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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Then you haven't been paying attention. This whole war is them sperging about Nazis and continuing their glorious war against Nazism.
They're characterizing the various far right groups in the military, like Azov, as Nazis, and they're correct in doing so since they self identify as such. Given that they were actually invaded by the OG Nazis, it's not a stretch but you and a few others here are literally sperging about WW2 logistics and battles, not the current conflict.
 
They're characterizing the various far right groups in the military, like Azov, as Nazis, and they're correct in doing so since they self identify as such. Given that they were actually invaded by the OG Nazis, it's not a stretch
Azov are far from the rulers of Ukraine. Especially when Ukraine is led by a Jew. The Azov Battalion even accepts Jews into their ranks. They are not Nazis in any sense of the word; the most they do is larp as Nazis, but they're so far from actual Nazism that actual Nazis would reject them.

but you and a few others here are literally sperging about WW2 logistics and battles, not the current conflict.
The Russians do that too. Russiaboos claim that they could have won against the Nazis without western assistance. But I noted how even former Soviet leaders like Khrushchev and Stalin knew that was false.
 
Azov are far from the rulers of Ukraine. Especially when Ukraine is led by a Jew. The Azov Battalion even accepts Jews into their ranks. They are not Nazis in any sense of the word; the most they do is larp as Nazis, but they're so far from actual Nazism that actual Nazis would reject them.
No, they are self declared Nazis. They not only state they admire Hitler and the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, they do it on social media images and on videos they post themselves, so there's no doubt about it. Azov is far from the only far right group in Ukraine (which by the way were placed into the regular army as a unit), Right Sektor and Slobada are just two more. I agree they're a joke since the OG Nazis considered Ukrainians Negervolk, niggers, but they say they're Nazis all the same.
The Russians do that too. Russiaboos claim that they could have won against the Nazis without western assistance. But I noted how even former Soviet leaders like Khrushchev and Stalin knew that was false.
I don't see that on KF, except perhaps in a passing reference, particularly about weaponry. Mostly everyone is discussing the current conflict, not a war that ended nearly 80 years ago. I really only see it when people discuss some of the materiel, or about some regions Ukrainians collaborated with the SS, like Galicia (which is now in Poland kek).
 
No, they are self declared Nazis. They not only state they admire Hitler and the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, they do it on social media images and on videos they post themselves, so there's no doubt about it. Azov is far from the only far right group in Ukraine (which by the way were placed into the regular army as a unit), Right Sektor and Slobada are just two more. I agree they're a joke since the OG Nazis considered Ukrainians Negervolk, niggers, but they say they're Nazis all the same.
Then explain to me why they accept Jews or take orders from Jews. If they were actual Nazis, they'd be on no-one's side in this war, since one side is run by a Commieboo, and the other is run by a Jew. An actual Nazi would just sit this war out, pop a bag of popcorn, and watch the untermenschen blow each others' brains out.

I don't see that on KF, except perhaps in a passing reference, particularly about weaponry. Mostly everyone is discussing the current conflict, not a war that ended nearly 80 years ago. I really only see it when people discuss some of the materiel, or about some regions Ukrainians collaborated with the SS, like Galicia (which is now in Poland kek).
No, that's what sparked the debate in the first place. Some Russiaboo insisted that they would have won even without western help, which is an idea that even Stalin and Khrushchev found laughable.
 
Then explain to me why they accept Jews or take orders from Jews. If they were actual Nazis, they'd be on no-one's side in this war, since one side is run by a Commieboo, and the other is run by a Jew. An actual Nazi would just sit this war out, pop a bag of popcorn, and watch the untermenschen blow each others' brains out.
I can only give you the rational that an actual Azovite gave me; they are using the jew and the jews, and taking support, particularly financial support, from anyone, including jews. I agree no actual self respecting National Socialist would do that but then their heroes considered them literal Negervolk so they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.
No, that's what sparked the debate in the first place. Some Russiaboo insisted that they would have won even without western help, which is an idea that even Stalin and Khrushchev found laughable.
Russia itself would win the war like it had done in the past by literally freezing invaders to death, Stalin and Khrushchev were irrelevant tbh.
 
