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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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For a Polish man, he's surprisingly receptive and supportive of his people's number one enemy.

And this idiot sells himself as a Pole. If his people find out how supportive he is of Russia, they'd have him hung, drawn, and quartered.
He barely even seems all that in touch with being Polish-American, let alone knowing anything about being an actual polak, typical grifter who sings whatever song is most convenient to him at the time.
 
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Well thats one way to ensure your forces fight harder since enemy will not take prisoners. Catch 22 Either Ukies start executing and Ruskie are forced to fight harder or Ukrainian morale takes hit as Russians commit atrocities and they are forced to hold to Geneva. Mhhhh ruthless move.

Ukraine has to hold high moral ground and act civilized, no matter how tough shit gets. They also need "exchange fund" which means they need live and dead RF bodies to exchange their own:



This is especially true that RF propaganda is working overtime, generating their own victims when they can't find any (Donetsk was shelled, and it was actually locals pro-RF civs who were bitching that shells came from RF occupied Avdiivka, to generate body count and outrage, but obviously they'd rather it wasn't their ass)


Ukraine is being held to stupid high standard. They can't openly shell Russia or reach out, because whatever incoherent vatnik agrs. In any case, they are hanging on thread of Western help and doing even mildly bad shit threaten to cut it off. Plus, I tend to believe that they are not Siberian niggers who eat dogs and fuck other men.

RF has done a great job disposing their worst, as it looks like a lot of kids from Bucha got ground down near Kharkiv, hence no one to put on trial, even ad absentia since they are dead, so bad PR is played down.

There also have been posts over the weekend that RF is aiming to step up positive propaganda campaign with more hero RF soldiers posing with fuzzy kittens and giving away "humanitarian aid" that was stolen from locals elsewhere.
 
Ukrainian National Guardsman Operator Starsky talks again about the Irish volunteer Aidan, a builder and travel agent, who''s working to restore a Hostomel school. Using some of his donation funds, he bought a laptop for the teacher who hitherto was using a phone for distance learning for the student. This is still needed as the school is not yet fully cleared of Russian munitions and other threats.:


Jake Broe was serving in the US Airforce until late last year, and who has long made videos on personal finance, but now focusses a lot on the Ukraine War, talks about the recent developments. One particular thing is that after three months, if Putin somehow managed to take Sievierodonetsk, having been pushed back recently, all it means is that Russia has the second population center of size in Lunhansk oblast, after Luhansk itself; pretty pathetic. Ukraine did not want Russia taking the whole oblast with that city so they are sending reinforcements into the town. Also, using a Twitter by retired DoD official Trent Tolenko on the early interrogation of captured DNR reservists, he notes how the DNR reservists are wholly without any sort of modern equipment or even basic military gear like helmets and webbing and are armed with bolt action rifles. These Lunhansk forces are Ukrainians so their deaths is fine for Putin. These fighters only got employment if they joined the reserves. The Ukrainian Foreign Legion soldier by contrast has a high quality helmet and body armor.


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Twitter thread on how not only have the Ukrainians mastered the PzH2000 self propelled artillery, but they have translated the software and integration with their own GIS Arta artillery management system targeting software

Translated piece on DLPR fighters are dying pointless deaths with primitive equipment

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translation of conversation of two Russians scornful of how poorly they're equipped and jealous of what Ukraine possesses

I think the shiteaters here who back Putin are probably still certain he's winning, but I think it fitting that they will discover otherwise slowly.
 
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Not so much an article, but actually a documentary interview from a pro-RF journo who specializes in people interviews on various topics. I believe that she is in RF, somewhat well known, but does most of biz on youtube, hence flies below the radar of most state media/censorship.

She did 1.5h documentary talking to three mothers of RF soldiers, which I think it was fair. Unfortunate part is that it's in Russian.

Some takeaway points:

One mother had son KIA/MIA/AWOL/MIA ... never changin status since no one knows where he actually is. Another one, had her son POW and got him back. Third one was from Ukraine, moved to Russia for a job, got citizenship (paid 12k USD for attorneys and fees) and her kid got immediately drafted. No idea where he is, his unit disintegrated and no one can tell where he or his body may be or is he alive even.

I believe it's a first of a kind interview of this type. There were a few published in newspaper format, but it seems the issues of war and sending kids to war is picking up steam in RF society.

