Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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It’s pretty close to reality in the North of Mexico. Remember that not too long ago, they wanted to secede from the retarded chilango oppression.

You already have your hands full with weekly murders in Chicago or other cities.

You don't want to deal with the cartels or the almost daily murders and skirmishes that take place in northern Mexico.
 
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I suggest you take your own advice with regards to GDP. You're taking measurements out of context and seeing "line goes up" so everything is good.

High savings ratio was one of the reasons for the USSR's collapse. When the Soviet goods were garbage, people would rather hold on to Rubles than spend them.

We're not talking about the US, we're talking about Russia becoming economically strengthened.
Nooooo! I didn’t mean the US! Their shelverinos don’t acksully demonstrate the sanctions failure!!!!
 
You already have your hands full with weekly murders in Chicago or other cities.

You don't want to deal with the cartels or the almost daily murders and skirmishes that take place in northern Mexico.
Yeah, they’ve heavily supressed their 2nd amendment rights and thus, only criminals and cops too scared to get into a gunfight have them.

Just like Chicago.
 
One of the most interesting phenomenons in this incident has been to observe how utterly ignorant of basic macroeconomic principles the academia is.

Vomiting out the old GDP measurement on Russia and completely oblivious to the concept of PPP.

Watching the Pikachu face when the sanctions only enhance their economic power.

Truly revealing and tells us that a college education is perhaps a waste of money now.

LMAO at economists measuring money flows when that measurement only makes sense under the assumption of fundamental structures of resource production & consumption not changing that much.

Reminder that economists literally think that if you have the exact same pattern of resource use, but you set it up so that money changes hands more often, you've become more prosperous.


High savings ratio was one of the reasons for the USSR's collapse. When the Soviet goods were garbage, people would rather hold on to Rubles than spend them.

"If only Russians had spent more of their rubles, the USSR wouldn't have collapsed" is Krugman-tier macroeconomic silliness.
 
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I'm not "obsessed". The conversation was about China being "amused" at the West dumping their stockpiles (which exist to fight Russia anyway) while they're fucking their own economy for no discernible reason.
Then you replied to me with the take that "Chinese don't care about freedom". Mein neger, your argument should be "ackthually they're a command economy so through 12D underwater backgammon they can create wealth even when not doing anything". You'd be wrong, but at least that's an argument that makes sense. As it stands, you just threw a NPC response that seemed like it came from a chat bot that didn't understand the context of my post.

Because the context was China being "amused" at NATO taking outdated shit out of storage that was going to be donated to Africa or some shit in the next 10-15 years.

AHAHAHA

Uhhhhhhhh the USSR and Maoist China are widely known for their famines.

His pork fried rice will be pressed cardboard on the inside, and covered in gutter oil on the outside.
The CCP can't make sure of anything except "line goes up". They don't care if the concrete in high rise buildings has been mostly replaced by papier mache or the rebar can be bent by hand by a 100lb Chinese woman.

You didn't once make any sort of criticism or argument on the domestic policies of the West, nor factor in that the post was a speculation on how the Russian-Ukraine war ends. You just wanted to go hard against China economically and are basically asking me why the Chinese would be amused. You're asking why they would be amused, and I guess I am to blame because I didn't spell out the obvious, just talked about everything around it.

The Chinese are amused because the West has literally given up all their in service weapons to be wasted in Ukraine. This means that the West now more than any other time before presents less of a threat to them or their allies. I think anyone would be amused by their geopolitical opponents kneecapping themselves.

Uhhhhhhhh the USSR and Maoist China are widely known for their famines.

lmao, yeah because Xi Jinping's China is attempting to genocide birds and bumblebees. No the centrally planned nature of an economy doesn't naturally lead to famines, just like how free market capitalism doesn't naturally lead to affordable goods.

Anyways, I'm not sure if you're looking for an honest discussion about geopolitics, are a retarded American who thinks they still live in the best country in the world: Capitalism, Democracy and McDonalds, or you think I'm trying to simp for China or Russia when I am pointing out that they're going to do okay but the West is fucked.

Regardless, it's weird how a conflict between Russia and Ukraine and the effects it has on the world became a discussion on China with you. It seems you have a lot to say about them.


disagree. you vastly overestimate the situation in china.
it's the chinese workers who are currently being locked in their apartments to the point of actual starvation, not the americans.

america could suffer a big economic collapse, and even the poorest americans would still be a lot better off than the poor in china (migrant laborers from rural areas) are right now.

I don't want to be that guy, but I'd like to see some sort of source on that. I have heard the opposite from people I know in China and it might just be their specific living circumstances.

I also never said Americans were going to starve to death, just that they'd be living miserable lives. It was the Europeans that were going to starve to death.
 
