Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Walther Springfield]

For some reason, it won't let me reply directly to your post, @Activelo.

For the sexual bit, it's kinda in the middle; while I haven't exactly played the game enough to see it personally, according to several other reviewers that have unlocked the multitude of sexual routes, actual sex apparently isn't shown, the game just does a smash to black whenever the sex actually happens. It's not above describing it, however, and it's not uncommon to show and discuss plenty of sexual elements in the game; characters frequently dirty talk with one another, and plenty of characters young and old are often shoved into situations that could only be described as fetishistic.

 

[deermeat]

>Character is a "Shortstack" (Meme word I've been seeing lately to describe dwarf-height characters that are sexualized)
>generally child-looking design
For once, e6 mods are right, holy shit.
If that character design isn't supposed to be cub then either make an NSFW-only redesign that involves her, you know, looking like an adult? And maybe stop uploading art of her in general on Inkbunny, you know, the furry child porn website?

Exactly, it's more like they are trying to act like a good person who would "never draw that stuff". to avoid backlash. They don't want it labelled "cub" because deep down they know its cub but don't want random people to see them as someone who enjoys that stuff, so they make a big show about it in order to look like the innocent misunderstood victim.

 

[Corn Flakes]

>Character is a "Shortstack" (Meme word I've been seeing lately to describe dwarf-height characters that are sexualized)
>generally child-looking design

Alright, time for some terminology autism.

A shortstack is simply a character that's 1. short and 2. stacked. Meaning: very short but with big tits, and usually also wide hips to go along with them. You can't really have a character with that sort of build look like a child.

Spoiler: A classic illustrated explanation:

Any furry trying to use the term "shortstack" to refer to childlike characters is just trying to pretend they're not into cub and hiding behind the term.

I'll take my puzzle pieces now, thank you.

 

[deermeat]

Alright, time for some terminology autism.

A shortstack is simply a character that's 1. short and 2. stacked. Meaning: very short but with big tits, and usually also wide hips to go along with them. You can't really have a character with that sort of build look like a child.

Spoiler: A classic illustrated explanation:

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Any furry trying to use the term "shortstack" to refer to childlike characters is just trying to pretend they're not into cub and hiding behind the term.

I'll take my puzzle pieces now, thank you.

Thanks for the information, here's your puzzle piece

 

[Mikoyan]

Alright, time for some terminology autism.

A shortstack is simply a character that's 1. short and 2. stacked. Meaning: very short but with big tits, and usually also wide hips to go along with them. You can't really have a character with that sort of build look like a child.

Spoiler: A classic illustrated explanation:

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Any furry trying to use the term "shortstack" to refer to childlike characters is just trying to pretend they're not into cub and hiding behind the term.

I'll take my puzzle pieces now, thank you.

I just want to say, Baalbuddy is amazing.

 

[SandyCat]

Exactly, it's more like they are trying to act like a good person who would "never draw that stuff". to avoid backlash. They don't want it labelled "cub" because deep down they know its cub but don't want random people to see them as someone who enjoys that stuff, so they make a big show about it in order to look like the innocent misunderstood victim.

Prior to about 2013 most artists drew what ever they wanted but from 2013 onward there's been a ever increasing number of these types trying to pull the "my 4 foot flat chested childlike character is actually 23 I promise officer!"

I think most of it has to do with monetization since a lot of mainstream payment sites don't allow underage stuff and the few that do like subscribe star have much smaller userbases they can shill their cub porn to.

Zaush is a great example of this and he somehow seems to get away with it on Patreon.

I don't know how he gets away with it, one artist I follow had their patreon locked for days while patreon confirmed one of their characters is of age meanwhile Zaush has been outed using real life children in swimsuits as art references but both Patreon and his fans still don't care.

 

[the_secret]

the important part is the description saying that the characters in it are over 18.

18 what, months?

 

[Activelo]

This image of a pedophilia pride flag being burned was the third most popular post on e621 yesterday and the comments are quite something. (A)


As per usual, archive didn't catch all of the downvoted comments, so I took screenshots.

Spoiler: Screenshots

 

[Corn Flakes]

This image of a pedophilia pride flag being burned was the third most popular post on e621 yesterday and the comments are quite something. (A)
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As per usual, archive didn't catch all of the downvoted comments, so I took screenshots.

Spoiler: Screenshots

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That's nice and all but... what about getting rid of the actual pedophiles in your community instead of defending them just because they're popular/draw shit you like?

Slacktivism at its finest, everybody.

 

[deermeat]

This image of a pedophilia pride flag being burned was the third most popular post on e621 yesterday and the comments are quite something. (A)
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As per usual, archive didn't catch all of the downvoted comments, so I took screenshots.

