Mega Rad Gun Thread

Who's giving bad advice at this point other than get a PSA? I think most who have chipped in are giving okay advice, especially for Null who (I'm assuming) doesn't know too much about firearms.
 
Between people trying to give him actual advice, retards who only know what /k/ tells them, and people who only get their opinions from Youtube, this was bound to go wrong from the start.
Still waiting for someone to recommend him a Mosin or .30-06.
06 is still a very popular deer and moose cartridge in New England. Don't need to borrow a rifle if you win a moose tag.
 
06 is still a very popular deer and moose cartridge in New England. Don't need to borrow a rifle if you win a moose tag.
I don't think Null is moving to New England anytime soon, he would probably be executed on the spot for his opinions if he stepped foot into any of them. (Except New Hampshire)

What Null really needs is a .470 NE lever gun.

@Rent Tin One of the first replies was some retard telling him to get 10mm. Who the fuck tells a new shooter to buy a 10mm?
This is true, might be useful if Chantal or Boogie decide to try and pay him an unexpected visit.
I didn't see that comment earlier, skipped past it. Yeah, 10mm is a meme caliber not sure why anyone would recommend that to a new shooter.
 
I don't think Null is moving to New England anytime soon, he would probably be executed on the spot for his opinions if he stepped foot into any of them. (Except New Hampshire)
Maine is fine anywhere inland and north of Portland along the coast. Midcoast can get a bit queer, but there are still plenty of fisherman/lobstermen to offset the hipsters.
It's popular everywhere with hunting. The real serious guys usually run something more modern, but it's a good enough round for most people.
Lotta people with grandad's rifle in 30-06.
 
I asked my stream for 2 pistols, 1 shotgun, 1 rifle suggestion. From their input, this is my non-conclusive list.

AR15 M4E1 in 5.56 (Aero Precision)
Mossberg 590
Beretta 92
P365-380 P365 in 9mm

I'm not set on the pistols or the AR-15 brand. I kind of want an M1911 .45 ACP because my grandfather has one and it feels very American, but the comparisons between .45 ACP and 9mm lean towards 9mm.
I'd opt out of the P365 and go with either a M&P 2.0 or a Beretta APX. Modern Sig Sauer is not the Sig from 10 years ago.

Aero is great, love mine, runs like a champ and can take a fair beating.

Mossbergs are the gold standard of cheap shotguns for me. I've never handled one I didn't like.

Beretta 92 is a big family. I'm partial to the 92x Centurion I have, it's my favorite handgun, but you can't go wrong with a regular 92fs or any of the 92x's. You can spring for an M9 if you want, which is just a 92 with rails, grips, and a different trigger. There's a large aftermarket for the 92, so if something doesn't feel "right" out of the box, you can change it.
 
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I mean people are giving him advice for shit he didn't ask. He didn't say he needed or wanted something concealed, he said he wanted to plink and have some shit for home defense. I love Sig but fuck their plastic guns. Why would you tell someone whos only interested in target shooting and home defense to buy something geared towards concealed carry? Especially the fucking Sig meme guns with their million frames and barrels.

Keep it simple, stupid.
 
I mean people are giving him advice for shit he didn't ask. He didn't say he needed or wanted something concealed, he said he wanted to plink and have some shit for home defense. I love Sig but fuck their plastic guns. Why would you tell someone whos only interested in target shooting and home defense to buy something geared towards concealed carry? Especially the fucking Sig meme guns with their million frames and barrels.

Keep it simple, stupid.
People are recommending him CCW guns, because he's likely to need one when he returns to the United States.
I CCW, and I don't have a 1/100th of the same amount of people that want me dead as he does. If he doesn't want advice for CCW guns he can ignore it, he isn't going to break down into tears and explode because of it.
 
People are recommending him CCW guns, because he's likely to need one when he returns to the United States.
I CCW, and I don't have a 1/100th of the same amount of people that want me dead as he does. If he doesn't want advice for CCW guns he can ignore it, he isn't going to break down into tears and explode because of it.
So let him ask those questions when he's ready to instead of throwing all this shit at the wall to see what sticks. That's how you confuse someone, giving them so many options they don't know what to go with or decide instead of something concrete and simple. Yes, there's a whole cornucopia of choice out there but let the man learn the basics on a basic platform first.
 
I mean people are giving him advice for shit he didn't ask. He didn't say he needed or wanted something concealed, he said he wanted to plink and have some shit for home defense. I love Sig but fuck their plastic guns. Why would you tell someone whos only interested in target shooting and home defense to buy something geared towards concealed carry? Especially the fucking Sig meme guns with their million frames and barrels.

Keep it simple, stupid.
He said two Pistols so I assumed he would want one that has the versatility to be concealed if he ever chose to do so.

