Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[Chilson]

you schizophrenic anarchist retards have been predicting SHTF for decades now (probably since the original counterculture movement presented itself as a foil to Goldwater conservatism, because the kidsthosedays thought they were rebelling against the "system"), and it's never going to happen. instead of fantasizing about "muh oppressive system" that supposedly prevents anything good from happening crashing down, find something to do that actually helps you or something you care about.

Well for one, I am not a schizo anarchist. I don't think this is a good thing, but you would have to be absolutely retarded to not see massive global hyper inflation, 50+ trillion dollars of worldwide unsustainable debt, a global supply chain network on the verge of collapse, world economic charts doing volatile chartwheels on the daily, multiple shortages in goods across the board and not think that something REALLY bad is about to happen.

This has been building since the governments (specifically the US) started dropping national bank rates in the 80's, building up to the moronic quantitative easing of 2008 and the massive unwarranted over spending (and corruption) from Covid fun bux that has only sped up this inevitable collapse.

What is for certain is that the golden age conditions that breed people like Destiny will come to an end, which is probably the only good thing that will come out of this.

 

[sidekek]

Well for one, I am not a schizo anarchist. I don't think this is a good thing, but you would have to be absolutely retarded to not see massive global hyper inflation, 50+ trillion dollars of worldwide unsustainable debt, a global supply chain network on the verge of collapse, world economic charts doing volatile chartwheels on the daily, multiple shortages in goods across the board and not think that something REALLY bad is about to happen.

This has been building since the governments (specifically the US) started dropping national bank rates in the 80's, building up to the moronic quantitative easing of 2008 and the massive unwarranted over spending (and corruption) from Covid fun bux that has only sped up this inevitable collapse.

What is for certain is that the golden age conditions that breed people like Destiny will come to an end, which is probably the only good thing that will come out of this.

the issue with that idea is that there is no actual failure condition for a system built on lies. once you achieve self-stability, no jarring within tolerances can bring it down, because the power comes from internal belief and any potential issue is backfilled by more systemic intervention. FDR's handling of the Great Depression set a standard -- in the event of an economic collapse, the powers that be will simply guide the market in whatever pattern they think will help -- the banks will be bailed out using monies created in the moment and wholly for their convenience, and that will create some semblance of normal trade until people generally forget they are supposed to be panicking.
from an external point of view it is obvious that trillions of dollars of worldwide debt is an issue, but instantaneously? the average person accepts it /in the moment/, which promotes the acceptance of it in the next moment, and so on forever by the power of infinite induction.
it's not like we're going to run out of imaginary money to burn for the purpose of re-tracking the economy -- Keynesian economics and QE may be conventionally moronic, but it does seem to work for the purposes of smoothing market crashes.
thanks for brushing off the 'schizo retard anarchist' thing by the way, I probably didn't include enough actual content to justify it and sometimes people fixate on the superficial parts -- it's a credit to your character and worth mentioning.

 

[Chilson]

the issue with that idea is that there is no actual failure condition for a system built on lies. once you achieve self-stability, no jarring within tolerances can bring it down, because the power comes from internal belief and any potential issue is backfilled by more systemic intervention. FDR's handling of the Great Depression set a standard -- in the event of an economic collapse, the powers that be will simply guide the market in whatever pattern they think will help -- the banks will be bailed out using monies created in the moment and wholly for their convenience, and that will create some semblance of normal trade until people generally forget they are supposed to be panicking.
from an external point of view it is obvious that trillions of dollars of worldwide debt is an issue, but instantaneously? the average person accepts it /in the moment/, which promotes the acceptance of it in the next moment, and so on forever by the power of infinite induction.
it's not like we're going to run out of imaginary money to burn for the purpose of re-tracking the economy -- Keynesian economics and QE may be conventionally moronic, but it does seem to work for the purposes of smoothing market crashes.

It only works temporarily though. That is the problem, "temporarily" has clearly ended since hyper inflation and good shortages are setting in. QE and Keynesian economics can only buy time, which after 14 years (some, like myself, would add several decades to that number) is coming to an end. The crash that should have been allowed to play out in full during 2008 was merely delayed (and made exponentially worse) until 2022-23-24 maybe at the latest if your EXTREMELY optimistic.

You can't spend your way out of hyper inflation or good shortages, but democracies are incapable of making the necessary spending cuts/raising the FED rate drastically and the powers that be seem adamant about keeping control of the goods markets in the governments hands, who are fucking them up with typical government inefficiency and corruption.

This is not something that can be fixed easily. Either you let it play out and live in hyper inflated hell, or you face a massive economic crash from raising FED rates and decreasing spending. If we let things play out in 2008 and everything was allowed to drop to a more reasonable value then we wouldn't be in this position. But that is hindsight, are reality now is something far worse.

People don't just sit back and shrug when they can't get their necessary goods at affordable prices, if at all. Which is playing out across the nation right now.