All three are different degrees of unrepentant as to what's the point of this. All three relegate to "authorities" the decision to start a war. Only one (with POW) actually went to anti-war rally and they were dispersed with vengeance and fury by RF cops.

One thing that strikes me, for some fucking reason soldiers had to surrender their dogtags and basically left them with their personal shit and docs before heading out to Ukraine. That's kind of fucked up, because frankly it would make shit so much easier to find and ID remains, which are many, especially in places where whole fucking tank burned out. There are a lot of RF families that are hanging in the air, because they have no idea where their kid is or in what shape.

There are fairly extensive network of relatives of the soldiers on both unit level and also RF-wise, chats and coms. In case you wandered about what's known, most families from the same unit and even across country share info.

One dude was conscripted, sent to Ukraine 2.5 mo later, literally had no plate carrier or even a helmet. His mother is more pissed off that he wasn't trained before being sent against mature UAF soldiers who have been trained "day and night" by NATO instructors.

Another soldier, told his mom, once conscripted, the "buyers" from various units would visit conscription centers trying to grab as much crop as possible (I'm sure bribes take place), but a lot of units are in great hunger to pack warm bodies into units as priority.


Overall, no big revelations, kind of sad stories. The mom who got her POW dude back, he is a wreck with PTSD, waking up in the middle of night thinking that shells are about to fall. She says he is 20 but feels like he is 40y.o. "old man" (in Russia living to 40 is an accomplishment though).

Another funny part, one dude's APC broke down and crew literally were chipping in rubles to get it repaired, because with money you can solve all kinds of problems, but seriously, Ivan, we need 2000 rubles each to get our tank rolling again, common, don't be stingy!


 
One thing that strikes me, for some fucking reason soldiers had to surrender their dogtags and basically left them with their personal shit and docs before heading out to Ukraine. That's kind of fucked up, because frankly it would make shit so much easier to find and ID remains, which are many, especially in places where whole fucking tank burned out. There are a lot of RF families that are hanging in the air, because they have no idea where their kid is or in what shape.
It's the sort of retarded shit that's characteristic of Russia. The whole point of dogtags is to help identify corpses and yet they were taken away.
The reason is likely to mitigate Russian losses on paper and in the media, plausible deniability. Easier to claim that soldiers just "disappeared" rather than died.
I have never heard of any government/army, let alone supposed superpower, who would just abandon bodies of their warriors who paid the ultimately price for their country. It's INSANE to me. But this is exactly what Russia is doing to "save face".

This is the value of human life in the eyes of Putin and his regime. If there's one thing I'd want russiaboos to realize, it's this.

Nasty business. Russian thermobaric TOS-1 supposedly firing at Ukrainian positions

 
I have never heard of any government/army, let alone supposed superpower, who would just abandon bodies of their warriors who paid the ultimately price for their country.
Weren't there even stories early on after the fuck up and retreat perfectly executed feint and tactical withdrawal near Kiev that the Russians were even refusing to accept bodies already collected by Ukraine? I'm not surprised that Putin is doing this shit, after all can't admit you're losing so many bodies in a special military operation, but I'm curious how the boots on the ground feel about it. I know that if the PM had ordered us to abandon bodies and shit when I was in the army there'd have been fucking mutinies.

Oh look it's a day ending in -y. you know what that means? Russia issuing nuclear threats over trivial shit yet again:
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Also finally something fun:
*Australian accent*: That's not a technical, this is a technical:
 
Weren't there even stories early on after the fuck up and retreat perfectly executed feint and tactical withdrawal near Kiev that the Russians were even refusing to accept bodies already collected by Ukraine? I'm not surprised that Putin is doing this shit, after all can't admit you're losing so many bodies in a special military operation, but I'm curious how the boots on the ground feel about it. I know that if the PM had ordered us to abandon bodies and shit when I was in the army there'd have been fucking mutinies.

Oh look it's a day ending in -y. you know what that means? Russia issuing nuclear threats over trivial shit yet again:
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Also finally something fun:
*Australian accent*: That's not a technical, this is a technical:
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"Betrayed our common history"

Russia really is the crazy ex-girlfriend of Europe.
 
"Betrayed our common history"

Russia really is the crazy ex-girlfriend of Europe.

It fits. Hot blonde, in actuality psycho belligerent drunk who'll cut your face with a straightrazor if you even SUGGEST things aren't perfect when you come home and find her passed out over a table full of Kazakh hashish.
 
