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[gutters]

Yeah, little girls generally get a small conversation around 6-10 years old about the specific "stranger dangers" that come with being a little girl (as long as there are trustworthy adult women in their lives that is). It's a fairly censored conversation because little children shouldn't be knowing about that, but it happens nonetheless. Teenage years are when old conversations like that are remembered and more at the forefront of the mind and that may be why your female peers acted that way.

Also, the reason your peers are wary is because they statistically have most likely experienced something that has made them feel that way. Not to PL all over the place but experiencing a handful of situations like that before you legally become an adult can be the standard for a large portion of women.

Also keep in mind, statistically-speaking, you are much more likely to be harmed or sexually assaulted by a friend or a relative rather than a complete stranger, as the former knows when to get you at your most vulnerable and how to manipulate you.

I think for certain types of harassment and assault this is true, but for more "basic" types of sexual harassment like catcalling and groping it's perfectly reasonable to assume that strangers can potentially do those things to you.

 

[Mothra1988]

Does it? I could be wrong, but I think this is more of a discussion on the femme side of things. My understanding is that this topic originates in more academic circles, so it may be a matter of where you hang out.

Personally, I don't think people try to. It just happens. I think that generally butch/femme couples are different from heterosexual couples, but I also think that people put too much weight on the shared sex being the cause of those differences. To use Apis' example of becoming a sex object: I didn't have this experience growing up. I'm in my mid-20s and I can only think of 3 times I've been catcalled, with "Smile!" being the worst of it. While I do (think I) get it, I seriously doubt I have the same visceral understanding that's being expected here.

Yeah, it's a thing in academic circles. My feminism professor once went off on this subject about how her relationships with women were bad because they were "patriarchal" and mirrored heterosexual dynamics. Frankly, due to her odd personality, I'm going to guess that her relationships failed due to her own neuroticism as opposed to the femme/butch dynamic that some people fall into naturally without issue. This is a person that spent a lot of time researching and writing on lesbian related issues and she pretty much admitted to only having dysfunctional relationships. As an interesting aside, her white daughter was also arrested due to hanging around black gang banger types and she explained about how mad she was that the black males were punished more harshly than her daughter was.

This class was also interesting because a lot of the things that were brought up there entered into the political mainstream only a few years or so later. This included a lot of time she spent trying to hammer in ideas from Judith Butler's Gender Trouble thesis that sex and gender are only performative, constructed and pretty much made up, which of course was a preview of what happened shortly afterwards with academia giving the big thumbs up to troons to invade women only spaces that became generic left wing policy shortly after that. So yeah, so much for the academic fart sniffers actually being on the lesbian community's side at all. They pretty much destroyed it by over-thinking everything to death.

I think stereotypical catcalling is a bigger cultural thing in New York and the east coast despite the fact that people there think they are more civilized than midwesterners or southerners. I've rarely experienced it here either, but I won't discount anyone's experiences to the opposite.

 

[Montalbane]

Hi gals OG lesbian coming through.

 

[gigantic]

I think stereotypical catcalling is a bigger cultural thing in New York and the east coast despite the fact that people there think they are more civilized than midwesterners or southerners. I've rarely experienced it here either, but I won't discount anyone's experiences to the opposite.

That could explain some of it, yeah. I wonder if you could make a broader point about the experience in places like New York being seen as the default in these discussions.

Yeah, it's a thing in academic circles. My feminism professor once went off on this subject about how her relationships with women were bad because they were "patriarchal" and mirrored heterosexual dynamics. Frankly, due to her odd personality, I'm going to guess that her relationships failed due to her own neuroticism as opposed to the femme/butch dynamic that some people fall into naturally without issue. This is a person that spent a lot of time researching and writing on lesbian related issues and she pretty much admitted to only having dysfunctional relationships. As an interesting aside, her white daughter was also arrested due to hanging around black gang banger types and she explained about how mad she was that the black males were punished more harshly than her daughter was.

