US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Kane Lives]

August is probably too soon. Tensions will rise, but foods whats gonna make or break it, and reports of fallow fields, unfertilized fields, and general expectations of miserable harvest come fall harvesting season is where I'd call serious problems as being possible. I'd expect rising food prices and urban liberal issues to come to a head around then alongside economic issues, lead to a crime spree beyond what we're seeing now, leading to a new "hands up don't shoot" from sheer volume of altercations (if you fuck up 1% of altercations, but suddenly have ten times the altercations, thats ten times the fuckups to go viral) and the ensuing riots will make shit worse from there.

On the plus side, the actual truly violent among the antifa groups aren't nearly as big as it may have been feared. The courage of the crowd is one thing, but the antifa soyboys are not gonna form gangs to kick in doors and steal food. They'll hear platitudes that the government is totally gonna send relief and supplies any day now, so wear your monkeypox mask and quarantine, and they'll follow it. With any luck, by the time they get to the hungry and desperate stage, it'll be too late for them to steal much, either it'll be over or all the soft targets will have been hit. Likely the former, it'd be difficult for the US to go full Mad Max at this time. The conservative movement is too moralized and unified in hatred if nothing else, and would likely drag something together outta the chaos well before anything is lost.

Anyhow thats my apocalypse larp, I look forward to none of this shit happening because holy fuck thats a sad timeline to look down.

Agreed on this. If the US descends into mass civil unrest, it won't be this year.

Right now, a lot of the pains that are being seen is caused by logistics, aka goods not being shipped to where they are needed. Even then, it's a question on whether to buy it at a higher price, rather than outright not being available for purchase. (Baby formula aside). People will grumble and tighten their belt, but it won't be three meals shorts tier of unrest. Yet. Realistically, what we will see is an ever ratcheting tension caused by standards of living falling, and an increasing disillusionment with the establishment.

 

[Breadbassket]

Agreed on this. If the US descends into mass civil unrest, it won't be this year.

Right now, a lot of the pains that are being seen is caused by logistics, aka goods not being shipped to where they are needed. Even then, it's a question on whether to buy it at a higher price, rather than outright not being available for purchase. (Baby formula aside). People will grumble and tighten their belt, but it won't be three meals shorts tier of unrest. Yet. Realistically, what we will see is an ever ratcheting tension caused by standards of living falling, and an increasing disillusionment with the establishment.

Personally I think we aren't at the breakdown point yet but we are steadily progressing to it.

 

[Flan Handler]

A truly terrible thing is that before things get this dire in North America, millions of vulnerable people in poorer areas will starve to death. It’s a terrible way to go.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

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The 3 Republicans who voted for the storage laws: Brian Fitzpatrick (PA), Adam "Faggot" Kinzinger (IL), and Chris Jacobs (NY) (roll call 240)
The 8 Republicans who voted for the firearm licensing laws: the above 3 plus Anthony Gonzales (OH), John Katko (NY), Nicole Malliotakis (NY), Chris Smith (NJ), and Fred Upton (MI) (roll call 239)

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Agreed on this. If the US descends into mass civil unrest, it won't be this year.

Right now, a lot of the pains that are being seen is caused by logistics, aka goods not being shipped to where they are needed. Even then, it's a question on whether to buy it at a higher price, rather than outright not being available for purchase. (Baby formula aside). People will grumble and tighten their belt, but it won't be three meals shorts tier of unrest. Yet. Realistically, what we will see is an ever ratcheting tension caused by standards of living falling, and an increasing disillusionment with the establishment.

The way I see it, how food processing plants/warehouses are 'mysteriously' burning down, and gas getting to the point where a lot of people will be losing money just by going to work (most of the country does live paycheck to paycheck), I can see civil unrest happening in the very near future.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

The way I see it, how food processing plants/warehouses are 'mysteriously' burning down, and gas getting to the point where a lot of people will be losing money just by going to work (most of the country does live paycheck to paycheck), I can see civil unrest happening in the very near future.

Its a concerning trend, but it would take actual full blown active widespread, impossible to ignore global terrorism to cripple food stocks and processing fast enough to cause problems before the upcoming harvest. There is genuinely a lot of inertia in the system even if cracks are showing, so short of the Extinction Rebellion becoming the GLA and rising up world wide, we're looking at a long haul of suck and not an implosion.

I will fully admit I got my apocalypse stocks just in case, either way.

