Callum Nathan Thomas Edmunds / MauLer93 / MauLer and the EFAPshere - Objective discussion about not-Channel Awesome featuring Rags, Southpaw and more!

[Steven Aryan Universe]

I look at Jay's twitter, and...

https://twitter.com/JayExci/status/1529245899460861952

 

[sheppydepp]

I've tried to listen to the Dr Strange EFAP.
The Longman Bad shit is really starting to get noticeable now.
An hour of their whining could be said in 5 minutes clearly and to the point if you GASP wrote a fucking script but then SHOCK you wouldn't be able to get superchats.

At least if they were actually funny, like if you would get Bill Burr, Dave Chapelle and Ricky Gervais to do the same shit these morons are doing, watch a movie and then talk shit about it and make jokes, that would probably be a hit because it would be funny.
None of them, even MauLer at this point, can have a career entirely on their own because they're nobodies with no personalities, they all need to come together like the fucking Avengers to generate enough of an audience to be relevant enough for at least a few of them to make money off of it..

Also the point of the podcast is completely lost on them.
Watch the 1st episode, it's a completely different show.

It really is just laughing at retards on the internet.
You have so much to work with just by reacting to the nonsense you see and hear.
With something like Doctor Strange that's mediocre, high production value and bad writing but in a way that's safe and marketable, you have to actually write a joke or be naturally funny, and none of these is a part of EFAP.
They're just throwing shit at the wall and, when they get a joke that sticks, they milk it for 6 months with memes and other nonsense until you puke every time you hear it.

The bitterness is strong with this one…
I mean yeah they’re shooting the shit, but it feels like the main goal of that stream was to break down the nonsense of the film. You realize they don’t make the memes, right? The audience makes them, and aside from showing them on stream, the humor doesn’t rely much on them. Unless you have some example you’re thinking of. Not sure if any of them are trying to be the next Bill Burr so much as just having a laugh or talking about a silly movie. They’re just a bunch of losers like us, after all…

 

[Gloria From Pokemon Sword]

I mean yeah they’re shooting the shit, but it feels like the main goal of that stream was to break down the nonsense of the film.

Which is it then? Is this a casual shoot-the-shit podcast or a serious breakdown of the movie? Are they just joking and we shouldn't take them too seriously, or are they actually trying to explain/understand what's wrong with this movie?

You realize they don’t make the memes, right? The audience makes them, and aside from showing them on stream, the humor doesn’t rely much on them. Unless you have some example you’re thinking of.

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But I think you misunderstood him: it's not that EFAP hosts make the memes, but any remotely funny joke will be run into the ground. And while 6 months was an exaggeration, it's not by much. It's also not that their humor relies on it, just simply that they aren't very funny when criticizing something like a mediocre movie that requires an acceptable understanding of storytelling or filmmaking to critique.

Not sure if any of them are trying to be the next Bill Burr so much as just having a laugh or talking about a silly movie.

That's not what he said, either. He was saying that those three very different personalities could do what MauLer, Rags, and Fringey do and make it work because they are funny. More accurately, they have strong enough observation skills to make jokes beyond "this sucks" and "remember Hitler?" And once again, you can be "oh me and my buddies are just riffing on a silly movie uwu" while also going "A total breakdown of awful blockbuster movie" MauLer and co. refuse to ever let anyone share an opinion and speak with any level of conviction (or as he'd call it, be objective), so they deserve the same.

They’re just a bunch of losers like us, after all…

Last time I checked, this thread didn't tell someone to kill themselves for praising a trailer for including music.

 

[sheppydepp]

MauLer and co. refuse to ever let anyone share an opinion and speak with any level of conviction (or as he'd call it, be objective), so they deserve the same.

Do you have an example of this? Last time I checked the internet has this thing called free speech.
Rags said something cunty about the people praising the song in the trailer. Then someone in chat said something like “Is it just me or is Rags super cunty today?” Rags responded, “Oh, gee, I don’t know… kill yourself?” So you’re right, what you’re seeing here is Rags being his authentic self, he’s definitely not exaggerating for dramatic effect, and he genuinely wants that person to commit self die. You’ve solved the case!

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Do you have an example of this? Last time I checked the internet has this thing called free speech.
Rags said something cunty about the people praising the song in the trailer. Then someone in chat said something like “Is it just me or is Rags super cunty today?” Rags responded, “Oh, gee, I don’t know… kill yourself?” So you’re right, what you’re seeing here is Rags being his authentic self, he’s definitely not exaggerating for dramatic effect, and he genuinely wants that person to commit self die. You’ve solved the case!

If you have to resort to "free speech" you're grasping at straws. I also don't think you understand the argument. People are saying that the Efap crew are the ones who are overly critical of what others can say because they are objectively doing their videos wrong.

That's also what people are saying the issue is. It's one thing if you're shooting the shit with your friends and making fun of bad videos. I think that's what Efap started off as. But it hasn't been that in awhile, with the crew trying to pass off what they do as serious work/film critiques. It's also incredibly boring because they really have nothing significant to add to any conversation. A big reason why they're such subpar reviewers is they have no standards. They pretty consistently fall into "rules for thee but not for me" territory. They're fine being objective when they dislike something, but try and apply the same logic to something they like/praise and all of a sudden those standards don't apply.

