Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

Should the title be re-worded to expand the scope of the thread?

  • The US Trucking Crisis of 2021 works fine

    Votes: 25 9.4%
  • The US Logistics Crisis of 2021

    Votes: 30 11.2%
  • The US Transportation Crisis of 2021

    Votes: 7 2.6%
  • The US Supply Chain Crisis of 2021

    Votes: 35 13.1%
  • Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021

    Votes: 206 77.2%

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honestly maybe i'm a retard but with the way everything is failing i'm sure a bunch of these nukes will be duds, how often were we checking the fucking things anyways? most of our warheads were made in the 1970s, you wouldn't trust a car or gun from that era to work properly even with maintenance, and these were made knowing it would be illegal to test them to make sure they work. could just be fucking pinball parts in them for all our government knows
I very heavily doubt any nukes will come flying. The Russians and Americans should be fine with food production, while Europe will never escalate to open conflict for food.
Maybe if we're lucky India and Pakistan will finally settle their score.
 
I very heavily doubt any nukes will come flying. The Russians and Americans should be fine with food production, while Europe will never escalate to open conflict for food.
Maybe if we're lucky India and Pakistan will finally settle their score.
Luckily for everyone involved, Pakistan already refuses to import Indian wheat for the most part, so the export ban that was just put in place won't aggravate anything between them. Things will have to get a lot worse before the mutual decision to remove all loos for good is made between them.

I've noticed in my local fliers and while walking stores that the number of sale items is way down. Usually you can barely walk down an aisle without being bombarded by big sale tags on half the products on the shelves. Now, the fliers are mostly just stock and not even discount listings. Shen I was out earlier to restock, I only saw sales tags on a few seasonal items and some of the fresh produce section. Its eerie in a consumerist way to see everything just price as-is.
 
I can't really bullshit and pretend this has anything to do with the supply chain outside of apparently I was one of the last people who will be getting bees this year because the bee guy said he's basically sold out and still has the rest of the year to go. It sounded like there's been unusual demand this year.

Anyway, what I wanted and got told 'no' on was actually a Warré hive. We actually have a Langstroth. Here's some beeeeeeeeees!!!!

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The tape is to keep wild bees out, not the honey bees in. They are apparently Italian/Caucasian mixed and are certified (with the state). I fed them their sugar water without any real gear on. Basically gloves and a long sleeved top.

Bee update spoilered because I know it's off topic, but we didn't die in a fiery bee filled car wreck so I figured I'd share.

In the interest of adding something, the problem with the ports being congested is not only still going, but has also spread to China. Apologies if this is a bit stale (since Shanghai has been locked down forever so no kidding their ports are a mess).

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I've seen that before! In Louisiana. Two days after Hurricane Ida hit. I guess some things remain constant from disaster to disaster.

I've seen it before. Trucker strikes tend to cause that.
Thing about those examples, is they would have a finite end, probably after a couple weeks to a month at most.

When is the end in sight for this?
 
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Thing about those examples, is they would have a finite end, probably after a couple weeks to a month at most.

When is the end in sight for this?
We'd need to break down this greater crisis into it's sub-parts first, because each of them have different ending conditions and the like. But, I think they also affect each other? We might need to break out the calculus equations for this one.

Long term, eventually the US will give up on Chinese made goods and the economics of farming and food demands in the US will force farmers to shift focus. That will mean a return to US Manufacturing (although I suspect we'll use Vietnam et all as a stopgap) and the US will stop exporting food and start cycling it internally instead. I.e., an end of Globalism, at least on some level. Which the Globalists will ABSOLUTELY fight against, tooth and nail.

Given that the WEF has plans for the world, and they're actively infiltrating governments -- and bragging about it -- I kinda expect nothing to get better until they're taken out against the wall, but who knows?
 
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I.e., an end of Globalism, at least on some level.
On some level, yes. The whole pitch of globalism was cheaper goods, readily available, through the concept of comparative advantage. The underlying security assumption was interlinked economies become too dangerous for any one party to fuck with, ensuring consistent flow of goods from producers to the relevant consumers. A fundamentally flawed assumption, for the history of humanity is irrational decisions leading to war and destruction - this isn't explicitly a universal bad thing, but it does mean that any people who find themselves wholly dependent on the activities of others will inevitably be fucked over, as we are seeing now. For most of us its just rising prices and empty shelves, but Africa is down shit creek without a paddle as more and more countries ban staple crop exports, and its gonna get worse as more and more farmers are looking at fertilizer and seed pricing, and deciding to plant groundcover and let the fields fallow.

What we will probably see is the end of Globalism for base and natural resources, and immediate-manufactured items from them. The days of cutting down trees to ship them to China to assemble into particleboard flatpack furniture to ship back to the US will be over. Domestic food and staple good production will be a norm, with trade being surplus and excess shuffled around, much like how the dairy and egg industries already operate.

Trade will still likely be a major source of complex goods for many countries, but where that line ends up being drawn is anyones guess, and on a long enough timescale, everything becomes a non-complex good. It plausibly lies somewhere between High Tolerance Machined parts and Micro Electronics, as the former can be done with illiterate labor and can self replicate their own tooling, using local metal supplies, and the latter is an incredibly talent and capital expensive industry that only works at massive output scales, making domestic consumption of all outputs difficult. Digital goods will also probably stay trade heavy, due to centralization of the needed talents and the fact that any protection measures against duplication are legal and software driven and easily fucked with by national entities in times of crisis.
 