Without Hungary and Romania, the USSR could have focused more troops on the German border - the Soviet-Axis border would be much shorter. Without the threat from Japan, larger amounts of experienced troops could be moved from the Far East.
Except they actually did pretty much strip the Far East bare aside from everything necessary to deter the Kwantung Army from its usual shenanigans... a threat which massively decreased as the war with the USA dragged on and it got stripped of men and equipment. Where do you think all of those equipped and ready "Siberian" troops in late '41 came from? Stalin's ass? They knew thanks to various spies that by September of '41 Japan had its hands full with preparing for the war against the USA and wasn't considering an attack on the USSR in the slightest.

For Ukraine stuff, Germany continues to cuck, to nobody's surprise.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1530652831539249153
Germany has minimized arms supplies to #Ukraine over the past nine weeks, Welt am Sonntag. It is noted that during all this time, #Germany transferred to #Kyiv only two batches of weapons and equipment.
With allies like them, who needs the Russians as enemies?
 
CIA tipping their hand a little.
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I can only give you the rational that an actual Azovite gave me; they are using the jew and the jews, and taking support, particularly financial support, from anyone, including jews. I agree no actual self respecting National Socialist would do that but then their heroes considered them literal Negervolk so they aren't t the sharpest knives in the drawer.
[Citation needed] That's not something I can confirm or deny; all I see is that the Azov Battalion lets Jews in. I can understand doing business with Jews on the side, but to let them into the group.......they're not Nazis. Also, Nazi ideology is strictly Anglo-Teutonic. They would not see Slavs as equals.

Russia itself would win the war like it had done in the past by literally freezing invaders to death, Stalin and Khrushchev were irrelevant tbh.
Stalin was the guy in charge of Russia, and he himself confirms that without western aid, Germany would have defeated them.

That would be the Germany that was busy fighting the two-front war with the USSR and the west, mind you, not a Germany that could focus all Axis resources on Europe against the Soviets.

For Ukraine stuff, Germany continues to cuck, to nobody's surprise.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1530652831539249153

With allies like them, who needs the Russians as enemies?
Ukraine can win this war with just the USA, Poland, France, and the British as her allies. And Germany has been ruled by cucks for quite some time; it's not surprising that they'd pussy out in this affair.

Even their new "Nazi" party is just full of dorks:

Returning to the war, here's a video confirming the death of a top Russian air force officer:

A $5 million Russian missile destroys a Ukrainian toilet:

Russian vehicular losses continue to mount:
 
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[Citation needed] That's not something I can confirm or deny; all I see is that the Azov Battalion lets Jews in. I can understand doing business with Jews on the side, but to let them into the group.......they're not Nazis. Also, Nazi ideology is strictly Anglo-Teutonic. They would not see Slavs as equals.
I can only tell you what an Azovite told me after I pointed out precisely that. They are either brainwashed, grifting or are just really that stupid. My money is on the latter.
Stalin was the guy in charge of Russia, and he himself confirms that without western aid, Germany would have defeated them.

That would be the Germany that was busy fighting the two-front war with the USSR and the west, mind you, not a Germany that could focus all Axis resources on Europe against the Soviets.
OK. I doubt anyone is contesting that.
Ukraine can win this war with just the USA and the British as her allies. And Germany has been ruled by cucks for quite some time; it's not surprising that they'd pussy out in this affair.
I disagree. The US is going not only into a recession but a severe depression. Resources are getting scarce, and by that I mean we are running out of weapons to give Ukraine , and have enough to defend ourselves. If you are an American you should more concerned about a third party interfering or hitting America and her assets while our politicians make like Nero and sing the praises of their pet Azovites as America burns. We don't manufacture the electronics needed for our shiny toys, a hostile nation to our interests does. But sure, lets make ourselves vulnerable, and see how fast Ukraine collapses when we aren't there to hold their hands as we fight off the elephant in the room: China.

The UK? lol get real.
Even their new "Nazi" party is just full of dorks:
Yes.
Returning to the war, here's a video confirming the death of a top Russian air force officer:

A $5 million Russian missile destroys a Ukrainian toilet:

Russian vehicular losses continue to mount:
Is this the first war you have followed? I could rattle off a dozen or more ridiculous events from every war, conflict and incident the US military has been involved in. It's like you didn't even see the clusterfuck that was our withdrawal from Afghanistan, down to to Dementia in Chief looking at his watch while the caskets of dead soldiers arrived at Dover AFB, Maybe if a few of those flag officers with a chest full of ribbons had actually fought in Afghanistan it wouldn't have been the disaster it was and if some of those become KIA, well that's what they signed up for.
 