 

[sidekek]

This is not something that can be fixed easily. Either you let it play out and live in hyper inflated hell, or you face a massive economic crash. If we let things play out in 2008 and everything was allowed to drop to a more reasonable value then we wouldn't be in this position. But that is hindsight, are reality now is something far worse.

my guessing favors the former outcome -- we will never again have a Laissez-faire approach to economic governance like Coolidge and Hoover had, and so the people will never again experience a crash on anywhere near the same level as the Great Depression.

People don't just sit back and shrug when they can't get their necessary goods at affordable prices, if at all.

of course they do -- the FDR or the Nixon or the Obama of the time will freeze the market at an acceptable if not ideal point, and after enough lies are dispensed to cover up the issue business will resume as normal.

If we let things play out in 2008 and everything was allowed to drop to a more reasonable value then we wouldn't be in this position.

the reasonable response to a market panic has always been to let it play out, but when QE buys time it pulls from an infinite space of imagined resources -- as long as the people continue as before, there is no actual reason for it to fail. the only failure case I can imagine is a temporary crash that lasts longer than the prop-up period can be sustained for, which would require some external force shaking common belief in the system.

 

[Noom Boom]

It only works temporarily though. That is the problem, "temporarily" has clearly ended since hyper inflation and good shortages are setting in. QE and Keynesian economics can only buy time, which after 14 years (some, like myself, would add several decades to that number) is coming to an end. The crash that should have been allowed to play out in full during 2008 was merely delayed (and made exponentially worse) until 2022-23-24 maybe at the latest if your EXTREMELY optimistic.

You can't spend your way out of hyper inflation or good shortages, but democracies are incapable of making the necessary spending cuts/raising the FED rate drastically and the powers that be seem adamant about keeping control of the goods markets in the governments hands, who are fucking them up with typical government inefficiency and corruption.

This is not something that can be fixed easily. Either you let it play out and live in hyper inflated hell, or you face a massive economic crash from raising FED rates and decreasing spending. If we let things play out in 2008 and everything was allowed to drop to a more reasonable value then we wouldn't be in this position. But that is hindsight, are reality now is something far worse.

People don't just sit back and shrug when they can't get their necessary goods at affordable prices, if at all. Which is playing out across the nation right now.

Naw man, you're doomering about the hyperinflation thing. Rates are expected to return to normal by the end of the year and we're nowhere near what we've experienced in the past. We're sitting at about 7% for 2021 and 8% for 2022 compared to between 14 and 18% in 1917 to 1920 or 8 and 14% in 46' to 48' or 6 to 13% in 74' to 82'. Also, people are grumpy about gas and meat prices, but when you step away from the internet, no one really says anything more than "I hope gas falls" and that's it.

Now we are hyper-partisan and laws don't seem to be passing like the should or need to be, so something might happen there, but the economy is just fine and with full tummies and a TV to watch, no one is participating in a revolution anytime soon.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

This is a common strategy of Destiny, distilled into his fanbase; finding one arbitrary, shaky factoid in a large post in an attempt to discredit the entirety of it.

Lauren Southern fucking people in exchange for clout, articles and scripts is an established fact, yet they exaggerate the actual claim in an attempt to obscure it (Wow... Lauren Southern literally fucking half of the conservative movement? That's so many people... Completely preposterous!)

I wouldn't be surprised if Destiny is now helping her in this way. Lauren's access to competent people in the right wing political scene is cut off since her reputation is diminished (aside from the grifters who are useless idiots) so Destiny is the next best thing for her.

Destiny isn’t going to fuck Lauren (if she isn’t getting in-kind compensation out of it at least)

This is just an elaborate ruse to piss off Ethan Ralph, who thirsts after those botulusm induced facial palsy wall-smasher plastic coal-burning leaf sisters. Disgusting and sad. (Source: I made it up )


They will take a fake post-coital photo in bed, and post it to socials right before Gunt goes on a trip somewhere, so that he rage pigs the entire time and does something really stupid like smack Meigh around on camera or assault a cop

 

[Alexhypethrow19992]

 

[tantric_depressive]

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Mfw Destiny's in a polycube with Kyle & Sinead from Renegade Radio

 

[Nogglor]

@Destiny Finish the manifesto, nigger.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

@Destiny What is your opinion on the CJS? Do you think violent criminals can be rehabilitated (and if they can, that it’s worth it as it would be incredibly expensive and still risky).

A lot of right wing rhetoric stems from the fact that progressives seem to be pro-crime and will rationalize criminals’ behavior while scrutinizing peaceful law abiding citizens

 

[LukeMcGregor]

Destiny may be the least autistic person in the thread now

 

[Destiny]

@Destiny What is your opinion on the CJS? Do you think violent criminals can be rehabilitated (and if they can, that it’s worth it as it would be incredibly expensive and still risky).

A lot of right wing rhetoric stems from the fact that progressives seem to be pro-crime and will rationalize criminals’ behavior while scrutinizing peaceful law abiding citizens

Rehabilitation would be nice, but 1) I don't know if society would accept it for serious crimes ("the person who raped/murdered 3 people is being released???") and 2) I'm not sure if any country has successfully figured out how to "rehabilitate" people who are committing extreme crimes.

