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[Cuck Norris]

Short version:

Why won't liberals and progressives address and denounce the widespread mass extreme oppression of women in the middle east?It's great hypocrisy that undermines their validity completely.




Fair enough.That is certainly an extreme statement.

But aren't you being hyperbolic as well?

Even though the statements Marjan is making are excessive and extreme they aren't without any underlying truth.

This is a big thing with you that makes interacting with you difficult that I have already said before.

You like to be extremely technical whereas I generally prefer to argue and think in metaphors and analogy and that's usually how I express myself.

But for you everything has to be a 100% literal affair that is perfectly proven and substantiated at every turn or else by your standards it is invalid and incorrect and you will discard it.



Well this is good.At least we are having a actual reasonable discussion right now which is about as juicy for me as a lolcow probably is for you.

I am going to rewatch the video and give you real time interpretation of it so that you can see why I took it the way I did and why I disagree with you.

First she talks about what happened and just states the facts of the situation.That's fine nothing bad there.

Then she says it's unclear if they actually did anything wrong.That's also fair although it's already hypocritical since I'd bet that if the situation involved say white males at a college she'd probably adopt a guilty until proven innocent strategy.However I have no evidence to back up that statement objectively at this point so I will concede that right now.

Then she states the facts about germany letting in 1.1 million refugees and what Angela Merkel's response to the rapes by the refugees in this particular case has been.

Ok that's fine.She just stated some facts.

But right after that is when the spin and propaganda begins.Literally right after the facts get stated.Beginning at 2:10 in the video.

Her first statement is (not verbatim but accurate representations of what she is saying)- "This is not a representation of all islams".Slippery slope introduced.

Then she says "If people come from a culture where women who aren't covered are considered "asking for it" to a culture like Germany then they inevitably will rape some people.It's really a huge cultural difference that needs to be addressed".Notice that she makes no mention of the Muslim culture being wrong they are just "different".

Then the black anchor says "We do need to worry about wheter a safe environment is being created.But we need to make sure that people do not start to judge refugees and Islam off the actions of these small amount of men who are doing these things.Rapes were probably being committed by the native population before these guys ever arrived so we shouldn't judge the Refugees and Islam as a whole based off the actions of these few".Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression in the middle east by my knowledge.

Next female anchor says "We need to create a education program and require refugees to go through it before they are accepted to teach them about our culture."

And now here is her quote verbatim this time right after that:

"The education program is basically getting them accustomed to the cultural differences in this european country.So the way that you treat women in our country is very different from the way that women are treated in your country.You know not to know violate your own beliefs or whatever but these are our laws and you have to follow our laws."

This part really stuck out to me.Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women in the middle east.In fact it's the opposite here.It's respect for it.

The trend continues after this.There is no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women.It's all about just making the refugees follow the laws while they are in the country.That's as far as it goes.

There is no way you can be intellectually honest at this point and ignore this glaring hypocrisy here.

I literally rewatched the whole entire video a second time to see if I could catch one,just one condemnation of oppression of women in the middle east.I couldn't find a single one.But I could find condemnation of a US rape culture.There is also plenty of praise and acceptance of Islam.

She also ironically laments the rolling stone rape hoax as making people become skeptical to the claims of women that they have been raped but that's exactly what she does at the start of the video in relation to the women raped by the Muslim refugees.So make up your mind Ana,which is it?

Also they talk about how Muslims don't have a rape culture (false) but the US does.So remember the argument they make that only a small number of refugees rape?Well so does a small number of US white men.So how come the US has a "rape" culture but Muslims do not?

The comedian even tries to claim he "doesn't know enough about Muslim culture" to say if it's a rape culture or not.Huh?

Ana Kasparian even says and I quote:

I don't think their culture is "rapey".

She was referring to Muslim culture by the way.



I rewatched the clip and so should anyone else before they listen to you.You misrepresented this to fit your bias here.That is not an accurate representation of what was said.

They don't address oppression of women in the middle east they just address that you are expected to cover up there or you are asking for it.That's it.

To them in this video they literally verbatim claim that US rape culture is a bigger deal than Muslim rape culture.Come on now.

I am literally asking you supdup in the name of intellectual honesty,how can you not admit the glaring hypocrisy here for any reason other than bias and ego and the need to preserve a delusion?

All I am asking for is liberals/progressives to be fair and just.That's it.But they are not.

lol gay

 

[Vauxhall13]

All I am asking for is liberals/progressives to be fair and just.That's it.But they are not.