This class was also interesting because a lot of the things that were brought up there entered into the political mainstream only a few years or so later. This included a lot of time she spent trying to hammer in ideas from Judith Butler's Gender Trouble thesis that sex and gender are only performative, constructed and pretty much made up, which of course was a preview of what happened shortly afterwards with academia giving the big thumbs up to troons to invade women only spaces that became generic left wing policy shortly after that. So yeah, so much for the academic fart sniffers actually being on the lesbian community's side at all. They pretty much destroyed it by over-thinking everything to death.

So it's not just me! I usually avoid social-issue academia like the plague. It seems like it starts reasonable, but gets more detached from reality the longer they're left to theorize. Similarly, they act like they discuss universal truths, but also need everyone to receive training to understand these universal truths.

I am a little curious, though. Did you find any of that course useful? Were there any books or articles that you'd recommend? If not from that course, are there any outside materials that you like? Or is it all bunk?

 

[Mothra1988]

So it's not just me! I usually avoid social-issue academia like the plague. It seems like it starts reasonable, but gets more detached from reality the longer they're left to theorize. Similarly, they act like they discuss universal truths, but also need everyone to receive training to understand these universal truths.

I am a little curious, though. Did you find any of that course useful? Were there any books or articles that you'd recommend? If not from that course, are there any outside materials that you like? Or is it all bunk?

Yeah, it's very detached from people with "street level" concerns. Most people with tenure lose their connection to the real world and become wine sipping parasites who mainly communicate with each other. My biggest problem with non-hard sciences in academia is it's all built on the foundation of Marxism, which is never going to fly in America or with normal people. They need to get rid of their sacred cows and try to re-think things in terms of basic fairness, etc. Americans don't like the idea of being placed into classes at conflict with each other.

Some of the course was interesting in that it showed me new ways to think about media, etc. but I don't know how useful it really was for real life. I don't know what I would recommend from it and probably have forgotten almost all of the authors and article titles. Other than Butler, I remember reading Bell Hooks, she's the black feminist everyone likes to cite. I guess she's partly behind the "intersectionality" thing that black feminists used to shame white feminists for ignoring them. I guess you could say I like her in that her writing style isn't unreadable like some of the others but I don't know if I actually care about the content. If you are interested in black womanhood maybe it will be of some use to you, but I couldn't say I agree with her views on most subjects.

I think it was performing research and reading academic journal articles I fished out of the university library that really turned me against academia because they were all written in this dense foggy verbiage you had to decode to read. It really dawned at me at that point that this was about gate-keeping and making money, because none of that stuff from those journals was designed to help anyone or solve meaningful problems, it was about giving these people in cushy jobs busy work with a system of peer review that was used to keep others who didn't write in this ridiculous style out of their circle.

I ended up getting an A in the course with a paper I wrote about an anime. You can guess which one, because it's the obvious choice (the one that isn't Sailor Moon, the other one lol). It's kind of embarrassing in retrospect, but whatever. LOL. I think it was most useful in regards to making me more suspicious of academia because I was a koolaid chugging neophyte before that. When you look at the source material for some of these ideas you get a different perspective on it. At this point, I'd rather just assess things from my point of view than caring about what some academic says about something. You'll learn more from normal life experiences than you ever will from any of these people.

 

[Shidoen]

Ironically the site turned gray just in time for all the bright colors that’ll be in pride parades.

 

[Apis mellifera]

Ironically the site turned gray just in time for all the bright colors that’ll be in pride parades.

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[Shidoen]

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[Android raptor]

Women who hunt animals and skin their hide for clothing are pretty hot.

I'm not on that level yet but I'm workin' on it

Seriously, I want to learn how to hunt and tan deer hide and stuff someday to gain new levels in nature dyke

 

[Shidoen]

I'm not on that level yet but I'm workin' on it

Seriously, I want to learn how to hunt and tan deer hide and stuff someday to gain new levels in nature dyke

Okay here’s what a lesbian taught me on hunting, go for the heart and not the head. So for any animal you gotta go for a chest placement because the head is cruel and also very messy. For tanning and stuff you pretty much stretch it out and leave it to dry on a rack, that’s how I learned. I also know how to make jerky because I was hungry one day and had a barrel of salt so I threw some meat in and then dehydrated it.