You can rationalize criminal behavior but it doesn't make it any better for people in society who have to deal with said behavior.

 

[Sneedlerino]

Rehabilitation would be nice, but 1) I don't know if society would accept it for serious crimes ("the person who raped/murdered 3 people is being released???") and 2) I'm not sure if any country has successfully figured out how to "rehabilitate" people who are committing extreme crimes.

You can rationalize criminal behavior but it doesn't make it any better for people in society who have to deal with said behavior.

Okay, how? How would you rehabilitate them? Force medicate them? You can't as you can't keep an eye on them 24/7. Castrate them? That'd probably get a bunch of lawsuits due to cruel and unusual treatment. Send them to therapy? That doesn't work unless the person actually wants to be better.

No. The vast majority of people on the planet wouldn't be keen on a murderer/rapist who's been "rehabilitated" running around their neighborhood. For good reason.

There is no rehabilitation for extreme crimes. Sometimes, people are legit fucking dangerous and they will keep harming others until they themselves are put away, or put down.

You also need to take into consideration that prison is to protect the community, but it is also used to protect the offender as lynchings do happen.

You seem to have a level view of this and I believe that you and I agree on this topic.

I still don't fucking like you, though.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

Rehabilitation would be nice, but 1) I don't know if society would accept it for serious crimes ("the person who raped/murdered 3 people is being released???") and 2) I'm not sure if any country has successfully figured out how to "rehabilitate" people who are committing extreme crimes.

You can rationalize criminal behavior but it doesn't make it any better for people in society who have to deal with said behavior.

I’d be in agreement mostly. I was just asking because recently there was a poll/data on those planning to leave SF and it seems the main reason is crime. I feel like in many ways although you’re on the online left you are much more reasonable than some mainstream progressive figures - even if you maybe sympathize with their positions.

I can tell you from personal exp in western NE, that a large element of resistance to progressive ideas in general is the fear that their ideas will lead to and be permissive of crime - specifically violent crime. Of course this can be exacerbated with stories in the news but I think it is sort of baked into the ideology to blame poverty when it’s not that simple at all (especially for things like sexual assault and home invasions and stuff).

I think you discussing this in a reasonable way would help bring a lot of otherwise normiecons over to your side.

 

[skjora]

The main purpose of a criminal justice system is to keep people from "taking matters into their own hands" and start blood feuding and lynching willy nilly. However, at what punitive level people feel justice is served enough for them not to seek it themselves probably varies a lot with culture.
The secondary purpose is to keep the peace. I think this is best done by having fairly long prison sentences purely to incapacitate criminals during their otherwise most active years. Conditions must be secure, fairly dull but humane. Rehabilitation attempts during incarceration are fine as long as they serve their full sentences.

 

[Freesia]

@Blav

This site should understand that the cucking insults actually don't affect him that much,

I disagree. I think Steven is very insecure and hates to be reminded that he's a cuck.

We agree that Melina is a black hole with no personality, though. If anything Melina being such a dumb bitch shows that Steven was full of shit all those times he said he needs a woman to be intellectually engaging for him. It turns out women don't have to know much about economics or politics. They can be 70 IQ retards cause as long as they're a 7/10 blonde thot they will still please the little goblin.

 

[Noom Boom]

@Blav

I disagree. I think Steven is very insecure and hates to be reminded that he's a cuck.

We agree that Melina is a black hole with no personality, though. If anything Melina being such a dumb bitch shows that Steven was full of shit all those times he said he needs a woman to be intellectually engaging for him. It turns out women don't have to know much about economics or politics. They can be 70 IQ retards cause as long as they're a 7/10 blonde thot they will still please the little goblin.

I'm 50/50 on this. I agree it probably bothers him some, but not the fact she's having sex with other people, but the she is actually disrespectful to him sometimes. Like she will openly call him names and insults that he has explicitly asked her not to call him on stream, but she continues to do it to this day. Now if you decide that you want an open relationship, whatever, but you still have to respect your partners wishes and sacrifice what you want to do for the wellbeing of your marriage.

And I actually disagree on the second part, I don't think they have very many stimulating conversations at all. If I had to guess, I'd say she's quiet boring to him.

 

[Chilson]

Now if you decide that you want an open relationship, whatever, but you still have to respect your partners wishes and sacrifice what you want to do for the wellbeing of your marriage.

Being in an open relationship really isn't a "whatever" kind of situation. An open relationship NECESSITATES you are disrespectful to your partner and unwilling to sacrifice your own selfish desires for the good of the relationship, otherwise you would just be in a normal healthy monogamous relationship.

Pretending otherwise is just the highest levels of cope.

 

[lemonarm2]

Troons VS Tiny Episode 4576

https://twitter.com/IsabelleDotJpeg/status/1533173025146695680

 

[Skitarii]

@Destiny, Hasan has an account here called @CanerAkcay that he uses to troll rw chuds. Maybe you should msg him and do a collab to smash the heteronormative patriarchy