Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

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I think the raffle was for donations, but it is still super tacky

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Good lord that's tasteless. Why do people need to win a prize in order to donate in this situation? Its like having a tombola at a funeral to pay for the flowers.
They've taken the playbook for fundraising for a kid with leukaemia and hope of a future and slapped it onto a campaign to try and reanimate a child dead by his own hand.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Aren't micropremies that don't go onto have serious, lifelong disabilities the exception? I would assume even the least disabled ones probably still have some issues, considering.

You are correct, as others have said. Half of infants born at 24 weeks will survive, and some hospitals will resuscitate infants born even earlier than that, but most survivors will have at least one major complication.

In general, younger gestational age, lower birth weight, and male sex predict worse outcomes even in infants who do survive. I just wanted to post a link to this outcome calculator for extremely premature infants from the National Institutes of Health. You put in a gestational age between 22 and 25 weeks, birth weight, sex, whether the pregnancy was singleton or multiple, and whether the mother received steroids to mature the fetus's lungs prior to delivery, and the tool will show you a range of outcome probabilities. It's interesting because it breaks down the possible outcomes a little bit. It's evidence-based, current, and just playing with it a bit will show you how much even a day matters with infants this premature.

Edited to add this is one of those things where I suspect if you asked a neonatologist if they would choose to initiate resuscitation or other heroic measures if their own baby were born at 23 weeks, you may be surprised by the answer, even if it's theoretically possible for an infant born that premature to survive without major adverse effects. I would not be surprised if it's like how many young, healthy physicians have advanced directives or do not resuscitate orders in case of a freak cardiac arrest or whatever. Basically, it boils down to just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

 

[Jeep1971]

Good lord that's tasteless. Why do people need to win a prize in order to donate in this situation? Its like having a tombola at a funeral to pay for the flowers.
They've taken the playbook for fundraising for a kid with leukaemia and hope of a future and slapped it onto a campaign to try and reanimate a child dead by his own hand.

MLM MOMS.

 

[obsdj]

Today and tomorrow are the final hearings for Archie Battersbee. The judge has ordered more tests (which the parents can't refuse) to see what state the boy is in.

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The child’s lips are blackening. What more does anyone need to see? The kid is rotting while on display for the world and his room probably smells of death. They need to let the poor little guy go.

 

[Trombonista]

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Damn, they're all fat.

 

[booklover]

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This was a poster commissioned by the US Government, published about 10 years after Gerson started pushing his "therapy". Back then, real doctors didn't know that much about treating cancer. But they did know the quacks were full of shit and just trying to scam people.

I love Art Deco graphics, and this poster was actually aimed at Harry Hoxsey and his clinics, which actually hired licensed practitioners. They were shut down for good in the late 1950s, and when he got prostate cancer around 1970, tried his own treatment and then traditional medicine when, not surprisingly, it failed. It's quite a colorful story, and for skin lesions, I really think that in some cases, he was on to something, although the concoctions he used could not be standardized, and as we know now, there is no one size fits all regarding cancer and its treatment.

There was one thing about his main facility in Dallas that I liked, however. The staff would see black people walking around the building, or pushing a wheelchair, and they would go up to the main entrance and ask where the colored entrance was. They were told, "You're there" and waved them in. They would then want to know where the colored waiting room was - "It's down the hall" - and the colored restrooms, which were those doors marked "Men" and "Women."

 

[A tree]

Checked in on the Gard parents. They seem to have been steered In a really positive direction and have been involved in writing draft legislation to put ethics committees into hospitals so that these cases never end up being played out in a public court. They're raising money for mitochondrial syndromes and seem to be in a good place.

What is Charlie's Law? - The Charlie Gard Foundation | Because Mito Matters

thecharliegardfoundation.org

 

[trance_glory]

Checked in on the Gard parents. They seem to have been steered In a really positive direction and have been involved in writing draft legislation to put ethics committees into hospitals so that these cases never end up being played out in a public court. They're raising money for mitochondrial syndromes and seem to be in a good place.

