Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[SCSI]

Or simply that food supplies must go through the government. Process as follows:
1) Induce food shortages
2) De facto seize remaining food production by demanding government purchase takes priority:
--> "We can't allow the rich to simply buy up all the food and leave people to starve. We must enact these compulsory sale laws now..."
--> Note, the rich will still be able to buy up food. But regular folks will be pushed into the same rationing system as everyone else. They wont call it rationing. They'll have a term like "Emergency allocations" or "Food reservations."
3) Maintain situation in perpetuity. Continue to consolidate farm and food production under merger of state and corporations. Bureaucracy / fees / whatever that are onerous to independent farmers to further push sale of land towards Bill Gates and cronies.

Bang - fascism as Mussolini defined it. They just wont call it that or acknowledge it as a permanent thing. That's a more likely scenario. Doors kicked in will be for those independent farmers who attempt to resist the bureaucracy with force.

Shades of Wickard v. Filburn, but cranked up to Clown World.

Disclaimer -- This is a lazy off the cuff "the vibe reminds me of" post, not a legal sperganalysis effortpost.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Shades of Wickard v. Filburn, but cranked up to Clown World.

Disclaimer -- This is a lazy off the cuff "the vibe reminds me of" post, not a legal sperganalysis effortpost.

More like Holodomor USA edition. Except with an actual OUN and enough firearms to make African warlords wet.

 

[Constellationzero]

Or simply that food supplies must go through the government. Process as follows:
1) Induce food shortages
2) De facto seize remaining food production by demanding government purchase takes priority:
--> "We can't allow the rich to simply buy up all the food and leave people to starve. We must enact these compulsory sale laws now..."
--> Note, the rich will still be able to buy up food. But regular folks will be pushed into the same rationing system as everyone else. They wont call it rationing. They'll have a term like "Emergency allocations" or "Food reservations."
3) Maintain situation in perpetuity. Continue to consolidate farm and food production under merger of state and corporations. Bureaucracy / fees / whatever that are onerous to independent farmers to further push sale of land towards Bill Gates and cronies.

Bang - fascism as Mussolini defined it. They just wont call it that or acknowledge it as a permanent thing. That's a more likely scenario. Doors kicked in will be for those independent farmers who attempt to resist the bureaucracy with force.

Brought this up before. Gonna leave these here.

Dean Foods To Close Illinois Milk Plant

The milk giant Dean Foods is closing one of its Illinois facilities this year.

www.cbsnews.com

Dean Foods to close Illinois dairy plant

HUNTLEY, Ill. — The milk giant Dean Foods is closing one of its Illinois facilities this year. A Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act letter sent by the Texas-based corporation says 13…

wgntv.com

So... how soon before "ERMAHGERDDD, powdered milk is gone!! Illegal to purchase too, ERMAGERRD!"

 

[murdered meat bag]

Brought this up before. Gonna leave these here.

Dean Foods To Close Illinois Milk Plant

The milk giant Dean Foods is closing one of its Illinois facilities this year.

www.cbsnews.com

Dean Foods to close Illinois dairy plant

HUNTLEY, Ill. — The milk giant Dean Foods is closing one of its Illinois facilities this year. A Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act letter sent by the Texas-based corporation says 13…

wgntv.com

So... how soon before "ERMAHGERDDD, powdered milk is gone!! Illegal to purchase too, ERMAGERRD!"

this stems from the overall downturn in dairy sales and increase in almond milk and vegan alternatives. dairy farmers poured milk down the drain for 5 years or so.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Milk is still a regional product. The fact that a dairy plant in Illinois is closing to me is proof of increase in soy consumption in the Chicago area. This has also been an issue on the east coast as the coastal cities consume less milk, dairies in NY PA VT and MA have been shutting down for the past 10 years. Bad for supply issues, good if you want to buy a 50-100hp utility tractor that is old enough not to have the pesky electronics issues or require government juice.

 

[Constellationzero]

Chemung and the area surrounding is going to really feel it. For one thing, the only other thing in Chemung is one hole in the wall bar right in front of the plant, and a church across 173.
Capron and Harvard are the two closest towns. With gas prices the way they are, and the smallness of the surrounding communities, not sure what will happen once these people are out of work.

Brandon Admin. would just go: "Lol, just get a job in Harvard, lol!"
The fuck job would that be? Motorola? The abandoned fucking backrooms pocket universe of northern Illinois?
Janesville? But then you might not even make enough to pay for gas to get to the job, let alone pay bills.

 

[SCSI]

More like Holodomor USA edition. Except with an actual OUN and enough firearms to make African warlords wet.