Given that the WEF has plans for the world, and they're actively infiltrating governments -- and bragging about it -- I kinda expect nothing to get better until they're taken out against the wall, but who knows?
And unfortunately for them, the common man is becoming more and more aware of their machinations. Right down to "Eat the bugs, own nothing, be happy". They also understand that the WEF is backed by most corporations and governments which makes them seem like your Saturday morning cartoon villains.

On that note, I'm hoping to see more people look for alternative ways to grow their own food and fill in the services that this crisis has no doubt screwed over. Guinea Pig farming is one such solution for the meat issue.
 
im sorry what
Guinea pigs are hebivores. They only need vitamin C to live and the rest are plants. On top of that, they breed quickly thanks to being rodents. Not to mention, they aren't prone to digging like rabbits are. So easier to keep contained.

Peru has an entire industry based on raising the critters as meat.
 
And unfortunately for them, the common man is becoming more and more aware of their machinations.
But what is the common man going to do with this knowledge?
If 2020's Summer Of Love taught us anything, it's that the common man will watch his home city burn to the ground and just shrug, maybe even donate money and goods to the poor oppressed Molotov throwers.
 
But what is the common man going to do with this knowledge?
If 2020's Summer Of Love taught us anything, it's that the common man will watch his home city burn to the ground and just shrug, maybe even donate money and goods to the poor oppressed Molotov throwers.
A fair point. At this point, its fuck all. As common man is comfortable during those times. They are well fed and they got entertainment. Except for those who had their lives ruined by peaceful protestors.

But once starvation hits and they're no longer comfortable, expect to see shit start.
 
On some level, yes. The whole pitch of globalism was cheaper goods, readily available, through the concept of comparative advantage. The underlying security assumption was interlinked economies become too dangerous for any one party to fuck with, ensuring consistent flow of goods from producers to the relevant consumers. A fundamentally flawed assumption, for the history of humanity is irrational decisions leading to war and destruction - this isn't explicitly a universal bad thing, but it does mean that any people who find themselves wholly dependent on the activities of others will inevitably be fucked over, as we are seeing now. For most of us its just rising prices and empty shelves, but Africa is down shit creek without a paddle as more and more countries ban staple crop exports, and its gonna get worse as more and more farmers are looking at fertilizer and seed pricing, and deciding to plant groundcover and let the fields fallow.

What we will probably see is the end of Globalism for base and natural resources, and immediate-manufactured items from them. The days of cutting down trees to ship them to China to assemble into particleboard flatpack furniture to ship back to the US will be over. Domestic food and staple good production will be a norm, with trade being surplus and excess shuffled around, much like how the dairy and egg industries already operate.

Trade will still likely be a major source of complex goods for many countries, but where that line ends up being drawn is anyones guess, and on a long enough timescale, everything becomes a non-complex good. It plausibly lies somewhere between High Tolerance Machined parts and Micro Electronics, as the former can be done with illiterate labor and can self replicate their own tooling, using local metal supplies, and the latter is an incredibly talent and capital expensive industry that only works at massive output scales, making domestic consumption of all outputs difficult. Digital goods will also probably stay trade heavy, due to centralization of the needed talents and the fact that any protection measures against duplication are legal and software driven and easily fucked with by national entities in times of crisis.
I disagree fully. This is the path that should be taken, particularly in the face of runaway energy costs making the logistics a concern. The problem is there is no boot in the ass to get it done, under normal circumstances a country would raise tariffs so an import product would be 1-5% more expensive to import than its domestically produced competitor, over time the market would slowly slant towards domestically produced goods until the import was competed out of the market. But the establishment views globalism and tariff free trade as a religion and these methods will never be employed. Trump touched the third rail by fucking with China in such regard, only an outsider would dare employ such tactics and immediately the media at the politicians behest began shilling that tariffs would destroy the markets and it was the most dangerous moment in time since the Cuban Missile Crisis. Right now would be an excellent time to reconfigure the base of the economy to do domestic manufacturing but it will never happen because the establishment refuses to do so.
 
I disagree fully. This is the path that should be taken, particularly in the face of runaway energy costs making the logistics a concern. The problem is there is no boot in the ass to get it done, under normal circumstances a country would raise tariffs so an import product would be 1-5% more expensive to import than its domestically produced competitor, over time the market would slowly slant towards domestically produced goods until the import was competed out of the market. But the establishment views globalism and tariff free trade as a religion and these methods will never be employed. Trump touched the third rail by fucking with China in such regard, only an outsider would dare employ such tactics and immediately the media at the politicians behest began shilling that tariffs would destroy the markets and it was the most dangerous moment in time since the Cuban Missile Crisis. Right now would be an excellent time to reconfigure the base of the economy to do domestic manufacturing but it will never happen because the establishment refuses to do so.
Populism is the looming boot to get it done. More and more nations are seeing the rise of popular movements to make this happen, to bring work and jobs back, for their own selfish goals if nothing else. Under the pressure of sufficiently large populist movements, cucked politicians side with it, and new ones rise from its ranks. The establishment has influence only so far as the people believe in it. Furthermore, much of the establishment prioritizes power over wealth these days - reversing globalism opens massive market spaces for economic power to be earned, to then trade for local political power. Many will take that trade over the risk of worse outcomes.

Populism has many flaws, but in the case of reversing globalism, it is a major moving force.
 
You guys are acting like government policy has complete control over international trade. It doesn’t. If domestic production is superior for consumers, market forces will find a way to make it happen regardless of what the government does.
 
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