Spoiler: Screenshots

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Was that art drawn in response to the cub situation? If so, LMAO.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

I found this website, it's so absurd but they seem to be taking it 100% serious. Furries wanting to use science to turn themselves into animals. I'm not shitting you. They even claim to be a registered nonprofit charity and take patreon donations https://freedomofform.org/

These sorts of things are only interesting if they're written from the perspective of it being a warning or metaphor against trying any insane genetic shit like this out. As already mentioned by some here, Isle of Doctor Moreau is a good example but there are others out there with similar concepts. It's an interesting theme to explore but only when it's applied from a dystopian/horror perspective, or at the very least with a great deal of suspicion.

Edit: The most interesting spin on this I've seen is District 9, though in that film the normally-impossible seeming body-changing technology is due to a type of alien engineering foreign or not-yet understood to humans, and even then the focus on the story isn't Wikus becoming a prawn so much as the metaphorical ramifications of his change and the themes of how humanity encounters/deals with an introduced other we have little reference for on Earth.

Edit 2: These types of stories are really, really fun for writing satire.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I don't know how he gets away with it, one artist I follow had their patreon locked for days while patreon confirmed one of their characters is of age meanwhile Zaush has been outed using real life children in swimsuits as art references but both Patreon and his fans still don't care.

Anyone who's still a fan of him knows his proclivities and enjoys it. Of course they don't care

Pretty hard to hide behind size differences when you sketch something with the guy saying "had a feeling you wanted that middle school pussy fucked."

 

[Walther Springfield]

Zaush is a great example of this and he somehow seems to get away with it on Patreon.

I don't know how he gets away with it, one artist I follow had their patreon locked for days while patreon confirmed one of their characters is of age meanwhile Zaush has been outed using real life children in swimsuits as art references but both Patreon and his fans still don't care.

Christ, haven't heard anything about that fucker in... what, a decade now? I honestly thought Zaush just fell out of the spotlight completely; no idea he'd been doing any of that shit.

Seriously, how the hell did I miss this?

Edit 2: These types of stories are really, really fun for writing satire.

Ah, the good-old "real furries created by the magic of 'Science'" shit; been seeing stuff like that since the 90s, and it never gets old to mock. I've actually tried to sit down and write some satire of that shit myself - never could finish it, as the fandom's obsession with sex shit kept making me nauseous, but it's still fun as hell to mock. Seriously, make an alt on Reddit, and start poking holes in the furries' logic; watch their heads explode from seeing something outside of their little bubble.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

Christ, haven't heard anything about that fucker in... what, a decade now? I honestly thought Zaush just fell out of the spotlight completely; no idea he'd been doing any of that shit.

Seriously, how the hell did I miss this?

Ah, the good-old "real furries created by the magic of 'Science'" shit; been seeing stuff like that since the 90s, and it never gets old to mock. I've actually tried to sit down and write some satire of that shit myself - never could finish it, as the fandom's obsession with sex shit kept making me nauseous, but it's still fun as hell to mock. Seriously, make an alt on Reddit, and start poking holes in the furries' logic; watch their heads explode from seeing something outside of their little bubble.

Well considering the Isle of Doctor Moreau dates back to 1896 I'd say it's a much older trope. I'm a writer as well and it's quite entertaining to write how becoming an animal-human hybrid would certainly suck. The changing process alone would be literal torture. Like, I can't completely place it out of the realm of possibility (any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic, after all) but even if it were possible these furfags would find out the hard way that it's best left as a fantasy and not a reality.

 

[Dahmer]

Same can

I honestly thought Zaush just fell out of the spotlight completely; no idea he'd been doing any of that shit.

He effectively has since the scandal of him referencing 12 year olds as "fuckable" happened. He hasn't posted to FA in years, and while he has a presence on Twitter it's rare to see him applauded or brought up as an artist to look up to. You'll still find people ripping into him for drawing what looks like underage girls getting fucked under the guise of sizeplay.

 

[Walther Springfield]

Well considering the Isle of Doctor Moreau dates back to 1896 I'd say it's a much older trope. I'm a writer as well and it's quite entertaining to write how becoming an animal-human hybrid would certainly suck. The changing process alone would be literal torture. Like, I can't completely place it out of the realm of possibility (any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic, after all) but even if it were possible these furfags would find out the hard way that it's best left as a fantasy and not a reality.

It's like I said earlier, when doing those reviews over bad furry games; the fandom seems to be disconnected from reality. I mean, anyone trying to portray shit like Changed and Flexible Survival, as well as Hc Svnt Dracones if you pay attention, as viable and realistic paths that the future might end up taking are clearly fucked beyond help. Anyone that watches someone get turned into an animal, especially if said transformation is accurately described as body horror, and still outright calls said process as "sexy" needs to be fucking sterilized; keep them the fuck away from our kids, and let the sane portion of humanity actually live in peace.

