Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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It's not going to be Russian or Chinese grannies freezing their ass off this winter because they can't afford heating and it's not going to be Russian or Chinese workers having to live in their car or a tent because they can't afford both the gas and a room to rent, it's going to be NATO.
disagree. you vastly overestimate the situation in china.
it's the chinese workers who are currently being locked in their apartments to the point of actual starvation, not the americans.

america could suffer a big economic collapse, and even the poorest americans would still be a lot better off than the poor in china (migrant laborers from rural areas) are right now.
 
I'm sorry but isn't the Poroshenko the same guy Russia tried to present as legitimated leader of Ukraine, instead of Zelensky? Essentially Putin's guy in Ukraine? :tomgirl:
Ho. Ly. Shit.

You are the most retarded son of the toilet plumb sucking AIDS riddled whove I've ever witnessed.

Poroshenko is the West's guy, you utter failure of genepool waste disposal.
 
no reform will un-immigrate dozens of millions of hostile foreigners.
you'd have to do large scale mass deportations to fix this situation, which is not possible in a liberal democracy.
Of course, the rise of Dark Hitler is not too far off and when that happens, yes the US will fix this problem very rapidly.
 
You are the most retarded son of the toilet plumb sucking AIDS riddled whove I've ever witnessed.
you utter failure of genepool waste disposal.
There were books written about it.
Our ancestors knew it well too.
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—Territories occupied during Yanukovich presidency: 0%
—Territories occupied during Poroshenko presidency: 7%
—Territories occupied during Zelenski presidency: 21%
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You seem to be obsessed with the state of the Eastern Economies while failing to assume both the economic and domestic issues going on in the West. Let's get back to the point:

- Russia will win the war
- Russia will take territory from Ukraine
- The West will cope and waste money on military weapons
- The West will suffer from food and energy shortages
- Inflation will get worse
- People will die in the West as a result of decisions made in the West
- There will be political and social ramifications for all of this
- ???
- The West wins!

This is where I came in with the pro-NATO sentiment. You have the economy of the West in one of the worst situations in at least 4 decades and you want to talk about mark ups for the Russians and Shanghai quarantines? That the self-sufficient Russians or Centrally planned Chinese are going to be the real losers here? It's not going to be Russian or Chinese grannies freezing their ass off this winter because they can't afford heating and it's not going to be Russian or Chinese workers having to live in their car or a tent because they can't afford both the gas and a room to rent, it's going to be NATO.

You want to talk about how "China has to obey the Free Market's rules! This is a bullshit argument" while we're talking about an economic situation so perilous that it involves the basic necessities of life, not about the GDP of Consumer goods. A Centrally planned nation can afford to centrally plan on what is needed for food and other necessities. It's not playing by a global free market rule in regards to its foodstuffs, a chingchong wearing a bowl on his head will still be able to eat his pork fried rice in his 2ft by 2ft dresser drawer house all cozy and warm because the CCP can make sure that happens. In the Free Market Liberal Western Nations, necessities of life are treated like any other commodity. Mr. Matt Howard is going to pay the 10 dollars a gallon gas, or he doesn't get to go to work and loses even more money. Mr. Matt Howard doesn't deserve McDonalds because he's a filthy working class person. Mr. Matt Howard will love the free market when all he can afford is excess rice that ChingChong don't want, while sleeping in his car with a blanket in January.

"The West is now trying to move on and forget about it." No it's not, it's doubling down on its retardation. The sanctions it's imposing on Russia harms the West more that it harms Russia. The West is governed by careless retards, and people like yourself need to stop giving it the benefit of the doubt.

By the way, Yes, the Chinese don't give a fuck about abstract notions of freedom like Americans have. They want the lockdowns to end so they can go about their day, they aren't trying to use it to change the government like the Cons and Liberals in the West are.
One of the most interesting phenomenons in this incident has been to observe how utterly ignorant of basic macroeconomic principles the academia is.

Vomiting out the old GDP measurement on Russia and completely oblivious to the concept of PPP.

Watching the Pikachu face when the sanctions only enhance their economic power.

Truly revealing and tells us that a college education is perhaps a waste of money now.
 
This is a shitty example because Mexico and America have differing religion, culture, language, traditions and are different animals altogheter.