Your point and mine have a certain amount in common -- one of the reasons Wickard was such an abomination, morally as well as legally, is its part of the larger mosaic of agricultural and legal bullshit that went on. If you're not familiar with it already, look up the Agricultural Adjustment Act sometime if you want to experience some white-hot fury. Fuck FDR, if there's a Hell, I hope he's burning in it.

"The goal of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, restoring farm purchasing power of agricultural commodities or the fair exchange value of a commodity based upon price relative to the prewar 1909–14 level, was to be accomplished through a number of methods. These included the authorization by the Secretary of Agriculture (1) to secure voluntary reduction of the acreage in basic crops through agreements with producers and use of direct payments for participation in acreage control programs; (2) to regulate marketing through voluntary agreements with processors, associations or producers, and other handlers of agricultural commodities or products; (3) to license processors, association, and others handling agricultural commodities to eliminate unfair practices or charges; (4) to determine the necessity for and the rate or processing taxes; and (5) to use the proceeds of taxes and appropriate funds for the cost of adjustment operations, for the expansion of markets, and for the removal or agricultural surpluses."[11]

"Congress declared its intent, at the same time, to protect the consumers interest. This was to be done by readjusting farm production at a level that would not increase the percentage of consumers' retail expenditures above the percentage returned to the farmer in the prewar base period."[11]

The juxtaposition of huge agricultural surpluses and the many deaths due to insufficient food shocked many, as well as some of the administrative decisions that happened under the Agricultural Adjustment Act.[12] For example, in an effort to reduce agricultural surpluses, the government paid farmers to reduce crop production[13] and to sell pregnant sows as well as young pigs.[14] Oranges were being soaked with kerosene to prevent their consumption and corn was being burned as fuel because it was so cheap.[12] There were many people, however, as well as livestock in different places starving to death.[12] Farmers slaughtered livestock because feed prices were rising, and they could not afford to feed their own animals.[12] Under the Agricultural Adjustment Act, "plowing under" of pigs was also common to prevent them reaching a reproductive age, as well as donating pigs to the Red Cross.[12]

In 1935, the income generated by farms was 50 percent higher than it was in 1932, which was partly due to farm programs such as the AAA.[15]

The Agricultural Adjustment Act affected nearly all of the farmers in this time period. (Around 99%).

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Plus, thanks to lefty ecofascists there's an emissions chip in trucks that require the trucks use some supplement... which comes primarily from Russia. Oh, and that chip is made in China, and is out of stock everywhere and has been for most of a year now.

Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) is 33% urea and deionized water. Russian produces shit loads of urea from natural gas b/c it's easier to ship across oceans than CNG. The EPA has been remarkably reasonable about the lack of parts for emission systems. Allowing PACCAR to turn of the DEF tank sending units (which are all broken with no replacements) and all engine manufacturers to reprogram new and existing ECUs to derate to 50 mph instead of 5 on emission systems failure.

Sorry, obviously meant DoT. At least, I think that's where those notifications come from? Could be some trucker network or trucker company I don't know about, but I thought it was DoT.

If it was it was a message on a dispatch terminal it was probably DOT Transport.

U.S. wheat crop hit by dry winter then soggy spring, adding to global tightness

Basically, US is the 4th largest producer of wheat, but the places that plant the summer wheat are having too much rain and the places that grow winter wheat don't have enough rain and it's leading to issues.

Kansas winter wheat burning up while North Dakota and Montana were too wet to seed spring wheat is bad. When Montana has a good year, those 3 states represent around 25 million metric tons of wheat production. Which is equivalent to the entire country of Ukraine.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Chemung and the area surrounding is going to really feel it. For one thing, the only other thing in Chemung is one hole in the wall bar right in front of the plant, and a church across 173.
Capron and Harvard are the two closest towns. With gas prices the way they are, and the smallness of the surrounding communities, not sure what will happen once these people are out of work.

Brandon Admin. would just go: "Lol, just get a job in Harvard, lol!"
The fuck job would that be? Motorola? The abandoned fucking backrooms pocket universe of northern Illinois?
Janesville? But then you might not even make enough to pay for gas to get to the job, let alone pay bills.

Let them learn to code.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Let them learn to code.

I am not looking forward to this reality. I work with a lot of contractors both in my career and to a lesser degree my hobby, and I am anticipating a horrific wave of "Just finished my first web3 certification" wannabe codemonkeys coming on cheap and desperate and fucking up a lot of projects, and making it impossible to sift out good contracts from the bad in the hobby space.

 

[Transreptilian POC]

Brought this up before. Gonna leave these here.