As for Rags, I mean, yeah, he is being his authentic self. Sure, I doubt he wants the person to kill himself, but as you said, he was saying something cunty, then responded with something cunty. It's almost like his authentic self is a cunt. I guess that's also another example of them not being particularly great at reviewing anything, instead of responding to criticism or trying to explain why it's bad that people have a positive response to sound in a trailer, he just makes a whiny comment. Which, again, if you're just riffing on a trailer, is fine, but if you want to pass your channel/self off as being a reviewer, you're not doing a great job. Hell, now that I think about it, it's even an example of them going against their review standards, since they constantly say they only focus on the plot/dialogue and look down on people who positively respond to things like acting/effect/sounds, so why even comment about it at all since, by their standards, it doesn't objectively matter.

If you still enjoy listening to them, more power to you. But you're probably not going to enjoy the posts here. And, hey, if you want to try to defend them, feel free. But, and I type this with absolutely no malice, you gotta bring something a little stronger to the table.

 

[You're Not Canon]

Haven't seen Kenobi yet but I'm sure this doesn't involve pedantic nitpicking whatsoever.

Contrivances are a necessary weasel? Doesn't this kinda contradict their standards? That they shouldn't criticize a contrivance as long as it serves the narrative? Not that they apply their "x is a contrivance, therefore bad" consistently. They'll shit on ATLA having "contrivances" but not for content they like, like the MCU Spider-Man films.

"Do you agree that X is contrived?"
"I mean... it could happen."

 

[TheClorax]

Haven't seen Kenobi yet but I'm sure this doesn't involve pedantic nitpicking whatsoever.

Contrivances are a necessary weasel? Doesn't this kinda contradict their standards? That they shouldn't criticize a contrivance as long as it serves the narrative? Not that they apply their "x is a contrivance, therefore bad" consistently. They'll shit on ATLA having "contrivances" but not for content they like, like the MCU Spider-Man films.

"Do you agree that X is contrived?"
"I mean... it could happen."
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I get watching something to knock on it, I watch RWBY ffs, but damn if you aren’t even having fun making fun of something why even bother?
Sounds like MR here’s just exhausted that they have to watch something they can absolutely stop.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I get watching something to knock on it, I watch RWBY ffs, but damn if you aren’t even having fun making fun of something why even bother?
Sounds like MR here’s just exhausted that they have to watch something they can absolutely stop.

That was part of why I continued to watch EFAP when they moved onto the review phase. They were either covering stuff I had already seen and thought was bad/a few guilty pleasures I watched because they hit "so bad it's good" territory. But unlike them, I knew when to pull the plug when something stopped being funny, both in the sense that I didn't get any joy out of watching how bad it was, or criticizing how bad it was.

I know it isn't the fairest example in the world, but Red Letter Media is just such a solid comparison on how to do it right. With Best of the Worst, they're not afraid to turn things off early or switch tapes when there's nothing funny to work with. They also don't try and stretch coverage to be as long as possible with the stuff they do review, sometimes something gets a short segment, other times there's a lot more to say. Even with Half in the Bag, they've mentioned before how they were going to do episodes on stuff that was notoriously bad, but they ultimately decided not to because there wasn't really much to say beyond "it's bad" or they weren't saying anything that hadn't been said hundreds of times already. And with some of the newer stuff that they were covering, they knew when to stop, as with Star Trek Discovery.

EFAP also has a problem where they seemingly go out of their way to ignore all the recommendations for good things to review. And, hey, I get it, you can't review every single show/movie your audience suggests. But at the same time, when they're complaining about the lack of any good content, it stands out a little more that they're just going out of there way to pick bad things that they have nothing new to comment about. Saying "bad writing" for 7 hours each week only carries you so far.

 

[Wisteria]

I look at Jay's twitter, and...

https://twitter.com/JayExci/status/1529245899460861952

I'm looking forward to the day when Jay inevitably bites the bullet and goes full troon. I wanna see how the rest of the EFAP crew, their friends and their audience react to not being allowed to use male pronouns.

 

[Gloria From Pokemon Sword]

I'm looking forward to the day when Jay inevitably bites the bullet and goes full troon. I wanna see how the rest of the EFAP crew, their friends and their audience react to not being allowed to use male pronouns.

