Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

ThatDarnIrishMan said:
Firstly they won't do Tuskens because that would be racially insensitive now that they've made Tuskens the good guy, nomad, Muslim race in Mando.
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That still really pisses me off. Why can't they just be nomadic raiding party assholes? The obvious answer is because Disney is r*tarded and has to try to justify things that don't need justification. Because God forbid some people in the galaxy are just fucking douchebags that will kill you for your shit. Nope, never happens in reality.

To me this show, like pretty much all these Disney SW shows (except maybe Mandalorian for now), is The Force Unleashed under the Disney banner: cheap, lore-breaking shit that tries to be cool but undermines the established cast, canon and world mechanics at every turn. Only this time, this shit hasn't been canned due to negative reception like it should have been.
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
I decided to watch Obi Wan (obviously pirated since I don't want to give Disney money). It was just okay, really the only issues I had are the action sequences are pretty bad and the Inquisitors are not really interesting. Reva in particular is meh though I won't be surprised if she has some redemption arc given it's clear she was one of the younglings in the opening.

Ewan did a good job and I actually liked Leia in this, she was less annoying than I expected.
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There are a fuck ton of holes in the story tough. How did Reva connect Kenobi and Leia when the best of the empire couldn't? What kind of connection would there even be? Why are Kenobi and Bail acting like they are best pals when they met each other once? Why can't Leia be known by the empire? Isn't she an heiress to one of the noble houses of Aldreean how would that even work? It's also really strange to me that a gang of space pirates would be able to land on Alderaan and kidnap a princess.

But I think most of that can be forgiven even some of the best tv-shows of all time have bad plot writing from time to time (Soparanos comes to mind). But what i can't forgive is the charactarisation of Obi-wan,Leia and the cringy worthy dialouge
Obi-wan kind of seems like a punk an Leia went full girlboss the second episode but she was fine in the third. The inqustitors are not intimidating in anway and Reva is beyond annyoing. The only thing carrying this show so far is Ewans performance but the script is paper thin and other then him there aren't any reedeming qualites the action scenes look cheap and the world looks generic.

SteelPlatedHeart said:
Star Wars told Ewan McGregor that the fans are being a bunch of racists and he should shame them for it.
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I know its often memed on but it really looks like someone is threating him with a gun and forcing him to read a script.
The third episode was a lot stronger then 2 and 1 but its still just in ok category.

"Quinlan was here"
"Oh yes he helps us from time to time"
Cowboi cuck hands wrote those lines.
Quinlan Vos is another one of his ocs that he just can't put down.
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I was gonna be suprised that Filoni manged to write/direct something decent for once until i get to the end of episode 3 where Kenobi gets rescued by some mystery meat woman why couldn't he have escaped using his own wit?
 
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That Chris Guy said:
That still really pisses me off. Why can't they just be nomadic raiding party assholes? The obvious answer is because Disney is r*tarded and has to try to justify things that don't need justification. Because God forbid some people in the galaxy are just fucking douchebags that will kill you for your shit. Nope, never happens in reality.
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Because Lucas is from the Viet Nam generation which grew up on oldschool Westerns which were either Cowboys VS Indians or factual like the one where Burt Lancaster played Massai. No wonder soldiers called Nam Indian country. If you substitute Tatooine for the Frontier then the Jawas are the semi-civilized tribes who you can get along with while the Tuskens are the renegades who'll hang you up by your legs and roast your brain over and open fire for kicks. A successful Tusken raiding party would and should look like something straight from the pages of Blood Meridian IMHO:

“A legion of horribles, hundreds in number, half naked or clad in costumes attic or biblical or wardrobed out of a fevered dream with the skins of animals and silk finery and pieces of uniform still tracked with the blood of prior owners, coats of slain dragoons, frogged and braided cavalry jackets, one in a stovepipe hat and one with an umbrella and one in white stockings and a bloodstained wedding veil and some in headgear or cranefeathers or rawhide helmets that bore the horns of bull or buffalo and one in a pigeontailed coat worn backwards and otherwise naked and one in the armor of a Spanish conquistador, the breastplate and pauldrons deeply dented with old blows of mace or sabre done in another country by men whose very bones were dust and many with their braids spliced up with the hair of other beasts until they trailed upon the ground and their horses’ ears and tails worked with bits of brightly colored cloth and one whose horse’s whole head was painted crimson red and all the horsemen’s faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious, all howling in a barbarous tongue and riding down upon them like a horde from a hell more horrible yet than the brimstone land of Christian reckoning, screeching and yammering and clothed in smoke like those vaporous beings in regions beyond right knowing where the eye wanders and the lip jerks and drools.”

This is description of a Comanche raiding party the main character's troop encountered. The way the Comanche waged war would honestly make the average SS-soldier go pale: gang rapes, slave raids, torture, senseless slaughter and savagery. These warriors raided deep into the heart of Mexico and almost stopped Manifest Destiny. The Apache renegades hiding in the Northern Sierra Madre kept slaughtering Mexicans into the 1930s. They were exterminated by vigilantes led by one tough hombre named Francisco Fimbres who wanted to avenge his wife.

Hollywood will NEVER make a non-revisionist western or portray tribal people as bad guys ever again. Hot water. I remember when the awesome little horror Western flick titled Bone Tomahawk came out. It was bombarded with allegations of racism because the White heroes fight Native cannibal troglodytes even though it also has an educated Native supporting character.
 
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Iceland Heavy said:
I hate to shill Top Gun again so soon after my last post but, well let's just say current year media conditioned me to expect a lot of bullshit from it that I was pleasantly surprised to see completely absent. It actually subverted my expectations by not subverting them at all, you see every line and payoff coming from a mile away but it plays them completely straight without a hint of irony, it's practically the anti-TLJ and not in a completely retarded way like TROS was.
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The new Top Gun is pure kino. No abundance of CGI, all the jets are real and flown by the actual actors, great action, and although there's few blacks and a women, they're all competent members of the team and there's not an ounce of attention given to the fact that they're minorities. No wokeness at all. The studio managed to sell the movie with good action and Cruise's reputation. It's going to be one of the biggest movies of the year. Cruise is always nice to his fans and appreciates them, and in return they're loyal to him. Everyone wins when you have a positive relationship like that.

Meanwhile, you have Soy Wars... Disney constantly resorts to calling the fans racist. Just constant hate and abuse from the studio. Endless belittling and divisiveness. Not an ounce of appreciation, ever. And yet they are shocked when the fans don't support the franchise anymore and have moved on. Soy Wars is a dead irreverent series with no remaining cultural attention.

Top Gun and Cruise are that one teacher who's always nice to his students, tells them they can do well, motivates them, and the students love him back. Soy Wars is that one karen teacher who always belittles all her students and is shocked when they hate her or don't show up to class. Treat people like niggers and they hate you in return.
 
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Chris Mclean said:
I know its often memed on but it really looks like someone is threating him with a gun and forcing him to read a script.
The third episode was a lot stronger then 2 and 1 but its still just in ok category.

"Quinlan was here"
"Oh yes he helps us from time to time"
Cowboi cuck hands wrote those lines.
Quinlan Vos is another one of his ocs that he just can't put down.
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I was gonna be suprised that Filoni manged to write/direct something decent for once until i get to the end of episode 3 where Kenobi gets rescued by some mystery meat woman why couldn't he have escaped using his own wit?
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While you're right about the cowboy cuck always inserting his favorites into everything, Quinlan Vos is actually a character that predates Furloni and was created by Dark Horse writer and author J. Ostrander in collaboration with George to serve as the leading man for a series of comics and was even allowed to appear in TPM to promote them.
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Filoni though got autistically attached to the character and completely rewrote him to be nothing like the character Ostrander envisioned. Only thing they had in common by the time Filoni got threw with him were their looks and a few of their powers. An unproduced episode of Filoni Wars which was later adapted into a hated Disney novel (because as it turns out Filoni's plots are garbage without eyecandy visuals to distract people) would've ruined his character and many others beyond reason.