At least the Go Fund Me money raised didn't disappear into the parents' bank accounts (although Chris Gard appears to be an employee of the foundation) like in other high profile cases but I'm not convinced "Charlie's Law" is going to go anywhere. Even if it did get passed, all the mediation and legal aid in the world won't convince parents like these that their kid is dead so the cases will still end up in court.

Speaking of court cases, the Archie Battersbee case just gets worse. According to the scans there are "significant areas of tissue necrosis" in his brain. Despite this, Hollie is still convinced he is "in there" and the army are telling each other not to read the news reports because they aren't accurate and only to rely on what the family say.

According to Hollie he has lost 2 stone (about a third of his body weight?) since he was in the hospital so presumably there's not that much longer his body will keep going before his heart finally gives up.

 

[A tree]

At least the Go Fund Me money raised didn't disappear into the parents' bank accounts (although Chris Gard appears to be an employee of the foundation) like in other high profile cases but I'm not convinced "Charlie's Law" is going to go anywhere. Even if it did get passed, all the mediation and legal aid in the world won't convince parents like these that their kid is dead so the cases will still end up in court.

Speaking of court cases, the Archie Battersbee case just gets worse. According to the scans there are "significant areas of tissue necrosis" in his brain. Despite this, Hollie is still convinced he is "in there" and the army are telling each other not to read the news reports because they aren't accurate and only to rely on what the family say.

According to Hollie he has lost 2 stone (about a third of his body weight?) since he was in the hospital so presumably there's not that much longer his body will keep going before his heart finally gives up.

I think Charlie's law is a sop to keep the parents busy and stop them harassing GOSH and won't really be applicable in practice. Things not coming to court will always depend on the ability of the parents to accept the bitterest pill and understand the science.
I'm just glad they're now at least moving forward.

Hollie still addressing the trolls. I wonder how they'll rein her in after the inevitable. I expect all this money being raised will go to an extremely showy funeral.

 

[Android raptor]

I wonder if Hollie has found this thread? She definitely strikes me as the type to do frequent vanity searches for herself/her dead kid. If so, I assume we're part of the "hospital trolls" she complains about.

Poor kid clearly was in a bad enough place in life to commit suicide at 12, and now his body isn't even being allowed to rest with dignity. Strongly suspect Hollie did not provide a healthy, loving environment for him in life so now she's trying to play devoted mom with his dead body. It's grotesque.

 

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I wonder if Hollie has found this thread? She definitely strikes me as the type to do frequent vanity searches for herself/her dead kid. If so, I assume we're part of the "hospital trolls" she complains about.

Poor kid clearly was in a bad enough place in life to commit suicide at 12, and now his body isn't even being allowed to rest with dignity. Strongly suspect Hollie did not provide a healthy, loving environment for him in life so now she's trying to play devoted mom with his dead body. It's grotesque.

I'm pretty sure the hospital trolls are just weens on Facebook messaging her lol your kids killed himself. She thinks they're sent by the hospital.

I cannot imagine this woman finding this thread and not chimping out hard. Way too much potential for attention and sympathy and drama. There's shit loads of news reports burying us anyway. This thread isn't on page 1-5 of Google for either her name or archies.

 

[SuperShibuyaFighter]

The brain dead kids stuff posted here has to be the most disturbing stuff I've seen on this website.

Corpses disturb me, and dead kids are objectively worse, but not only are these dead kid corpses, but dead kid corpses being unnaturally kept alive like some mad science experiment. Literally the closest thing to human zombies that currently exist.

Read some of the Jahi thread, and I felt internally sick after seeing how decomposed she looked, and then this poor Archie kid too, feel very similar.

I didn't think I would find anything worse than tranny amhole pictures on here but here we are.

 

[A tree]

The brain dead kids stuff posted here has to be the most disturbing stuff I've seen on this website.