I think it's time for a new Thread Poll. If I may suggest what can be voted on:

What is more likely to happen first in the EFAP Expanded Universe?​

• MauLer finishes The Force Awakens Critique​
• MauLer abandons The Force Awakens Critique (softly or outright announces it)​
• Rags accidentally (or intentionally, for max degeneracy) upload porn of his avatar to a major EFAP hot spot​
• Jay actually transitions instead of just saying he is and they get in hot water over it​
• They have to defend Jay for "de-transitioning" (meaning he decides/realizes he is a dude after all, which is a no-no in most progressive circles).​
• Fringey develops a personality​
• They try and fail to "objectively" criticize anime and WeebTube actively mocks them​
• MauLer tries to make EFAP Gaming more prominent as they stop having fun with film critiques​
• A Ghost of EFAP Past (Wolf, Chaseface, Jay's totally-not-grooming dms, etc) comes back to haunt them.​

 

[Steven Aryan Universe]

I'm looking forward to the day when Jay inevitably bites the bullet and goes full troon. I wanna see how the rest of the EFAP crew, their friends and their audience react to not being allowed to use male pronouns.

Jay is so weird, like, some of his content is okay for the most part? But just the transition came out of nowhere if you don't look at his twitter or all the EFAPs

 

[Shieldman]

I think it's time for a new Thread Poll. If I may suggest what can be voted on:

What is more likely to happen first in the EFAP Expanded Universe?​

• MauLer finishes The Force Awakens Critique​
• MauLer abandons The Force Awakens Critique (softly or outright announces it)​
• Rags accidentally (or intentionally, for max degeneracy) upload porn of his avatar to a major EFAP hot spot​
• Jay actually transitions instead of just saying he is and they get in hot water over it​
• They have to defend Jay for "de-transitioning" (meaning he decides/realizes he is a dude after all, which is a no-no in most progressive circles).​
• Fringey develops a personality​
• They try and fail to "objectively" criticize anime and WeebTube actively mocks them​
• MauLer tries to make EFAP Gaming more prominent as they stop having fun with film critiques​
• A Ghost of EFAP Past (Wolf, Chaseface, Jay's totally-not-grooming dms, etc) comes back to haunt them.​

Here are some other scenarios:
- Southpaw and SK come back with GayOps to take Mauler down.
- The difference between their leftward and conservative fanbase reaches critical mass, battle lines are drawn, Mauler is forced to make a choice.
- A random dumb debate grows out of hand, forcing a host and/or guest to leave permanently.
- Mauler shows in person to the next FNT live meeting, something retarded happens.

 

[You're Not Canon]

Here are some other scenarios:
- Southpaw and SK come back with GayOps to take Mauler down.
- The difference between their leftward and conservative fanbase reaches critical mass, battle lines are drawn, Mauler is forced to make a choice.
- A random dumb debate grows out of hand, forcing a host and/or guest to leave permanently.
- Mauler shows in person to the next FNT live meeting, something retarded happens.

The last two might certainly happen a lot quicker than the others, no offense to Gloria. A debate surrounding a sacred cow could turn nasty. Afterall, look what happened to Southpaw's relationship with EFAP. With FNT, it's inevitable. Not to mention, Gary being undefire for calling others consoomers while simultaneously lining his walls with action figures. Only a matter of time before something bad happens and MauLer gets associated with them.

 

[Shieldman]

Destiny as guest, well well well...

 

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

Destiny as guest, well well well...

"We're not political" *has breadtuber Destiny on* what a bunch of faggots. I guess the politics grift is still starting lol
As someone that watched a lot of his stuff when I was younger, I'm sad to see Jon CJG still going on, and now on with fucking DesTINY.

 

[Elescondido]

Destiny as guest, well well well...

Shocking nobody , Sargon likes to simp for destiny ocasionally and Hassan hates Destiny
So it was only a matter of time

The funny part is that they went in this whole autistic crusade against react streamers and then invited destiny who is probably the worse of all in that regard

 

[Gloria From Pokemon Sword]

Shocking nobody , Sargon likes to simp for destiny ocasionally and Hassan hates Destiny
So it was only a matter of time

The funny part is that they went in this whole autistic crusade against react streamers and then invited destiny who is probably the worse of all in that regard

Jay is the only reason they did that to begin with. Without him sperging over Hassan, they would have never cared (especially since they're reactors themselves).

 

[crab fucker]

Oh boy my favoritest golden boy, Destiny! This can't possibly go wrong for them...

 

[Passing Through Town]

Or he is just an antisocial weirdo

I'd argue that antisocial weirdos are typically like Rags and Mauler in that they're usually quite talkative online, at least when they have their anonymity. I'm not even sure why E;R came on, unless they paid him or something. I certainly wouldn't want to participate in EFAP without being compensated.

 

[Gloria From Pokemon Sword]

"We're not political" *has breadtuber Destiny on* what a bunch of faggots. I guess the politics grift is still starting lol
As someone that watched a lot of his stuff when I was younger, I'm sad to see Jon CJG still going on, and now on with fucking DesTINY.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having Destiny appear on principle, at least in theory. Now, if Destiny started political sperging (didn't watch the stream myself), that'd be more on him than anything.

However, in regards to a "political grift", I have an idea: Ya think MauLer might use other YouTubers like Sargon and Destiny who are more into politics to justify having opinions he agrees with being shared without them being linked back to him? Just a thought that crossed my mind, but this kind of "kidding the square" is (while unlikely) not out of character for him, so to say. No different than him letting Rags and Fringy say awful things about the people he commentates on so he can be the neutral good boy.