US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Garm]

I don't think Trump or Biden will run in 2024.

But also on sites like predictit it's showing that people think the GOP primary is about even between Trump and DeSantis.

If the economy were better, I think we'd see Biden closer to -5, which would be well within re-election range. Typically incumbents don't lose until they're in the < -20 range.

@Gehenna Does that last bit sound about right to you? It is in regards to Biden's approval rating.

 

[Certified_Autist]

Every able bodied man in states that raise the minimum age to own a firearm to 21 should refuse to join the military. See how they react when they can't send people off to die in their wars.

Selective Service Act would still apply if they were desperate for soldiers. (For non Americans that's basically a registration for the draft that every male has to sign up for when they turn 1

 

[soy_king]

WELP, mark NY down as one of the "21 to buy guns" states that Biden said he wanted yesterday.

Article: https://longisland.news12.com/new-york-passes-bill-raising-age-to-buy-own-semi-automatic-rifles
Archive: https://archive.ph/PZZ5h
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New York passes bill raising age to buy, own semi-automatic rifles

New York's legislature voted Thursday to ban anyone under age 21 from buying or possessing a semi-automatic rifle, a major change to state firearm laws pushed through less than three weeks after an 18-year-old used one of the guns to kill 10 people at a supermarket in Buffalo.

The bill raising the age limit is the most significant part of a package of gun control measures announced earlier this week by Democratic legislative leaders and Gov. Kathy Hochul.

Other new legislation will restrict civilian purchases of bullet-resistant armor, which was worn by the killer in Buffalo, and require new guns to be equipped with microstamping technology that can help law enforcement investigators trace bullets to particular firearms.

The age limit bill passed the Senate along party lines, 43-20, and in the Assembly 102-47, and will now head to Hochul's desk for her signature.

New York already requires people to be 21 to possess a handgun. Younger people would still be allowed to have other types of rifles and shotguns under the new law, but would be unable to buy the type of fast-firing rifles used by the 18-year-old gunmen in the mass shootings in Buffalo and at a Texas elementary school.

Besides raising the legal purchase age to 21, the bill would also require anyone buying a semi-automatic rifle to get a license - something now only required for handguns.

Many Republicans opposed the new gun limitations, arguing they would inconvenience law-abiding firearms owners and could be easily circumvented by people determined to get weapons.

Sen. Gustavo Rivera, a Bronx Democrat, said he had no problem putting up obstacles.

“It is meant to be a hassle to those folks who might want to get their hands quickly on something with which they could mass murder people," he said.

The age limit change would largely impact areas outside New York City, which already requires permits to possess, carry and purchase any type of firearm and prohibits most applicants under 21.

New York would join a handful of states - including Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Vermont and Washington - that require buyers to be at least 21 instead of 18 to purchase some types of long guns. Similar legislation has been proposed in Utah.

Legal fights over the legislation are expected. New York's law limiting who can get a handgun license is already the subject of a lawsuit now before the U.S. Supreme Court.

California's attempt to raise the legal buying age for semi-automatic weapons has also been challenged.

On May 11, a U.S. appeals court panel in northern California ruled 2-1 that the state’s ban on the sale of semi-automatic weapons to adults under 21 is unconstitutional. The two judges who ruled in the majority were part of Republican President Donald Trump’s wave of conservative-approved nominees that reshaped the famously liberal court.

The National Rifle Association is also challenging Florida's ban on the sale of rifles and other firearms to adults under age 21, which was passed in the wake of a 2018 shooting that killed 17 students and staff at a high school in Parkland.

Semi-automatic rifles automatically load each bullet after firing, although firing requires pulling the trigger for each round. That makes it possible for mass murderers to kill more people in a short amount of time.

Previously, people as young as 16 could possess long guns like rifles and shotguns without a license in New York, although they had to be 18 to buy one from a federally licensed firearms dealer.

Sen. Alexis Weik, a Republican of Long Island, pointed out that an 18 year old could still travel to another state and buy a semi-automatic rifle.

Sen. Kevin Thomas, a Long Island Democrat and one of the bill’s sponsors, replied, “Are you advocating for federal gun control? Because that what’s needed.”

New York lawmakers were also passing legislation expanding the list of people who can apply for an extreme risk protection order, a court order that can temporarily prohibit someone from purchasing or possessing a firearm if they are believed to be a danger to themselves or others.

“Even as we take action to protect New Yorkers, we recognize that this is a nationwide problem. I once again urge Congress to seize this moment and pass meaningful gun violence prevention measures. We have no time to waste,” Hochul said in a statement.
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If you're so concerned with preventing gun deaths, why are you also banning bullet proof vests? surely you would want those to be more available if this was actually about safety.

 

[Some Badger]

No, it's just Great Reset own-nothing pod-living bug-eating stuff. With incredibly expensive gas, you can't go anywhere or afford food.