 

[Android raptor]

I think stereotypical catcalling is a bigger cultural thing in New York and the east coast despite the fact that people there think they are more civilized than midwesterners or southerners. I've rarely experienced it here either, but I won't discount anyone's experiences to the opposite.

Catcalling most definitely happens in the south and I was in middle school at the oldest when it first started happening to me.

I hiss at catcallers.

 

[Apis mellifera]

I hiss at catcallers.

Speaking of, I unironically have found success in deterring strange men from following me by making my eyes as wide as possible, grinning, waving my arms and stomping my feet, and barking and snarling like a rabid dog. Bonus points if you throw your weight around and start charging at them. As it turns out, just like other wildlife, even the most vile sort are put-off by a madwoman. I highly recommend this trick to all women in sketchy areas.

Don't forget to carry some sort of aerosol deterrent such as pepper spray, though hair spray also works in a pinch, and go for the eyes. Always assume the worst, and that there will be some man not intimidated by your strange behaviour.

 

[Shidoen]

Speaking of, I unironically have found success in deterring strange men from following me by making my eyes as wide as possible, grinning, waving my arms and stomping my feet, and barking and snarling like a rabid dog. Bonus points if you throw your weight around and start charging at them. As it turns out, just like other wildlife, even the most vile sort are put-off by a madwoman. I highly recommend this trick to all women in sketchy areas.

Don't forget to carry some sort of aerosol deterrent such as pepper spray, though hair spray also works in a pinch, and go for the eyes. Always assume the worst, and that there will be some man not intimidated by your strange behaviour.

I usually conceal or open carry a pistol. Works like a charm considering I also act like meth is a prescription. However it's more against strangers since I live way too close to black hoods for comfort, the food is good though.

 

[Carnivorous Plant]

I think stereotypical catcalling is a bigger cultural thing in New York and the east coast despite the fact that people there think they are more civilized than midwesterners or southerners. I've rarely experienced it here either, but I won't discount anyone's experiences to the opposite.

I move cross country every few years, and let me tell you that catcalling is everywhere. I'm currently in a very liberal area of a western state and I have never experienced this much catcalling anywhere else.

New Yorkers have it down to a science though. Almost to the point where it doesn't register as an insult, just a greeting.

 

[Hepativore]

I move cross country every few years, and let me tell you that catcalling is everywhere. I'm currently in a very liberal area of a western state and I have never experienced this much catcalling anywhere else.

New Yorkers have it down to a science though. Almost to the point where it doesn't register as an insult, just a greeting.

Around where I live in the Upper Midwest, you just get the random douchebags who roll down their windows to yell random insults at pedestrians just to be assholes.

 

[Mothra1988]

I move cross country every few years, and let me tell you that catcalling is everywhere. I'm currently in a very liberal area of a western state and I have never experienced this much catcalling anywhere else.

New Yorkers have it down to a science though. Almost to the point where it doesn't register as an insult, just a greeting.

Well you said it, you're in a very liberal area, which would be influenced by liberal big city culture, which is where this shit comes from. I mean I have been catcalled before, but it was usually when I was a tourist somewhere other than the midwest.

 

[Shidoen]

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Hi gals OG lesbian coming through.

Is that an edit of Putin or did that women’s history have some blanks in that useless class textbook?

 

[Cringe newfag]

Is that an edit of Putin or did that women’s history have some blanks in that useless class textbook?

It's Berlusconi, notorious Italian sex sleaze ex Prime Minister

 

[Shidoen]

It's Berlusconi, notorious Italian sex sleaze ex Prime Minister

Did he send that Tifa porn to the senate for revenge?

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I guess she's partly behind the "intersectionality" thing that black feminists used to shame white feminists for ignoring them.

Interestingly when I went to college there was a lot of good conversation about whether or not intersectionality was a good thing. It mostly had to do with feminism in the Middle East and in Asia (particularly South Korea.) South Korea got a lot of discussion because it's a westernized country and still incredibly patriarchal, and the women there typically reject western feminism.

So the question was basically is intersectionality just another form of western colonialism or not. Since it's basically saying what we as western academics think is good is also good for women in South Korea they just don't know it yet. Unfortunately this line of thinking seems to have died out. Probably because it made people uncomfortable.