Corpses disturb me, and dead kids are objectively worse, but not only are these dead kid corpses, but dead kid corpses being unnaturally kept alive like some mad science experiment. Literally the closest thing to human zombies that currently exist.

Read some of the Jahi thread, and I felt internally sick after seeing how decomposed she looked, and then this poor Archie kid too, feel very similar.

I didn't think I would find anything worse than tranny amhole pictures on here but here we are.

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Disagree, maybe It's because I'm newer to amholes but they still get an audible gasp of horror from me sometimes. The corpse kids are just sad. Living with a body horror for the rest of your life.....shudder.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

I wonder if Hollie has found this thread? She definitely strikes me as the type to do frequent vanity searches for herself/her dead kid. If so, I assume we're part of the "hospital trolls" she complains about.

Poor kid clearly was in a bad enough place in life to commit suicide at 12, and now his body isn't even being allowed to rest with dignity. Strongly suspect Hollie did not provide a healthy, loving environment for him in life so now she's trying to play devoted mom with his dead body. It's grotesque.

Honestly, Suicide happens in families where parents are trying their best, and if that we’re the case, I’d hope that someone would have taken her aside and let her know that. What she is going through has to be devastating and I think cases like these are just people who do not want to face the reality that their child is gone.

One one hand I can’t blame them, on the other hand I can’t condone child abuse. Even if Archie was “in there” he’s not getting back out. And existence would be a hell for him.

I never did understand religious people (I am assuming that she is religious because she asked for prayers) who are hit this hard by death. I thought religion was supposed to bring comfort in times like this. Why would a bunch of people who believe in a heavenly afterlife want to keep Archie away from it?

(I am not trying to neckbeard btw, I understand fighting for life and the life of your kid, but in times where you should be letting go, why is it always the very religious who cannot let go?)

 

[bigfart420666]

Such enjoy.

 

[SuperShibuyaFighter]

I never did understand religious people (I am assuming that she is religious because she asked for prayers) who are hit this hard by death. I thought religion was supposed to bring comfort in times like this. Why would a bunch of people who believe in a heavenly afterlife want to keep Archie away from it?

(I am not trying to neckbeard btw, I understand fighting for life and the life of your kid, but in times where you should be letting go, why is it always the very religious who cannot let go?)

I'm not sure, I'm Christian and I know that brain dead = dead. What I notice is a lot of these people who keep their kids alive are female, and females tend to be more emotional when making decisions. I know saying this will probably piss people off but it's been proven true by many studies that women base their decisions more on emotionalism, hence why you see kid trannies often happen more often under single mother households.

Women's quality of emotional decision isn't always a bad thing either, sometimes men can be way too focused on solving a problem without consideration of how it could mentally effect other people, and the emotional values adds a depth that can help in said decision. But in cases like kid trannies and dead potato kids it's the emotional factor that is denying them from facing reality. I'm newer to this thread but I haven't really seen too many fathers being the ones trying to leave their kid alive, and if there is a father involved the mother is still the main voice and the father probably is either too much of a pussy to confront his wife or believes the wife may be right in this situation.

 

[A tree]

The court is told that archies care team have raised concerns about "significant areas of tissue necrosis". Surely this can't go on much longer. He's literally rotting.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

The court is told that archies care team have raised concerns about "significant areas of tissue necrosis". Surely this can't go on much longer. He's literally rotting.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Let the kid go. I sure as fuck hope if I'm ever brain dead they don't let me get like this.

 

[A tree]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Let the kid go. I sure as fuck hope if I'm ever brain dead they don't let me get like this.

I'm not ashamed to say I'll be lighting a candle and shedding a tear for the lad when he goes. All snark aside it's heartbreakingly sad and I hope the mother can come back from her delusional state.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

I'm not ashamed to say I'll be lighting a candle and shedding a tear for the lad when he goes. All snark aside it's heartbreakingly sad and I hope the mother can come back from her delusional state.

Me too. She's probably in extreme denial at the loss or her son, and I hope she can heal eventually.