I know it’s WEF shit but I’m talking about the short term. The Great Reset is a long term plan on borrowed time because the leading heads of Davos are all pushing 90. I just don’t think it’s implausible for the administration to stretch out the energy crisis for as long as possible in hopes that they can stuff the proverbial ballot box the way they did in 2020.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Selective Service Act would still apply if they were desperate for soldiers. (For non Americans that's basically a registration for the draft that every male has to sign up for when they turn 1

They should still refuse to comply. "Why should I defend a nation that won't defend my rights"

 

[Caustic Gelatin]

Fuck off with that. If the police don't wanna go save the kids, that's on them, but don't punish someone else for stopping it. I'm pretty sure petty jurisdiction bitching stops at "kids are being shot" levels of fucked up.

Edit: Additionally, how would they even do anything about it? What are you gonna have the cops do in the moment, point their guns at DHS and say it'd be a crime to go stop that shooting? Just fucking stupid.

Its a federal crime to interrupt interrupt a FBI operation.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Contempt, for defying the J6 Inquisition.

And then there's this asshole:

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Cicilline always reminds me of the retarded kid who wanted to join the mafia, but got wedgied by the real wannabee mafia kids until they stuck him in an office to launder money.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Its a federal crime to interrupt interrupt a FBI operation.

If DHS and the FBI and the local police want to get into a big shootout over who should be allowed to murder more children, go right ahead. They're all fucked for different reasons, and threatening me with a good time ain't gonna stop me from cheering that gunfight on.

Does it even count as glowposting to encourage feds to kill other feds? Or is that just standard operating procedure at this point.

 

[Thomas Talus]

It may seem like a surprising thing that the R candidate is leading in Oregon polling, but the only person on that ballot who isn't salivating at the idea of disarming the citizenry is Betsy Johnson, the independent candidate who is essentially a Dixiecrat.

I'd heard something about Johnson also going soft on guns within the last few days, but didn't have a chance to get the details.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

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I have used this line of reasoning a few times when people have used the weapons of war/military weapons argument. The military isn't using a crappy semi auto only ARs like the dozens you'll see at any gun show, they're select fire, but the local Fudd's mid-market remington 700 varmint; that's practically identical to an M24/M40 in form and function, but if it's on a wood stock it wouldn't even provoke a second glance from a MUH ASSAULT WEAPONS activist's face. Not to mention various mossbergs and bennelis which are functionally if not also visually identical to those used by the military. Pistols are a losing issue though and not worth bringing up, these same people who want AR15s banned almost invariably also think you should not be allowed to own or carry a pistol, especially if they are familiar with the VA Tech shooting, which was done with two extremely common handguns.

 

[tehpope]

Apparently, in the Biden inflation speech, he is going to fight inflation by printing more money to inject into the economy.

Venezuela here we come.

Stock up on food and supplies. Buy silver, bullets, and smokes.

 

[ShortBusDriver]

WELP, mark NY down as one of the "21 to buy guns" states that Biden said he wanted yesterday.

Article: https://longisland.news12.com/new-york-passes-bill-raising-age-to-buy-own-semi-automatic-rifles
Archive: https://archive.ph/PZZ5h
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New York passes bill raising age to buy, own semi-automatic rifles

New York's legislature voted Thursday to ban anyone under age 21 from buying or possessing a semi-automatic rifle, a major change to state firearm laws pushed through less than three weeks after an 18-year-old used one of the guns to kill 10 people at a supermarket in Buffalo.

The bill raising the age limit is the most significant part of a package of gun control measures announced earlier this week by Democratic legislative leaders and Gov. Kathy Hochul.

Other new legislation will restrict civilian purchases of bullet-resistant armor, which was worn by the killer in Buffalo, and require new guns to be equipped with microstamping technology that can help law enforcement investigators trace bullets to particular firearms.

The age limit bill passed the Senate along party lines, 43-20, and in the Assembly 102-47, and will now head to Hochul's desk for her signature.

New York already requires people to be 21 to possess a handgun. Younger people would still be allowed to have other types of rifles and shotguns under the new law, but would be unable to buy the type of fast-firing rifles used by the 18-year-old gunmen in the mass shootings in Buffalo and at a Texas elementary school.

Besides raising the legal purchase age to 21, the bill would also require anyone buying a semi-automatic rifle to get a license - something now only required for handguns.

Many Republicans opposed the new gun limitations, arguing they would inconvenience law-abiding firearms owners and could be easily circumvented by people determined to get weapons.

Sen. Gustavo Rivera, a Bronx Democrat, said he had no problem putting up obstacles.

“It is meant to be a hassle to those folks who might want to get their hands quickly on something with which they could mass murder people," he said.

The age limit change would largely impact areas outside New York City, which already requires permits to possess, carry and purchase any type of firearm and prohibits most applicants under 21.