Filoni probably wants to bring Vos back center-stage and give him his own spinoff which is why they're teasing him in this instead of just leaving him in peace.
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Sneed F91 said:
Happy 2500 pages!

The TFA trailers in retrospect made it obvious this shit wasn't going to be good.
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The very first time that boot-lipped negro popped up on camera and did everything but say "AW, HELL NAW!" I knew it was going to be bad.


Sneed F91 said:
Think of it like this: if JJ had written Luke into TFA and gave him an active role in the film, then Rian wouldn't have been able to ruin the character the way he did without it directly contradicting JJ's movie.
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I admire your optimism, but Rian Johnson already proved that he wasn't going to let something like plot continuity get in the way of shitting on the fans and ruining the trilogy.
 
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The Obi-Wan vs Vader fight was embarrassing, like fan film level bad, and Vader seriously stood there like a moron because Obi-Wan was behind five feet of fire. Disney forced Vader into the show and they can't even use him properly, for fuck's sake.
 
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HeyYou said:
The Obi-Wan vs Vader fight was embarrassing, like fan film level bad, and Vader seriously stood there like a moron because Obi-Wan was behind five feet of fire. Disney forced Vader into the show and they can't even use him properly, for fuck's sake.
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Even shitty fan films can do better than them these days, which is sad when you really think about it. A multibillion dollar rat company can only produce below fanfilm-quality media to pander to the lowest common denominator.
 
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Reva has the detective skills of The Batman. She just instinctive knows to immediately walk and look at the right things.

I don't mind Obi-Wan running away from Vader but how that fight scene ended was pure garbage.

Obi-Wan seems like a clueless fool most of the time fooling others.

It is others saving him.
 
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HeyYou said:
The Obi-Wan vs Vader fight was embarrassing, like fan film level bad, and Vader seriously stood there like a moron because Obi-Wan was behind five feet of fire. Disney forced Vader into the show and they can't even use him properly, for fuck's sake.
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It comes to mind just how sloppy the requires to the scripts were and how everything felt so random.
 
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I wonder how the fanboys who waited for this stupid fucking bullshit feel right now
I really wonder if it was worth it for them
Was it worth it you motherfuckers?

ThatDarnIrishMan said:
...oh but Leia? She's a general. Leader of the rebellion. She never gave up on her dream and her mission. She's just so incredible.
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imo Leia an abject failure in every way, just like Han and Luke, but the movies have absolutely no self awareness and they're made by complete idiots who either didn't notice or didn't care because they'd rather push a feminist message over the reality of the situation. Leia watched her home planet get destroyed and fought a meaningless fight her entire life against the Empire for a better future that never ended up happening because her own son betrayed her, turning into a whiny, autistic, emo school shooter manchild obsessed with his grandfather who helped tear down everything she fought for in the OT, and the Empire somehow returned. She put her work above her family while her husband regressed into a pathetic old man and ran away.

Throughout the entire sequel trilogy she's massively incompetent and makes idiotic decisions like wasting time looking for her brother who doesn't want to be found or not warning anyone about what the First Order is going to do with Starkiller Base before they blow 5 planets up when they have the plans for it. She sends some random teenage girl she doesn't know to meet her brother in person instead of going herself. The Republic dislikes her so much they don't even bother helping out until Episode 9 when Sheev comes back somehow. Rian put her in a coma. She was a fucking princess of a planet, now she's an geriatric general of a privately funded military (fuck off TFA). She absolutely refuses to confront her faggot son, the one thing that could stop the war for, NO APARENT REASON until the very last movie where doing so kills her. By the way, she was also a Jedi but she quit to focus on her family because her son would die or something, but he ended up dying anyways.

TLDR I fucking hate what Disney did to Leia
 
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