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Pretty based. Can't wait for the Japanese goverment in a few years during the next refugee push to say "look UN, as much as we'd like to take these container ships of smelly lightbulb heads, we just can't. Our hands are full with all these white people we took in a while back so you'll have to ask Germany again".
 
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that's actually pretty impressive. DOD software is programmer's hell, but I guess if you got war going on, you got plenty of motivation.


Weren't there even stories early on after the fuck up and retreat perfectly executed feint and tactical withdrawal near Kiev that the Russians were even refusing to accept bodies already collected by Ukraine? I'm not surprised that Putin is doing this shit, after all can't admit you're losing so many bodies in a special military operation, but I'm curious how the boots on the ground feel about it. I know that if the PM had ordered us to abandon bodies and shit when I was in the army there'd have been fucking mutinies.

Well, the newspaper in Volgograd had to remove their "in memory of the fallen heros" page ... because it was giving away the casualties (which are classified and dessimination of that information carries real prison times)


Дорогие читатели, к сожалению, мы были вынуждены удалить список погибших. Такое решение редакции пришлось принять на основании постановления суда, запрещающего раскрывать потери Российской армии.

dear readers, we regret to inform you that we had to remove list of the fallen. This decision had to be made based on courts decision that dissallows to reveal the losses of the Russian army

So basically imagine a Viet Nam memorial in DC had all the names scrubbed off ... because that would be illegal :story: .. yeah, that's Russia.


Basically it's a slave mentality. This channel is good, lots of vids are in English. Basically a Uki journo travels around detention centers with RF POW and offers to chat about war etc. + they can make a call to their relatives. Most of these dudes are low ranks, privates, NCOs. I believe that their families are notified in writing and in fact Ukies are trying to spread the word, so it's not secret, but live phone call is def an incentive.

Anyways, the most recent vid (only in Rus so far). The kid is legally blind ... he was made a gunner, just because they needed one. His platoon of 70 got masacred, only three of them remained wounded.

But this guy can not figure out what free will is. He knows "order", he knows "authority", but he has no idea what's free will, free choice. He knows that RF is not in the state of war, but he does what he is told. He knows that they are cannon fodder, but he still goes in like a sheep. He is not an Einstein, but this is border line retarded, i.e. childlike for a grown man to behave like that.


Also his mother refused to speak with him if they are getting recorded.
 
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Pretty based. Can't wait for the Japanese goverment in a few years during the next refugee push to say "look UN, as much as we'd like to take these container ships of smelly lightbulb heads, we just can't. Are hands are full with all these white people we took in awhile back so you'll have to ask Germany again".
japan is the absolute jackpot country to reach as a refugee. highest quality of life, most safe and secure place on the planet, ultra low crime. tokyo is like the largest and most densely populated metropolitan area on the planet, but still manages to be one of the safest major cities in the world.
 
japan is the absolute jackpot country to reach as a refugee. highest quality of life, most safe and secure place on the planet, ultra low crime. tokyo is like the largest and most densely populated metropolitan area on the planet, but still manages to be one of the safest major cities in the world.
Its win win. The Japanese can get the heat taken off for barring refugees and get the least dangerous refugees in the last 60 years and the Ukranians can relocate to the safest country most can think of. If some of the refugees stay they can help with the population decline. It can also help their intelligence agencies if they can get a large base of Russian speakers that hold no allegiance to Russia.
 
japan is the absolute jackpot country to reach as a refugee. highest quality of life, most safe and secure place on the planet, ultra low crime. tokyo is like the largest and most densely populated metropolitan area on the planet, but still manages to be one of the safest major cities in the world.
From what I know most of the yakuza shit is done with backroom businessmen these days but on topic I hope Japan treats them well and that they don't get worked to death in an office like a lot of Japanese men
 
Looks like Ukraine is on the war path and sending the Russians reeling. They've basically recaptured the entire city of Siervierodonetsk and a nearby town, and are pushing the Russians back on other fronts:

Clearly a western fabrication created via advanced real time cgi and camera tricks
 
Russian troops are repulsed following their failed attempt to take Sloviansk:


At this point, for every front the Russians are winning at, they're losing at two or three other fronts.