Dean Foods To Close Illinois Milk Plant

The milk giant Dean Foods is closing one of its Illinois facilities this year.

www.cbsnews.com

Dean Foods to close Illinois dairy plant

HUNTLEY, Ill. — The milk giant Dean Foods is closing one of its Illinois facilities this year. A Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act letter sent by the Texas-based corporation says 13…

wgntv.com

So... how soon before "ERMAHGERDDD, powdered milk is gone!! Illegal to purchase too, ERMAGERRD!"

So, nobody is going to point out that the articles you linked are from nearly 4-years ago? The property was mostly taken over by another dairy company, they started using it for storage and had "plans" to bring production or something, not sure how that's been going.

 

[An Avenging Bird]

Or simply that food supplies must go through the government. Process as follows:
1) Induce food shortages
2) De facto seize remaining food production by demanding government purchase takes priority:
--> "We can't allow the rich to simply buy up all the food and leave people to starve. We must enact these compulsory sale laws now..."
--> Note, the rich will still be able to buy up food. But regular folks will be pushed into the same rationing system as everyone else. They wont call it rationing. They'll have a term like "Emergency allocations" or "Food reservations."
3) Maintain situation in perpetuity. Continue to consolidate farm and food production under merger of state and corporations. Bureaucracy / fees / whatever that are onerous to independent farmers to further push sale of land towards Bill Gates and cronies.

Bang - fascism as Mussolini defined it. They just wont call it that or acknowledge it as a permanent thing. That's a more likely scenario. Doors kicked in will be for those independent farmers who attempt to resist the bureaucracy with force.

Additionally, the way "carbon credits" are set up where some gigantic corporation can offset its own breaking of environmental regulations by snatching up swaths of privately owned farmland. Then they don't plant jack shit on it because the WEF incentivizes them not to.
Then, price controls which you know are coming and will completely empty the shelves in stores and there will be nothing at the petrol stations.

If anyone thinks this is all by accident or is a surprise, they probably deserve to starve shaking their fists at the sky.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Price of chicken is going through the roof. If it wouldn't dox me, I'd post pics of the prices of different cuts of chicken (all conventional) in different stores over the past 6-8 weeks. Bone-in thighs and drumsticks have gone from .99 to 2.39lb. Chicken breasts from 1.99lb to 5.99lb. At Wal-Mart, they were 3.79lb. Chicken wings, lol. Whole chicken is somewhat more stable as I can get that in most stores I have been in from .99lb to 1.29lb. No idea how long that will last. Costco had 10lb bags of chicken breasts at $3.99lb which is oof. Price of pork and beef in the same time frame has been rather stable (besides bacon, for whatever reason, but pork belly is fine), at least in my market. Dairy is definitely going up. I could buy 2 gallons of milk at Costco for 4.59 at the beginning of the year and now they want 6.49. At regular stores, it is all over $3 a gallon, approaching $4. I don't buy eggs because I have layers (I don't have the space for 75-100 broilers and no one to help process), but I have heard from others that the prices have gone way up recently. Seafood is too expensive for me to buy often, but I noticed it is $43lb for king crab, saw Chilean sea bass for NO SHIT, $49lb at Safeway. I only looked at it because I noticed the 50% off sticker, but lmao, no way am I paying near $25lb for fucking fish. Rockfish and farmed trout have stayed relatively stable, but I need to get back out on the water fishing for myself.

Pork loin is an OK low fat, high protein sub for chicken breast. Like chicken breast, you have to be careful not to overcook it. Turkey breast has gone up some too but nowhere near chicken.

In produce, leeks are a dollar more expensive a bunch over last year. Jalapeño peppers went from .99lb to 1.49lb. Kohlrabi is now over $4.00 a bunch, wtf, glad I planted. I have found some interesting deals though, like on tomatoes. I bought around 20lbs of tomatoes on the vine for .69lb last week that I canned into crushed tomatoes or spaghetti type sauce. Normally those are $1.29 or more per lb.

Interesting thing to me is that the shipments seemed to have come in. I have never seen my Wal-Mart so well stocked in general in many years. It is almost eerie in a way. Walmart hated labor, so never hired enough workers to keep stores shelves completely stocked. Now there is a 'labor shortage' and the shelves are picture perfect full with many brands most of the time. Wat? Same at my Target.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

No idea how long that will last

Whole chicken should stay stable for a lot longer, the average person would be at a complete loss to try and butcher and portion it, so it shouldn't see as much demand climb. The smart among them might cook them whole then strip them to the bone afterwards for use, but most people are low effort cooks and won't go that far.

 

[Constellationzero]

So, nobody is going to point out that the articles you linked are from nearly 4-years ago? The property was mostly taken over by another dairy company, they started using it for storage and had "plans" to bring production or something, not sure how that's been going.