I'm not big into Sig pistols at all, I owned one and didn't like it, but different strokes for different folks. I know they make good guns tho, that's the only reason I threw the brand out there. Pointing him toward good quality brands and letting him chose whatever models that fits his needs is better than pointing him towards shitty brands and telling him that they're "Just as good".
 
Anyway, the point is that if you're using the same cartridge as everyone else then you'll be competing with everyone else to get it every time the shit hits the market's fan, or otherwise you'll have a finite stockpile that you'll have to stretch out until the ammo market restabilizes.
The basis is my suggestion is getting something that no one else is looking for so that nobody else will get to it 1st.
 
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Anyway, the point is that if you're using the same cartridge as everyone else then you'll be competing with everyone else to get it every time the shit hits the market's fan, or otherwise you'll have a finite stockpile that you'll have to stretch out until the ammo market restabilizes.
I understand the point that you're making here. But, if I have to burn through tens of thousands of rounds of ammo before the market gets to an acceptable place again, then something has gone horribly wrong and I likely have far greater things to worry about than my stockpile running out.
Assuming I take 10 mags into a firefight, my 10,000 round stash would get me through 33 firefights. If I am in 33 firefights where I expend most or all of my ammo, I need to get the fuck out of the action movie I live in and find someplace where I won't be constantly at risk of death.
 
Nothing wrong with having alternative calibers, from what I remember in 2020 the .40S&W gang and 7.62x39 gang had about two weeks of heads up when 9mm and 5.56 were flying off the shelves. But after that they dried up too, and the situation was not any better. Only the most esoteric calibers sit untouched, and then at some point someone's gonna buy it even if it's just to take out the powder and primers.
 
Anyway, the point is that if you're using the same cartridge as everyone else then you'll be competing with everyone else to get it every time the shit hits the market's fan, or otherwise you'll have a finite stockpile that you'll have to stretch out until the ammo market restabilizes.
The basis is my suggestion is getting something that no one else is looking for so that nobody else will get to it 1st.
If no one is looking for it, then stores have no reason to stock it either. Not to mention niche rounds are going to be inherently more expensive just look at 5.7 or really any antique caliber.
 
@Club Sandwich @Particle Bored any suggestions?

@Null get two serbu shorties and something that can punch through body armor like 5.7 ammo.
Picks look solid to me. Glock 17 or 19 is cheaper, lighter, a bit more user friendly, but a 92 is a solid choice (a 92FS is on my "someday" list). S&W has some well regarded budget striker pistols as well (Shield, SD9). I'm a budget bitch so to me a Mossy 500 (or even a Maverick 88 ) is just as good as a 590 for civilians.

One note though is that the Aero M41E is just a stripped lower, it would need to be built out to a complete rifle. Aero doesnt sell complete rifles. S&W M&P Sport is a proven (by St. Rittenhouse) budget rifle.

Keep in mind Im just a budget shooter that likes to sperg a bit about the very limited shit I'm familiar with... Mainly ARs, Glocks, and Mossberg, all of which I picked for their economy and reliability, as well as modularity & abundance of accessories. Glock got a point boost for having AR9-compatible mags. Im not necessarily one for overall comparisons. I know the Sig P365 is well regarded. I kinda want a 1911 as well, but kinda for similar "Murica" reasons; seems its a bit dated as an actual SD weapon.

ETA: I also think 9mm/12ga/5.56 is the best starting combo. If you really want to do more plinking build a CMMG 22lr upper for the AR. Advantage Arms also makes a 22lr conversion for Glock 17 but I dont know if theyre any good.

PS: if you go Glock, get both a 19 and a 17 in your hand first. Before I held both I thought I wanted a 19, but the grip felt a bit cramped compared to the 17. Nulls tiny girl hands would probably be fine on a 19 though. Or maybe a 43 would be a better fit.
 
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Picks look solid to me. Glock 17 or 19 is cheaper, lighter, a bit more user friendly, but a 92 is a solid choice (a 92FS is on my "someday" list). S&W has some well regarded budget striker pistols as well (Shield, SD9). I'm a budget bitch so to me a Mossy 500 (or even a Maverick 88) is just as good as a 590 for civilians.

One note though is that the Aero M41E is just a stripped lower, it would need to be built out to a complete rifle. Aero doesnt sell complete rifles. S&W M&P Sport is a proven (by St. Rittenhouse) budget rifle.

Keep in mind Im just a budget shooter that likes to sperg a bit about the very limited shit I'm familiar with... Mainly ARs, Glocks, and Mossberg, all of which I picked for their economy and reliability, with a side note to modularity/abundance of accessories. Im not necessarily one for overall comparisons. I know the Sig P365 is well regarded. I kinda want a 1911 as well, but kinda for similar "Murica" reasons; seems its a bit dated as an actual SD weapon.
Aero sells complete lowers and uppers and it doesn't take a genius to put the two together, but agree regarding the S&W M&P Sport if just for the cost savings if he gets a good deal.
 
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