This is not a sustainable war effort. Especially if your yearly income is lower than the GDP of California. It doesn't really leave much for your war chest at that point. Especially if you have to spend enough money to secure a land mass several times the size of China or the United States.
 
It's the sort of retarded shit that's characteristic of Russia. The whole point of dogtags is to help identify corpses and yet they were taken away.
The reason is likely to mitigate Russian losses on paper and in the media, plausible deniability. Easier to claim that soldiers just "disappeared" rather than died.
I have never heard of any government/army, let alone supposed superpower, who would just abandon bodies of their warriors who paid the ultimately price for their country. It's INSANE to me. But this is exactly what Russia is doing to "save face".

This is the value of human life in the eyes of Putin and his regime. If there's one thing I'd want russiaboos to realize, it's this.
Why don't Ukraine take their heroes back home, than? Don't accuse others of what your side can't do either. Also, it is a strange claim that they take their identifying documents, but Ukrainian channels post their papers all the time? Is this applicable only to some substrata of RF serviceman? Or Ukrainians lying about who they captured/killed?
In terms of mitigation of loses on paper, RF already made every preparation possible. (tl;dr information about deaths of Russian serviceman during peace time is State Secret from May of 2015. And Russia is officially at peace. Put two and two together and it all makes sense.)
Not so much an article, but actually a documentary interview from a pro-RF journo who specializes in people interviews on various topics. I believe that she is in RF, somewhat well known, but does most of biz on youtube, hence flies below the radar of most state media/censorship.

She did 1.5h documentary talking to three mothers of RF soldiers, which I think it was fair. Unfortunate part is that it's in Russian.

Some takeaway points:

One mother had son KIA/MIA/AWOL/MIA ... never changin status since no one knows where he actually is. Another one, had her son POW and got him back. Third one was from Ukraine, moved to Russia for a job, got citizenship (paid 12k USD for attorneys and fees) and her kid got immediately drafted. No idea where he is, his unit disintegrated and no one can tell where he or his body may be or is he alive even.

I believe it's a first of a kind interview of this type. There were a few published in newspaper format, but it seems the issues of war and sending kids to war is picking up steam in RF society.

All three are different degrees of unrepentant as to what's the point of this. All three relegate to "authorities" the decision to start a war. Only one (with POW) actually went to anti-war rally and they were dispersed with vengeance and fury by RF cops.

One thing that strikes me, for some fucking reason soldiers had to surrender their dogtags and basically left them with their personal shit and docs before heading out to Ukraine. That's kind of fucked up, because frankly it would make shit so much easier to find and ID remains, which are many, especially in places where whole fucking tank burned out. There are a lot of RF families that are hanging in the air, because they have no idea where their kid is or in what shape.

There are fairly extensive network of relatives of the soldiers on both unit level and also RF-wise, chats and coms. In case you wandered about what's known, most families from the same unit and even across country share info.

One dude was conscripted, sent to Ukraine 2.5 mo later, literally had no plate carrier or even a helmet. His mother is more pissed off that he wasn't trained before being sent against mature UAF soldiers who have been trained "day and night" by NATO instructors.

Another soldier, told his mom, once conscripted, the "buyers" from various units would visit conscription centers trying to grab as much crop as possible (I'm sure bribes take place), but a lot of units are in great hunger to pack warm bodies into units as priority.


Overall, no big revelations, kind of sad stories. The mom who got her POW dude back, he is a wreck with PTSD, waking up in the middle of night thinking that shells are about to fall. She says he is 20 but feels like he is 40y.o. "old man" (in Russia living to 40 is an accomplishment though).

Another funny part, one dude's APC broke down and crew literally were chipping in rubles to get it repaired, because with money you can solve all kinds of problems, but seriously, Ivan, we need 2000 rubles each to get our tank rolling again, common, don't be stingy!