I can only tell you what an Azovite told me after I pointed out precisely that. They are either brainwashed, grifting or are just really that stupid. My money is on the latter.
I believe what I see, and what I see are Jews joining a group that the Russians call Nazis. Which makes the Russian propaganda line sound horribly stupid. It's like calling an organization a white-supremacist group when it rolls out the red carpet for blacks, Mexicans, and Asians.

OK. I doubt anyone is contesting that.
You'd be surprised how many contest it.

I disagree. The US is going not only into a recession but a severe depression. Resources are getting scarce, and by that I mean we are running out of weapons to give Ukraine , and have enough to defend ourselves. If you are an American you should more concerned about a third party interfering or hitting America and her assets while our politicians make like Nero and sing the praises of their pet Azovites as America burns. We don't manufacture the electronics needed for our shiny toys, a hostile nation to our interests does. But sure, lets make ourselves vulnerable, and see how fast Ukraine collapses when we aren't there to hold their hands as we fight off the elephant in the room: China.
Wrong. The American military-industrial complex ships more guns per year than any weapons dealer on the face of the planet. And China is falling apart by the seams; both politically and quite literally. Their army of little emperors couldn't conquer Rhode Island, much less Taiwan, and there's more than enough guns in America's Cold War closet for the Ukrainians to use for years.


Is this the first war you have followed? I could rattle off a dozen or more ridiculous events from every war, conflict and incident the US military has been involved in. It's like you didn't even see the clusterfuck that was our withdrawal from Afghanistan, down to to Dementia in Chief looking at his watch while the caskets of dead soldiers arrived at Dover AFB, Maybe if a few of those flag officers with a chest full of ribbons had actually fought in Afghanistan it wouldn't have been the disaster it was and if some of those become KIA, well that's what they signed up for.
No, that would be the War in Iraq. And again, compared to that, the Russians have done a pretty poor job. The USA controlled the skies over Iraq within a day; it's been months and the Russians are nowhere near total air control. This is beyond incompetent; it is pathetic.
 
I believe what I see, and what I see are Jews joining a group that the Russians call Nazis. Which makes the Russian propaganda line sound horribly stupid. It's like calling an organization a white-supremacist group when it rolls out the red carpet for blacks, Mexicans, and Asians.
You are free to stan Azov as much as you like, no one is going to duct tape you to a pole and whip you here.
You'd be surprised how many contest it.
I know actual Russian-Americans IRL and never hear them even bring it up but ymmv
Wrong. The American military-industrial complex ships more guns per year than any weapons dealer on the face of the planet. And China is falling apart by the seams; both politically and quite literally. Their army of little emperors couldn't conquer Rhode Island, much less Taiwan, and there's more than enough guns in America's Cold War closet for the Ukrainians to use for years.

Yep your YouTube video mean nothing. Weaponry isn't merely firearms it's materiel, which includes tanks, planes, vehicles and munitions, And we have to have trained soldiers to field them. We have to have different kinds of ammunition for tanks, planes, ship and submarines. We need mechanics to service them. We're losing soldiers, not recruiting them.And we need replacement parts, which right now means China, which is pretty fucking stupid. And that's your opinion of China, its not an informed assessment of their military capabilities.
No, that would be the War in Iraq. And again, compared to that, the Russians have done a pretty poor job. The USA controlled the skies over Iraq within a day; it's been months and the Russians are nowhere near total air control. This is beyond incompetent; it is pathetic.
If you're suggesting Russia should have soften up Ukraine by pounding it with bombing runs all night, every night, for a month, then what you're saying is they should have killed a couple of million Ukrainians right away, so apparently Russia has far more respect for human life than you do. Russia seems to be doing well as it is so I think they were right not to go with the American "Kill em all let God sort em out" approach.

I think you should read up on the conflicts in this list here:
to see some of the blunders we've been involved in just the last 50 years.
 
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