On the flip side; like myself and you both said, writing satire of furry shit is the most entertaining thing imaginable; hell, bit of a confession here, but I'm in the middle of outlining some satire for that fucking Housamo game I posted a review of earlier. It's legit entertaining to mock the fandom's obsessions with gay sex and bestiality; give me the puzzle pieces and TMI stuff if you want, but I'll be fucked if mocking some of the most fucked up writing I've seen in years isn't the most fun I've had in a while.

 

[TFT-A9]

Same can

He effectively has since the scandal of him referencing 12 year olds as "fuckable" happened. He hasn't posted to FA in years, and while he has a presence on Twitter it's rare to see him applauded or brought up as an artist to look up to. You'll still find people ripping into him for drawing what looks like underage girls getting fucked under the guise of sizeplay.

sometimes I wonder if Zaush's actual fetish is pissing people off

 

[MarineN*423543]

Zaush is a great example of this and he somehow seems to get away with it on Patreon.

I don't know how he gets away with it, one artist I follow had their patreon locked for days while patreon confirmed one of their characters is of age meanwhile Zaush has been outed using real life children in swimsuits as art references but both Patreon and his fans still don't care.

Suspsicious juuuuuust like twicht only being mad when you mouth talk women

It's like I said earlier, when doing those reviews over bad furry games; the fandom seems to be disconnected from reality. I mean, anyone trying to portray shit like Changed and Flexible Survival, as well as Hc Svnt Dracones if you pay attention, as viable and realistic paths that the future might end up taking are clearly fucked beyond help. Anyone that watches someone get turned into an animal, especially if said transformation is accurately described as body horror, and still outright calls said process as "sexy" needs to be fucking sterilized; keep them the fuck away from our kids, and let the sane portion of humanity actually live in peace.

On the flip side; like myself and you both said, writing satire of furry shit is the most entertaining thing imaginable; hell, bit of a confession here, but I'm in the middle of outlining some satire for that fucking Housamo game I posted a review of earlier. It's legit entertaining to mock the fandom's obsessions with gay sex and bestiality; give me the puzzle pieces and TMI stuff if you want, but I'll be fucked if mocking some of the most fucked up writing I've seen in years isn't the most fun I've had in a while.

Gives me a idea, imagine a world where anthro people human something lives among (US!) people and furries (weirdos wanting to be them) are looked down like otakus , just like the word otaku was created in japan to mock them would be funny if the non human population had their own word to insult furries

 

[Noebel]

On the flip side; like myself and you both said, writing satire of furry shit is the most entertaining thing imaginable; hell, bit of a confession here, but I'm in the middle of outlining some satire for that fucking Housamo game I posted a review of earlier. It's legit entertaining to mock the fandom's obsessions with gay sex and bestiality; give me the puzzle pieces and TMI stuff if you want, but I'll be fucked if mocking some of the most fucked up writing I've seen in years isn't the most fun I've had in a while.

That reminded me. There's Goodbuye Volcano High. I can't tell for sure, if it is a furry game, or just happens to have anthropomorfic dinosaurs, and nobody can, because it's still not out, despite being shown somewhere around the first PS5 game announcement. But that's besides the point. Some dude from 4chan put together a parody VN in two month. And, as it seems to me, channers shitposting constitutes up to 99% of any discource about this game these days. This fact is the funniest shit I saw since this guy

Spoiler: grafted himself onto a pickle

 

[Some Badger]

As someone who has done work with this "fetish" in the past, all I can say is that this kind of shit is mortifying. It's an extremely autistic fetish, yes, but it can do no wrong, I used it for escapism purposes. However a lot of people who enjoy it are real fucked up and really DO think they're cartoon characters or something; usually these are the gay sexual ones. Others legitimately believe that they NEED to be something else in real life due to substance abuse and heavy hallucinations; the kinds of mentally ill subhumans who would have orgies in elevators in the 90s or be obsessed with cartoons to the point of stalking voice actors. Unnecessary body modification and surgery in general is absolutely terrifying, because it implies that someone was convinced, or that they convinced themselves that they were not good enough and that they can really be something else- perhaps even bullied or harassed as is common with Twitter and Discord. Sane people use fetishes and fantasies to get away from real life, not to coexist with it.

The separation between fiction and reality is non-existent for some people, and it really does show, and combined with the extreme decline in American mental health, you get shit like this that reads like an Onion article.

I think you might be reading a little too heavily into TF coomers. From observation alone, I suspect that the ones who heavily into the fetish (to the point that everything they post on Twitter is tied into transformation and super uncomfortable to read) because they know on some intrinsic level that they're physically repugnant nerds who would rather have the technological means to become their Perfect Ten fursona instead of putting in the effort to clean themselves up.

You know, kinda like trannies but without the part where you cut your dick off.