Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

Holy mother of fucking walltext. Thats remarkable, to write so many words and have half of them wrong, knowingly or unknowingly.

 

[Wy4M]

Some pictures of Petro Poroshenko having a lovely chat with some border guards have been released, and speculation is running wild on what's going on with him. A lot of people are claiming he's been arrested for trying to flee to Poland, while others say he's just going to attend a NATO summit and is doing perfectly fine.

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I wonder if he traveled with his 'Bandera-mobil'


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"In Mariupol, on the flash memory of Azov journalist Oleg Volnov, archival footage was found showing minors who were persuaded by Azov members to take drugs and shout Nazi slogans. Many of these children ended up as Azov recruits who were later trained in training camps."

https://archive.ph/aPG2L

"The next videos from the hard drive of Azov journalist Oleg Volnov, the flash drive was found in Mariupol by journalists and contains footage of kids being indoctrinated into Nazism while being given drugs. And of violence against homeless people.
Here you can see, how joung Azovs are practicing violence with homeless guys..."

https://archive.ph/P6WCw

Edit - forgot to add this one:

Spoiler: It starts with that one hit but before you know it...

 

[The Foldless Brain]

The much-battered enemy continues his cowardly advance. Almost verbatim now.

 

[Wy4M]

The much-battered enemy continues his cowardly advance. Almost verbatim now.
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It's not even sure that it's Putin who is inflicting unspeakable suffering.

https://archive.ph/OQvoU

But if it's him then he's losing his sight & given just three years to live:

https://archive.ph/EpThY

Note that these were tweeted within 2.5 hours

 

[Elbereth]

The best way to tell Russia to go fuck itself would have been to become independent of them years ago. More should do and should have done that

The problem is, nobody believed this would happen before war. Russia was by large integrated to western Europe economically and by some extend politically. Russia was member of Council of Europe, France and Germany have high economic ties to Russia. And of course gas.

Everybody believed "We will trade, we will be friends. That way nobody has incentive to go to war with each other". Even Ukraine, after annexation of Crimea and war in Donbass had russian embassy and traded a lot with Russia. They only sever diplomatic relations after 24.02.

 

[Su-27 Flanker-B]

It's not even sure that it's Putin who is inflicting unspeakable suffering.
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https://archive.ph/OQvoU

But if it's him then he's losing his sight & given just three years to live:
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https://archive.ph/EpThY

Note that these were tweeted within 2.5 hours

Honestly at this point i really wish him hitlers level of plot armor. Motherfucker survived so many attempts at his life.

 

[Elbereth]

• Ukraine didn't want separatist, majority ethnic Russian (culturally ethnic imo but not important) regions to go do their own thing
  • They send in the military to prevent this
  • Meanwhile Russia is doling out some passports as they tend to do in cases like this

So in other words, Russia amplified regional conflict in Ukraine in order to destabilize it.

Aidan, I see you transformation to vatnik is fully completed, but can't you see that this conflict is essentially manufactured by Russia? That they did everything in their power to break Ukraininan coercion. Why do you think they are handing out russian passports in contested territory?

There were a lot of things they could do to solve conflict about ethnic russian in ukraine. They could use diplomacy. They could ask some third party for mediation. Instead they used brute force. Why do you think they invaded Ukraine, instead of talking?

They started this invasion, because they though they could easily won. They repeat their lies about how Ukraine is not an independent nation, they have no identity, they are just Russians. They repeat it so much they started believing it. It won't even be a war, it will be special military operation! Ukraine will welcome them with flowers! There are countless video recording of Russia propaganda talking heads speaking about how they are going to take Kiev in 2 days, 3 days and 5 days.

[You can use auto translated english subtitles to get the meaning]

At first they wanted to take Kiev, then half of Ukraine, up to Dniepr. They they couldn't do that so land passage to Crimea and complete territory of Luhansk and Donbass. Why do they wanted to take Kiev, or half of Ukraine if their objective was just to protect ethnic Russian? Because Russian minority was a smokescreen from the beginning!