New York would join a handful of states - including Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Vermont and Washington - that require buyers to be at least 21 instead of 18 to purchase some types of long guns. Similar legislation has been proposed in Utah.

Legal fights over the legislation are expected. New York's law limiting who can get a handgun license is already the subject of a lawsuit now before the U.S. Supreme Court.

California's attempt to raise the legal buying age for semi-automatic weapons has also been challenged.

On May 11, a U.S. appeals court panel in northern California ruled 2-1 that the state’s ban on the sale of semi-automatic weapons to adults under 21 is unconstitutional. The two judges who ruled in the majority were part of Republican President Donald Trump’s wave of conservative-approved nominees that reshaped the famously liberal court.

The National Rifle Association is also challenging Florida's ban on the sale of rifles and other firearms to adults under age 21, which was passed in the wake of a 2018 shooting that killed 17 students and staff at a high school in Parkland.

Semi-automatic rifles automatically load each bullet after firing, although firing requires pulling the trigger for each round. That makes it possible for mass murderers to kill more people in a short amount of time.

Previously, people as young as 16 could possess long guns like rifles and shotguns without a license in New York, although they had to be 18 to buy one from a federally licensed firearms dealer.

Sen. Alexis Weik, a Republican of Long Island, pointed out that an 18 year old could still travel to another state and buy a semi-automatic rifle.

Sen. Kevin Thomas, a Long Island Democrat and one of the bill’s sponsors, replied, “Are you advocating for federal gun control? Because that what’s needed.”

New York lawmakers were also passing legislation expanding the list of people who can apply for an extreme risk protection order, a court order that can temporarily prohibit someone from purchasing or possessing a firearm if they are believed to be a danger to themselves or others.

“Even as we take action to protect New Yorkers, we recognize that this is a nationwide problem. I once again urge Congress to seize this moment and pass meaningful gun violence prevention measures. We have no time to waste,” Hochul said in a statement.
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Keep in mind NY did this after it was already overturned in California.

 

[thismanlies]

House Dems now want an investigation into the Border Patrol guy who killed the shooter, over technicalities.

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What the FUCK is the point of saving innocent lives if you're just gonna be treated like a criminal for it? Fuck these vermin with a broken Maker's Mark bottle.

>We commend the law enforcement personnel who responded to the shooting

You mean the same ones you’ve been shitting on for standing outside while their chief was sitting and spinning on his own thumb? Remember this when they tell you gun control is about saving lives. It isn’t. It’s about letting the public watch them cry their bullshit crocodile tears while trying to disarm everyone.

 

[Sithis]

Selective Service Act would still apply if they were desperate for soldiers. (For non Americans that's basically a registration for the draft that every male has to sign up for when they turn 1

Lmao I still don't know how but I never bothered registering with SS and never got hassled for it. Like I got the packet with the stuff I was supposed to do when I got my license, and just....didn't.

Just saying guys, nothing bad has happened yet

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

>We commend the law enforcement personnel who responded to the shooting

You mean the same ones you’ve been shitting on for standing outside while their chief was sitting and spinning on his own thumb? Remember this when they tell you gun control is about saving lives. It isn’t. It’s about letting the public watch them cry their bullshit crocodile tears while trying to disarm everyone.

Remember, they called the DHS Nazi stormtroopers when Trump sent them to do supportive operations in Portland against people targeting a federal courthouse. The only reason they would change their tune in the least bit now is that they now think the DHS are their stormtroopers.

 

[The Ugly One]

Stock up on food and supplies. Buy silver, bullets, and smokes.

I read this without the comma between "silver" and "bullets," and it seemed sane to me.

 

[John McAfee]

Lmao I still don't know how but I never bothered registering with SS and never got hassled for it. Like I got the packet with the stuff I was supposed to do when I got my license, and just....didn't.

Just saying guys, nothing bad has happened yet

They just withhold the ability to get FASFA, outside of that they dont do much to you.

 

[elite_club]

House Dems now want an investigation into the Border Patrol guy who killed the shooter, over technicalities.

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What the FUCK is the point of saving innocent lives if you're just gonna be treated like a criminal for it? Fuck these vermin with a broken Maker's Mark bottle.

Listen here chud, votes at 1 A.M. that are 97% towards one candidate with little to no engagement with downballot candidates is entirely reasonable, but don't you understand that its a conspiracy that the Border Patrol might have people who are awake and willing to voluntarily take on a threat that local grift pigs(who should take your guns because you're a far right conspiracy theorist) deemed "contained."

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

 

[Constellationzero]

They just withhold the ability to get FASFA, outside of that they dont do much to you.

Now, that's just wrong.
How are they supposed to get a BA in Backwards Muslim Black Lesbian Disabled Dance Theory? You want them learning from Kahn Academy? Is that what you want?