomer blissfully ignorant of those ideologies going about their day treating everyone the same regardless of their race or gender identity and believe privilege is based on social class/wealth.

If Jim was more positive and didn’t have the victim complex or passive aggressive nature he’d probably be admired in Britain for being a self made man (Well, tranny) who became relatively successful despite his upbringing.

Precisely. And in a previsible twist of irony, people like Jim often suck up to authoritarian regimes as long as they are against the interests of the U.S. , which is entirely within expectations considering these people define themselves by their identitarian flags and are borderline aggressive with opposing discourse, meaning they aren't questioned as openly as they should be, leading to immature political positions and philosophically poor discourse. I'm not one to believe in conspiracy theories, but I can't help but ponder how convenient it has been that corporations started bowing down to fringe lunatics right after Occupy Wall Street rose to worldwide prominence in 2011!

This is how you get nonsensical positions, such as that a multimillionaire black woman, like Beyoncé, would still be less privileged than some white guy saddled with debt and living on a trailer in the boonies. If a coordinated effort to coopt mainstream liberal discourse in jingoistic defense of colossal corporations that bear the same flags as they do happened, it surely would pick this or a similar strategy, I assume!

He recently retconned this and said he actually moved back to the UK for personal/family reasons. So either his bizarro polycule was the only place he could get his dick sucked OR his personal reasons are bleeding the NHS dry.

My money is on latter, but not necessarily for troon stuff; I suspect his back issues are probably getting worse and wrestling absolutely can't be doing him any favours when he's already such a shambles. Actually, come to think of it, I wonder if wrestling invalidated whatever medical insurance he had in the US.

Though nowhere near as consistent as his YouTube losses, (his Twitter fluctuates with significant peaks and troughs,) I always wonder what particular straw breaks the camel's back on somewhere as already wretched as Twitter to make people nope out of Jim's 24/7 pity party and uneducated ramblings.

The last thing anyone with back issues should be doing is wrestling, it's a very physically demanding sport where even stellar examples of fitness end up with lifelong health problems, severe injuries and other maladies. The fights might be rigged, but everything else is real, the moves, the pain, the injuries!

It is on brand for a narcissist like Jim to ignore that, to a point, in order to get his ego highs. Same for him ignoring any medical advice regarding weight loss in order to deal with his back pain, fuck, not even that, there is an entire movement dedicated to denying the medical consensus on the evils of Obesity to health!

Oh, I know what he's gonna do: he'll go on a video-making spree, making a ton of low-effort "content" very quickly, trying to regain an audience. Not his audience. Just any audience.

And it's going to be hilarious. And pathetic. But mostly hilarious.

Jim just fucked himself over and hasn't realized it yet. Leaving your audience is recoverable to a point, worsening content as well, but straight up insulting your viewers and barely hiding your contempt for them? That's a step you can't undo. He could burn that stupid pronoums hat on camera, dress like he used to and apologize for the lunacy of the latest years and people still wouldn't forgive him for treating them like shit and a cash cow for all that time. The only way out of this mess would be a complete makeover targeting a fresh audience, something that takes a lot from a content creator without a fuckload of mental issues, let alone a raging lunatic with visceral narcissistic delusions. Jim can try a comeback as he pleases, but some things you simply can't salvage!