With how many lies are blamed on Russia I seriously started to doubt what media if feeding us about ching chongs.
Although their "one china" policy truly knows no bounds and can result in absolutely retarded measures. Both officially/unofficially.

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NATO bros... where did we go wrong?
 
Many people are completely oblivious to the fact that russian system is a bit different. Sure, you can go out and protest. You can try to rally other people to your cause. But unless there is literally milions of people supporting your case, be prepared to be sent to Ural mountain range in coming months.
So it's illegal. If not on paper then in practice.

I forgot his name, but this guy who was taunted as the putins greatest political enemy. Currently serving sentence in penal colony, and all his attention whoring in the west hasnt earned him jack shit. Most russians dont care, as long as they can live somewhat comfortably. Autists screeching in western media are not going to change their mind... mostly because some people dislike being called the worst on the planet just because they live inside one and not another countrys border. You cant insult them in one moment and expect them to support your case in next.
It was Navalny. The attention probably earned Navalny his life. There was an attempt to poison him, but he managed to get to Germany for medical help and recover somewhat. After Navalny was back in Russia he ended up imprisoned instead. Only explanation for it is that if he was killed it would generate too much bad PR for Russia and risk upsetting Germany and France.

Navalny's MO was to target government's kleptocracy and capitalizing on upcoming unrest to climb to power. Putin's government clearly saw him as enough of a treat to warrant assassination and then imprisonment.
 
President of the European Commission Ursula Von Der Leyen:
- To save Europe from Putin, we must continue to buy Russian oil
- Because if we don't, Putin will sell it elsewhere for higher prices... :story:

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That's the thing, up until the tanks actually started rolling in across Ukraine, most of us thought it was simply a power play. Partly because you'd have to be dumb as fuck to start a war in FEBRUARY, partly because supply lines weren't reinforced that hard and partly because it seemed like actual political suicide to actually start invading Ukraine.

I'm still genuinely surprised Russia didn't escalate things first before going tank first into Ukraine. Cutting off the gas would have gone a long way towards giving Russia major leverage in a negotiation, and even a false flag Moscow bombing would have gone a long way towards sympathising with Russia and giving them the justification for a land invasion. They went from 1-100 and as a result sanctions went from 1-100 and now nobody can really escalate more without end of the world tier rammifications.

Well maybe that is the genius of it.

Attack like a retard when nobody expects it.

Something that Sun Tzu would be proud of lol.

I guess they could have waited but decided "fuck it" and "go for broke".
 
You didn't once make any sort of criticism or argument on the domestic policies of the West
The good old "uhhhh you have to criticize both sides". No, I don't think I will.
You just wanted to go hard against China
I don't want anything except for someone to come out with a rational explanation for this:
1. Europe is dumping weapons they wouldn't use anyway in Ukraine, to fight the enemy those weapons were purchased to fight.
2. China has several cities paralyzed.
3. ???
4. China wins.
That is all.
The Chinese are amused because the West has literally given up all their in service weapons to be wasted in Ukraine.
This isn't even true. As you may have realized because the conversation has spanned hundreds of pages, but many countries are unwilling to send higher tier weapons like fighter jets and main battle tanks. The only tank models that will make it into Ukraine are outdated, and ironically good enough to fight the T-62 coming into the theater but outgunned and outarmored by upgraded T-72B3s and T-90s.
Nobody is giving up all their service weapons. In fact most of the shit being sent to Ukraine was either out of service or old stock that would have to be destroyed in a few years anyway.
I think anyone would be amused by their geopolitical opponents kneecapping themselves.
How are they kneecapped? They still have all their naval power, since no ships that I know of could have entered the Black Sea. No fighters have been sent, and even if MiG-29s had been gifted to Ukraine those are Soviet heritage and in need of replacements anyway.
are a retarded American who thinks they still live in the best country in the world: Capitalism, Democracy and McDonalds
Complete strawman, but I forgive you.
Someone made the Ukrainian bulpup AK in Pimp My Gun? That's a deep cut.
 
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In other news, Lithuania made crowdfunding campaign for... Bayraktar TB2. Purchase was approved by ministry of defence in both Lithuania and Turkey

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They set up deadline for 3 weeks and their goal was 5 million euro.
In 24h they got almost 2 million.
In 3 and a half days, they got their goal.

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I really regret I could not get a chance to donate, but it looks like there will be other crowdfunding campaigns to buy weapons.
 
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In other news, Lithuania made crowdfunding campaign for... Bayraktar TB2. Purchase was approved by ministry of defence in both Lithuania and Turkey

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They set up deadline for 3 weeks and their goal was 5 million euro.
In 24h they got almost 2 million.
In 3 and a half days, they got their goal.

I really regret I could not get a chance to donate, but it looks like there will be other crowdfunding campaigns to buy weapons.
LOL military industrial complex wins again. Good way to piss away your hard earned money I guess.
 
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