Finally i hear a conformation that families of deceased serviceman are being payed. And from Meduza Liberal to boot.(Of course she paints it in such a light that you should feel ashamed for even receiving the money) Though i was told that payments were increased to 7 millions, but still, 5 millions is something around 50000 USD to 85000 USD depending on the time. You practically can live your whole life without working if you put it into deposit and just live of the yearly income it will generate(If you want to be a NEET). Usual bank will give you around 5% yearly income, so it would make around 250000 up to 350000 rubles or somewhere from 2500 USD up to 3500 USD (Which is a lot for CSTO countries and Ukraine. Prices for goods are not comparable to US or Europe. Big Mac costs 2 USD with every tax included. Gas for cubic meter of gas for home is around 0.11 cents. 95 octane fuel around 0,8 USD per liter. For foodstuffs, you can get yourself 350 grams of cut bread for around 0.5 cents, 400 grams of rice for around 0.8 dollars and so on. Bottle of average beer costs around 0.9 dollars and bottle of vodka around 4. Pack of cigarettes from 1.5, if you want a very quick and painful throat cancer, to about 3. And this is with the current price of Dollar to Ruble. During the times when ruble was in the gutter prices did not change.) Also looks a bit funny along side claims of crowdfunding APC repairs.
I did not watch it fully, but if i understand your point about "buyers" correctly, it is common practice for conscription offices to collaborate with actual unit commanders to get them whoever they need. Russian system of conscription is quit convoluted to the point when you can simply be in a legal battle with your home town commissariat until you pass the age of conscription and dodge the conscription all together (Or just run away from them until you are 27). Only those who are too stupid or too honest for their own good get conscripted into a Russian army. But to the point of "buying" soldiers. Russian army have 5 categories of conscription. Those categories have sub-categories. They go in this order: А-1, А-2, A-3, A-4, Б-1, Б-2, Б-3, Б-4, В, Г, Д. You can find more about every one of them on Wikipedia. (English version is complete nonsense, so just translate Russian one). Certain group supposed to allocate you into a specific branch of service. It maybe working for A groups, because from them you can go into special forces and so on, but it hardly ever works for the Б group (В, Г and Д are groups that bar you from service in peace time.). Usually Б group conscripts are filled into service into divisions that lack personal, despite many of them aren't exactly fit for service in those branches of the military, at least according to specifications inside those groups. Usually into motorized brigades. This is where butthurt about "buying" comes in, because people, who, by the law, should serve in some rocket unit or professionally guard posts somewhere in Siberia (Do nothing and play cards all day, basically.) are put into high intensity brigades, where you need to run a lot, shoot a lot and so on.
If he had A group, than he practically fit for service in any branch. And if he signed a contract, than he is forced by law to be where he is told to be and die where he is told to die. Contracted soldiers in Russian military are equivalent to American serviceman of today in that regard. He paid official salary, which is usually 1,5-2 times higher than regional average, he could go on a paid by the State pension somewhere around 45 years(Depends on the service branch, some go out as quick as 40) of age and his pay grows with every year of service and with every rank he receives. And his family or whoever he chose to be a receiver of the money is paid 7 million rubles in case he dies or missed in action. I believe it is the main misconception in this conflict about who is actually fighting on the Russian side. Somehow everybody equate LDPR mobilized meat shield or Russian conscript with common Russian contracted serviceman. (Though Russians brought it on themselves to some extent by throwing conscripted logistical unit into the fray and getting them captured by Ukrainians. I still wonder what was up with that. I believe some Melitopol politician was exchanged for them.) It is, after all, illegal to use conscripts for any military action since Chechen wars.
If you want to pity someone, don't think about either side serviceman. They are paid to die and kill, they chose it themselves. Pity territorial defense units of both LDPR and Ukraine, because they were not asked whether they are willing or unwilling to die for their country or whether they even wanted to be part of this war or not, yet still they will die all the same.
Sorry for long post.
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Something was struck in Mykolaiv Region. City of Bashtanka. Probably missile strike.
 
Russia would rather dump bodies on a pile rather than identify and honor their own dead:


It's still kind of funny that some people still try to equate the Russians' actions to what Ukraine is doing. Russia is invading a sovereign country that was of no threat to them. Ukraine is fighting for its continued existence. Russia was once a global power, Ukraine is a mere regional power. NATO was an aging relic on its way to the scrap pile, but thanks to Russia's actions, it now has purpose, again. The fact that the Russians have to struggle and hide their war dead against an enemy that's literally next door, when their previous reputation was that of being a global power that can compete with America, is quite frankly, hilarious. I can understand the Ukrainians hiding things for the sake of keeping up morale; they're a Z-list ex-Soviet Republic that has no nukes. But when a "superpower" like Russia has to do the same? Well, I guess that explains why China isn't willing to back them up 100%, while the US/NATO are willing to back Ukraine 100%. I suppose it's just bad karma to invest in a failing war effort, especially when China has their own problems to deal with.
 
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