Dude, is your fucking space key broken?

 

[systemlord_baal]

Dude, is your fucking space key broken?

Reds Librulls stole his space key.

 

[Cave]

Short version:

Why won't liberals and progressives address and denounce the widespread mass extreme oppression of women in the middle east?It's great hypocrisy that undermines their validity completely.




Fair enough.That is certainly an extreme statement.

But aren't you being hyperbolic as well?

Even though the statements Marjan is making are excessive and extreme they aren't without any underlying truth.

This is a big thing with you that makes interacting with you difficult that I have already said before.

You like to be extremely technical whereas I generally prefer to argue and think in metaphors and analogy and that's usually how I express myself.

But for you everything has to be a 100% literal affair that is perfectly proven and substantiated at every turn or else by your standards it is invalid and incorrect and you will discard it.



Well this is good.At least we are having a actual reasonable discussion right now which is about as juicy for me as a lolcow probably is for you.

I am going to rewatch the video and give you real time interpretation of it so that you can see why I took it the way I did and why I disagree with you.

First she talks about what happened and just states the facts of the situation.That's fine nothing bad there.

Then she says it's unclear if they actually did anything wrong.That's also fair although it's already hypocritical since I'd bet that if the situation involved say white males at a college she'd probably adopt a guilty until proven innocent strategy.However I have no evidence to back up that statement objectively at this point so I will concede that right now.

Then she states the facts about germany letting in 1.1 million refugees and what Angela Merkel's response to the rapes by the refugees in this particular case has been.

Ok that's fine.She just stated some facts.

But right after that is when the spin and propaganda begins.Literally right after the facts get stated.Beginning at 2:10 in the video.

Her first statement is (not verbatim but accurate representations of what she is saying)- "This is not a representation of all islams".Slippery slope introduced.

Then she says "If people come from a culture where women who aren't covered are considered "asking for it" to a culture like Germany then they inevitably will rape some people.It's really a huge cultural difference that needs to be addressed".Notice that she makes no mention of the Muslim culture being wrong they are just "different".

Then the black anchor says "We do need to worry about wheter a safe environment is being created.But we need to make sure that people do not start to judge refugees and Islam off the actions of these small amount of men who are doing these things.Rapes were probably being committed by the native population before these guys ever arrived so we shouldn't judge the Refugees and Islam as a whole based off the actions of these few".Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression in the middle east by my knowledge.

Next female anchor says "We need to create a education program and require refugees to go through it before they are accepted to teach them about our culture."

And now here is her quote verbatim this time right after that:

"The education program is basically getting them accustomed to the cultural differences in this european country.So the way that you treat women in our country is very different from the way that women are treated in your country.You know not to you know violate your own beliefs or whatever but these are our laws and you have to follow our laws."

This part really stuck out to me.Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women in the middle east.In fact it's the opposite here.It's respect for it.

The trend continues after this.There is no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women.It's all about just making the refugees follow the laws while they are in the country.That's as far as it goes.

There is no way you can be intellectually honest at this point and ignore this glaring hypocrisy here.

I literally rewatched the whole entire video a second time to see if I could catch one,just one condemnation of oppression of women in the middle east.I couldn't find a single one.But I could find condemnation of a US rape culture.There is also plenty of praise and acceptance of Islam.

She also ironically laments the rolling stone rape hoax as making people become skeptical to the claims of women that they have been raped but that's exactly what she does at the start of the video in relation to the women raped by the Muslim refugees.So make up your mind Ana,which is it?

Also they talk about how Muslims don't have a rape culture (false) but the US does.So remember the argument they make that only a small number of refugees rape?Well so does a small number of US white men.So how come the US has a "rape" culture but Muslims do not?

The comedian even tries to claim he "doesn't know enough about Muslim culture" to say if it's a rape culture or not.Huh?

Ana Kasparian even says and I quote:

I don't think their culture is "rapey".

She was referring to Muslim culture by the way.



I rewatched the clip and so should anyone else before they listen to you.You misrepresented this to fit your bias here.That is not an accurate representation of what was said.

They don't address oppression of women in the middle east they just address that you are expected to cover up there or you are asking for it.That's it.

To them in this video they literally verbatim claim that US rape culture is a bigger deal than Muslim rape culture.Come on now.

I am literally asking you supdup in the name of intellectual honesty,how can you not admit the glaring hypocrisy here for any reason other than bias and ego and the need to preserve a delusion?