But you will probably tell me that I'm biased and this is somehow magic spell that will make all arguments that you don't understand or are conflicting with your worldview invalid.

 

[Wy4M]

Honestly at this point i really wish him hitlers level of plot armor. Motherfucker survived so many attempts at his life.

There are 18 Putins. At least.


Do not spread this news!

Edit: In 2015 one of them died

Also in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.

 

[White_N]

There were a lot of things they could do to solve conflict about ethnic russian in ukraine. They could use diplomacy. They could ask some third party for mediation. Instead they used brute force. Why do you think they invaded Ukraine, instead of talking?

Are you by any chance have autism?
Minsk agreements

Minsk Protocol, was drafted in 2014 by the Trilateral Contact Group on Ukraine, consisting of Ukraine, Russia, and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe with mediation by the leaders of France and Germany in the so-called Normandy Format

 

[Elbereth]

Are you by any chance have autism?
Minsk agreements

And Russia fucking violated minsk agreement?

https://editorials.voa.gov/a/violations-of-minsk-agreement-continue/2696728.html

Holly fuck, you are really dumb No, no Russia really tried diplomacy, by breaking their own agreement.

 

[ProfessionalRookie]

Tell that to the Kharkiv.

You mean where hundreds of russians were being arrested for treason?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_E8dvyaOI

Terrible example on your part.

 

[White_N]

And Russia fucking violated minsk agreement?

https://editorials.voa.gov/a/violations-of-minsk-agreement-continue/2696728.html

Holly fuck, you are really dumb No, no Russia really tried diplomacy, by breaking their own agreement.

Throw in a few more articles. They are very "interesting."

In the meantime, think about why, after the Minsk Agreements were signed on September 5, 2014, on July 1, Poroshenko officially announced an "anti-terrorist operation."

The situation in Debaltseve happened in 2015.

According to the Minsk agreements, the parties had to withdraw heavy weapons from the existing line of contact, but at the same time, both sides of the conflict had their own vision of Debaltseve: the DPR and LPR considered Debaltseve as their internal territory, where Ukrainian troops were surrounded, while the Ukrainian authorities insisted on the unconditional implementation of the first paragraph of the ceasefire agreements, claiming that the troops were not surrounded and fully controlled the territory.

On February 21, after the end of the fighting in the Debaltseve area and the withdrawal of Ukrainian units from there, the DPR and LPR authorities signed a plan for the withdrawal of heavy weapons and began it on February 24. On February 26, the Ukrainian side also began the withdrawal of heavy weapons.

On March 1, the DPR and LPR announced the completion of the withdrawal of heavy weapons under the supervision of OSCE representatives.

On May 13, the Deputy Chairman of the OSCE SMM, Alexander Hug, stated the non-fulfillment of the agreement by both sides.

 

[Elbereth]

Throw in a few more articles. They are very "interesting."

In the meantime, think about why, after the Minsk Agreements were signed on September 5, 2014, on July 1, Poroshenko officially announced an "anti-terrorist operation."


The situation in Debaltseve happened in 2015.

According to the Minsk agreements, the parties had to withdraw heavy weapons from the existing line of contact, but at the same time, both sides of the conflict had their own vision of Debaltseve: the DPR and LPR considered Debaltseve as their internal territory, where Ukrainian troops were surrounded, while the Ukrainian authorities insisted on the unconditional implementation of the first paragraph of the ceasefire agreements, claiming that the troops were not surrounded and fully controlled the territory.

On February 21, after the end of the fighting in the Debaltseve area and the withdrawal of Ukrainian units from there, the DPR and LPR authorities signed a plan for the withdrawal of heavy weapons and began it on February 24. On February 26, the Ukrainian side also began the withdrawal of heavy weapons.

On March 1, the DPR and LPR announced the completion of the withdrawal of heavy weapons under the supervision of OSCE representatives.