Eastern Ukraine and Russia have almost the same language, culture, religion, traditions, buildings,customs and lifestyle.

Also, the Scots teamed up with the English to opress the Irish, that's just a fact.
No, actually, it is a great example and was the foundation for the Mexico-American War. Lol.
 
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No we aren't. Mexico and America are both brothers in Christ. Both of us have embraced the protestant tradition of not establishing a national church, but his holiness Pope Francis is the head of Ecuminical Catholic Church, the largest religious organization in Mexico and the United States.

We are also both children of the Roman Empire. Just like Russia and Ukraine can retrace their national origins, culture and laws to Grand Kyiv, America and Mexico draw ours back to Rome. Sure both Rome and Grand Kyiv are dead and buried, but they are our cultural progenitors.

Also, Spanish and English are essentially the same language. Just like Russian and Ukrainian. So many common words, and so many people on either side of the border speak both.

Our histories are also intertwined. We are both colonial progeny, both had independence wars in the late 18th century, and Mexico was at one point entirely Conquered by the United States. We could have kept the whole country but benevolently decided they could do their own thing. But only if we agreed!

After all, by Russian Logic Mexico is America an my Virginian Ass 3,000 miles away from Mexico City who can't speak Spanish is essentially a superior version of Mexican who don't have a real history, culture or language anyway. They are just discount Spaniards who have been english bitches for 300 years.
Right except for the 300 year part. Mexico gained independence in 1821.
 
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Vomiting out the old GDP measurement on Russia and completely oblivious to the concept of PPP.

Watching the Pikachu face when the sanctions only enhance their economic power.
Meanwhile in a store in Rostov-on-Don, they're trialing anti-theft cases on butter to deal with the increased shoplifting.
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Academics are out of touch with reality? I agree. Let's look at reality. It's not looking like Russia's economic power is being enhanced.
 
I wouldn’t hold my breath: not only is their huge support for this special operation but they also passed laws to curb any dissent on it.

I just don’t see the Russians uncucking themselves at this time. They’ve always been a subservient people.
Many people are completely oblivious to the fact that russian system is a bit different. Sure, you can go out and protest. You can try to rally other people to your cause. But unless there is literally milions of people supporting your case, be prepared to be sent to Ural mountain range in coming months.

I forgot his name, but this guy who was taunted as the putins greatest political enemy. Currently serving sentence in penal colony, and all his attention whoring in the west hasnt earned him jack shit. Most russians dont care, as long as they can live somewhat comfortably. Autists screeching in western media are not going to change their mind... mostly because some people dislike being called the worst on the planet just because they live inside one and not another countrys border. You cant insult them in one moment and expect them to support your case in next.
 
I lived in Mexico for a year and they would literally mariachi you to death if you dared utter one paragraph of this word vomit in Mexico City. Not because they hate America and Americans but because it's retarded as fuck.
It’s pretty close to reality in the North of Mexico. Remember that not too long ago, they wanted to secede from the retarded chilango oppression.
 
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Meanwhile in a store in Rostov-on-Don, they're trialing anti-theft cases on butter to deal with the increased shoplifting.
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Academics are out of touch with reality? I agree. Let's look at reality. It's not looking like Russia's economic power is being enhanced.
Their currency is higher now than before the conflict and the food supply is now almost dependent on them because they also took out their major competitor on this.

Not allowing people to spend means increasing ratio of savings to debt which is exactly why Japan had so much buying power in the past decades.

Also, you should see some of the shelves at the US supermarkets. They look a lot worse than this. Supply chain collapse is a thing, you know.
 
Their currency is higher now than before the conflict
I suggest you take your own advice with regards to GDP. You're taking measurements out of context and seeing "line goes up" so everything is good.
Not allowing people to spend means increasing ratio of savings to debt which is exactly why Japan had so much buying power in the past decades.
High savings ratio was one of the reasons for the USSR's collapse. When the Soviet goods were garbage, people would rather hold on to Rubles than spend them.
Also, you should see some of the shelves at the US supermarkets. They look a lot worse than this. Supply chain collapse is a thing, you know.
We're not talking about the US, we're talking about Russia becoming economically strengthened.
 
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