All I am asking for is liberals/progressives to be fair and just.That's it.But they are not.

What?

 

[Vauxhall13]

Reds Librulls stole his space key.

Naw, I say it was eeeeville feminists whittling the time away while waiting to be raped and killed.

 

[Cave]

@Marjan Šiklić How do we solve this Jew problem?

 

[DrChristianTroy]

Lots of #WhiteNonsense

There ya go @cat. Hope this helps.

 

[SlayerOfTyranny]

What that person said in that video is completely the opposite of what @SlayerOfTyranny said they said. I merely gave an example using his words and then their words to demonstrate he was only seeing what he wanted to see. I'm not going to go through a 13-minute video and recap everything for someone who fails to comprehend nuances arguments and only sees in black-and-white.

My only agenda is truth and understanding.If you can demonstrate to me that I am wrong then I will admit it.

I do not intend to be anything other than fair and you can trust me to do so.

 

[CatParty]

My only agenda is truth and understanding.If you can demonstrate to me that I am wrong then I will admit it.

I do not intend to be anything other than fair and you can trust me to do so.

"Devils Advocate...Or maybe just the Devil"

 

[Cave]

"Devils Advocate...Or maybe just the Devil"

It sounds like something Shadow would say in a fan fiction.

 

[Vauxhall13]

I do not intend to be anything other than fair and you can trust me to do so.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.

 

[Cave]

My only agenda is truth and understanding.If you can demonstrate to me that I am wrong then I will admit it.

I do not intend to be anything other than fair and you can trust me to do so.

As a devil's advocate, fairness should go without saying.

 

[HG 400]

Well...I'm kinda thinking you have the disability at this point...

You have been called retarded by Dynastia. What's the best way to prove you're not actually retarded?

1) Ignore it
2) Call him a petrol-sniffing tranny abbo
3) Send him a big salty PM to explain how you're not actually retarded and you shouldn't have to put up with him calling you retarded

 

[4Macie]

You have been called retarded by Dynastia. What's the best way to prove you're not actually retarded?

1) Ignore it
2) Call him a petrol-sniffing tranny abbo
3) Send him a big salty PM to explain how you're not actually retarded and you shouldn't have to put up with him calling you retarded

Can I go with 2? Cuz I think that's a cool answer.

 

[HG 400]

Can I go with 2? Cuz I think that's a cool answer.

You could but I think another pm would really put me in my place.

 

[4Macie]

You could but I think another pm would really put me in my place.

but the PM wasn't even salty...you just read it with the salty voice inside your own head... all the pm was trying to say was that I didn't know if you genuinely thought I was trying to be nice/give advice to Holden.... so I told you why I do it. And then I said, "but I thought I'd clear it up so I no longer have to deal with your "are you retarded?" comments and wonder if you're serious, as I have in the past." I don't care if you think I'm retarded and call me such. I just didn't want you to think I was being serious in my words with Holden. Now you can call me retarded all you want and I will at least know that you understand my words with Holden aren't real.

why can't you just love me?? why must you read everything with salty eyes???

 

[HG 400]

but the PM wasn't even salty...you just read it with the salty voice inside your own head... all the pm was trying to say was that I didn't know if you genuinely thought I was trying to be nice/give advice to Holden.... so I told you why I do it. And then I said, "but I thought I'd clear it up so I no longer have to deal with your "are you retarded?" comments and wonder if you're serious, as I have in the past." I don't care if you think I'm retarded and call me such. I just didn't want you to think I was being serious in my words with Holden. Now you can call me retarded all you want and I will at least know that you understand my words with Holden aren't real.

why can't you just love me?? why must you read everything with salty eyes??? </3

So basically ur not even mad tho? Ur not even mad?

 

[4Macie]

So basically ur not even mad tho? Ur not even mad?

NO!! I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED BY YOU!!

Why won't you love me?!?!? Let's have little retarded babies together!! I believe in us! Won't you believe in us?!?!

 

[HickoryDickory]

My only agenda is truth and understanding.If you can demonstrate to me that I am wrong then I will admit it.

I do not intend to be anything other than fair and you can trust me to do so.

I think a fair point is that no one should take Kasparian seriously. She waffles and admits to everyone being in their own bubbles, but refuses to admit minority faults.

And her nose is a lie.

 

[HG 400]

NO!! I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED BY YOU!!

Why won't you love me?!?!? Let's have little retarded babies together!! I believe in us! Won't you believe in us?!?!

How much weight have you lost since the last photos you sent me?