On May 13, the Deputy Chairman of the OSCE SMM, Alexander Hug, stated the non-fulfillment of the agreement by both sides.

I'm sorry but isn't the Poroshenko the same guy Russia tried to present as legitimated leader of Ukraine, instead of Zelensky? Essentially Putin's guy in Ukraine?

 

[White_N]

I'm sorry but isn't the Poroshenko the same guy Russia tried to present as legitimated leader of Ukraine, instead of Zelensky? Essentially Putin's guy in Ukraine?

No. Poroshenko became president almost immediately after the coup against Yanukovych. He supported the resolution of the conflict in the Donbass by armed means, Zelensky was popular precisely as an opponent of Poroshenko when he promised peace. Poroshenko was not in any sense a "Putin guy in Ukraine."

Sort out the dates and actors before you start smugposting

 

[kuuu]

I bet that birb was a Moskal!

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The problem is, nobody believed this would happen before war. Russia was by large integrated to western Europe economically and by some extend politically. Russia was member of Council of Europe, France and Germany have high economic ties to Russia. And of course gas.

That's the thing, up until the tanks actually started rolling in across Ukraine, most of us thought it was simply a power play. Partly because you'd have to be dumb as fuck to start a war in FEBRUARY, partly because supply lines weren't reinforced that hard and partly because it seemed like actual political suicide to actually start invading Ukraine.

I'm still genuinely surprised Russia didn't escalate things first before going tank first into Ukraine. Cutting off the gas would have gone a long way towards giving Russia major leverage in a negotiation, and even a false flag Moscow bombing would have gone a long way towards sympathising with Russia and giving them the justification for a land invasion. They went from 1-100 and as a result sanctions went from 1-100 and now nobody can really escalate more without end of the world tier rammifications.

 

[Elbereth]

The situation in Debaltseve happened in 2015.

On March 1, the DPR and LPR announced the completion of the withdrawal of heavy weapons under the supervision of OSCE representatives.

 

[Elbereth]

Holly shit, Russia just straight up kidnapped and intimidated OSCE observers that have been in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014.


Guys, Russia really tried diplmoacy

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

There were a lot of things they could do to solve conflict about ethnic russian in ukraine. They could use diplomacy. They could ask some third party for mediation. Instead they used brute force. Why do you think they invaded Ukraine, instead of talking?

I'm cool with Russia taking the "lose all the troops and equipment and money and the war" approach.

 

[UVB-76]

You seem to be obsessed with the state of the Eastern Economies

I'm not "obsessed". The conversation was about China being "amused" at the West dumping their stockpiles (which exist to fight Russia anyway) while they're fucking their own economy for no discernible reason.
Then you replied to me with the take that "Chinese don't care about freedom". Mein neger, your argument should be "ackthually they're a command economy so through 12D underwater backgammon they can create wealth even when not doing anything". You'd be wrong, but at least that's an argument that makes sense. As it stands, you just threw a NPC response that seemed like it came from a chat bot that didn't understand the context of my post.

you want to talk about mark ups for the Russians and Shanghai quarantines?

Because the context was China being "amused" at NATO taking outdated shit out of storage that was going to be donated to Africa or some shit in the next 10-15 years.

That the self-sufficient Russians

AHAHAHA

A Centrally planned nation can afford to centrally plan on what is needed for food and other necessities.

Uhhhhhhhh the USSR and Maoist China are widely known for their famines.

It's not playing by a global free market rule in regards to its foodstuffs, a chingchong wearing a bowl on his head will still be able to eat his pork fried rice in his 2ft by 2ft dresser drawer house all cozy and warm because the CCP can make sure that happens.

His pork fried rice will be pressed cardboard on the inside, and covered in gutter oil on the outside.
The CCP can't make sure of anything except "line goes up". They don't care if the concrete in high rise buildings has been mostly replaced by papier mache or the rebar can be bent by hand by a 100lb Chinese woman.