I know this area. Article may be old, but Chemung is closed permanently July 1. Nothing has changed about that. These people come July 1 are jobless. And they are NOT doing anything with the Dean's plant.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Then they don't plant jack shit on it because the WEF incentivizes them not to.

That's not how carbon credits and farming work. A field can't sequester carbon if nothing is growing. The carbon credits are based on using agricultural practices(mostly no-till) that build organic matter(carbon) in the soil that would otherwise be oxidized through conventional tillage

Not that it works very well to begin with. It's currently very messy keeping track of who bought the carbon credits from what tract of land and making sure it doesn't get sold again. There are some very stupid people trying to push for carbon credits to become deeded like mineral rights. That will go over like lead balloon and kill the concept for the farmers that are currently involved.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

Economically, I think we are under fascism now. Fascism is government control of corporate means of production. It seems we have that. However, the other moral control part is missing. Fascism is not about moral degeneracy whatsoever. So, I can't completely argue we live under fascism because our society is still so insanely decadent and not even old school Commies would not tolerate the shit that is going on now. I have no idea what to call our current governance, but definitely not democracy or even a real republic.

That's how it's always been economically, the free market anarcho-capitalist America that boomers are deluded about was never a thing that existed, America became "great" under a mixed economy with heavy government intervention. Granted, it's also going to crash into the ground under the same system, guess your greatness was only short-term gains at the expense of long-term sustainability.

Price of chicken is going through the roof. If it wouldn't dox me, I'd post pics of the prices of different cuts of chicken (all conventional) in different stores over the past 6-8 weeks. Bone-in thighs and drumsticks have gone from .99 to 2.39lb. Chicken breasts from 1.99lb to 5.99lb. At Wal-Mart, they were 3.79lb. Chicken wings, lol. Whole chicken is somewhat more stable as I can get that in most stores I have been in from .99lb to 1.29lb. No idea how long that will last. Costco had 10lb bags of chicken breasts at $3.99lb which is oof. Price of pork and beef in the same time frame has been rather stable (besides bacon, for whatever reason, but pork belly is fine), at least in my market. Dairy is definitely going up. I could buy 2 gallons of milk at Costco for 4.59 at the beginning of the year and now they want 6.49. At regular stores, it is all over $3 a gallon, approaching $4. I don't buy eggs because I have layers (I don't have the space for 75-100 broilers and no one to help process), but I have heard from others that the prices have gone way up recently. Seafood is too expensive for me to buy often, but I noticed it is $43lb for king crab, saw Chilean sea bass for NO SHIT, $49lb at Safeway. I only looked at it because I noticed the 50% off sticker, but lmao, no way am I paying near $25lb for fucking fish. Rockfish and farmed trout have stayed relatively stable, but I need to get back out on the water fishing for myself.

It's mostly the same for me. You can try chicken leg quarters, those are still currently about 55 cents/lb, though I noticed they went up a bit.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

Milk is still a regional product. The fact that a dairy plant in Illinois is closing to me is proof of increase in soy consumption in the Chicago area. This has also been an issue on the east coast as the coastal cities consume less milk, dairies in NY PA VT and MA have been shutting down for the past 10 years. Bad for supply issues, good if you want to buy a 50-100hp utility tractor that is old enough not to have the pesky electronics issues or require government juice.

There’s an increase in soy consumption in a big liberal city?

 

[moocow]

I have no idea what to call our current governance, but definitely not democracy or even a real republic.

Anarcho-tyranny, isn't it?

Law-abiding citizens effectively frozen out of all policy decisions, denied any influence on government activities, subjected to ever-declining quality of life, all but ignored by law enforcement as crimes are committed against them and even punished severely by the same for defending themselves against overt criminal activity (even direct violence) when conducted by lawbreaking "activists" who are never punished (or even stopped) so long as they're shouting government-approved slogans, beating up the right people and vandalizing and looting the right businesses.

Sounds about right.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Anarcho-tyranny, isn't it?

Law-abiding citizens effectively frozen out of all policy decisions, denied any influence on government activities, subjected to ever-declining quality of life, all but ignored by law enforcement as crimes are committed against them and even punished severely by the same for defending themselves against overt criminal activity (even direct violence) when conducted by lawbreaking "activists" who are never punished (or even stopped) so long as they're shouting government-approved slogans, beating up the right people and vandalizing and looting the right businesses.

Sounds about right.

Fascism had the idea that elections could still be conducted, but the outcome was...um, predictable. Now we have the same for major elections, but so many are in niggercattle denial about it.