 

[Ow The Edge]

August is probably too soon. Tensions will rise, but foods whats gonna make or break it, and reports of fallow fields, unfertilized fields, and general expectations of miserable harvest come fall harvesting season is where I'd call serious problems as being possible. I'd expect rising food prices and urban liberal issues to come to a head around then alongside economic issues, lead to a crime spree beyond what we're seeing now, leading to a new "hands up don't shoot" from sheer volume of altercations (if you fuck up 1% of altercations, but suddenly have ten times the altercations, thats ten times the fuckups to go viral) and the ensuing riots will make shit worse from there.

On the plus side, the actual truly violent among the antifa groups aren't nearly as big as it may have been feared. The courage of the crowd is one thing, but the antifa soyboys are not gonna form gangs to kick in doors and steal food. They'll hear platitudes that the government is totally gonna send relief and supplies any day now, so wear your monkeypox mask and quarantine, and they'll follow it. With any luck, by the time they get to the hungry and desperate stage, it'll be too late for them to steal much, either it'll be over or all the soft targets will have been hit. Likely the former, it'd be difficult for the US to go full Mad Max at this time. The conservative movement is too moralized and unified in hatred if nothing else, and would likely drag something together outta the chaos well before anything is lost.

Anyhow thats my apocalypse larp, I look forward to none of this shit happening because holy fuck thats a sad timeline to look down.

Eh, really depends on how fuel prices go. If they keep increasing, and I see no reason to believe that they won't, it will hardly matter how much food is actually available because no one will be able to deliver it, or to pay the inflated prices in the event that anyone can. Anything that hurts delivery trucks has huge and nigh-uncontrollable knock-on effects.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Personally I think we aren't at the breakdown point yet but we are steadily progressing to it.

Since 2020 wasn't CIVIL WAR! time, it was probably the point of no return; i.e. the Gracchi failure. Now, it's a few decades of a declining government appartus that will eventually lead to an Empire, and it's anyone's guess as to who will become Caesar. I keep saying Muslim Hitler because Islam is the most Anti-woke force in the world, but I suppose a Trad-con of some kind could stabilize the world. I don't say a Lefty Liberal would be the next Hitler--despite their desires--because they are just absolute shit at the act of governing.

 

[AnotherPleb]

This will never happen for a plethora of reasons but by God I want Keystone reopen if only for the fact it would be Biden going back on the only thing he's done he was "elected" to do.

Closing Keystone literally only benefitted the climate nutjobs.

They won't reopen Keystone because closing it meant they repaid the favor to Warren Buffet. That's one of the only favors that was repaid, and the DNC needs his funds.

Keystone reopening or not, its been fascinating to watch the energy cost issues suddenly make talking about the actual severity of climate change possibilities and the efficiency of 'green' sources viable. Folks I know who'd have plugged their ears and screamed two years ago when you try to explain the poor economics of mass battery storage are now coming to me asking about whether the garbage efficacy of wind farms is actually true or not.

Glad to see confirmation that most of these environment nutjobs are just fair weather fanatics, and not true believers, but still surprises me all the same.

NIMBYism only works so long as they can't actively feel the pain, and they can feel it now.

Personally I think we aren't at the breakdown point yet but we are steadily progressing to it.

We're rapidly accelerating to that point because...

A truly terrible thing is that before things get this dire in North America, millions of vulnerable people in poorer areas will starve to death. It’s a terrible way to go.

the Biden administration would unironically ship our food off to help those third world countries, our own starving population be damned.

Its a concerning trend, but it would take actual full blown active widespread, impossible to ignore global terrorism to cripple food stocks and processing fast enough to cause problems before the upcoming harvest. There is genuinely a lot of inertia in the system even if cracks are showing, so short of the Extinction Rebellion becoming the GLA and rising up world wide, we're looking at a long haul of suck and not an implosion.

I will fully admit I got my apocalypse stocks just in case, either way.

The Biden administration is doing its damndest to drive a Milwaukee jackhammer in those cracks.

Eh, really depends on how fuel prices go. If they keep increasing, and I see no reason to believe that they won't, it will hardly matter how much food is actually available because no one will be able to deliver it, or to pay the inflated prices in the event that anyone can. Anything that hurts delivery trucks has huge and nigh-uncontrollable knock-on effects.

If the average price of gas goes to the federal minimum wage then shit will pop off.

 

[Gehenna]

The 3 Republicans who voted for the storage laws: Brian Fitzpatrick (PA), Adam "Faggot" Kinzinger (IL), and Chris Jacobs (NY) (roll call 240)
The 8 Republicans who voted for the firearm licensing laws: the above 3 plus Anthony Gonzales (OH), John Katko (NY), Nicole Malliotakis (NY), Chris Smith (NJ), and Fred Upton (MI) (roll call 239)

Seeing familiar names there. Lots of RINOs. Good!

Indicates absolutely no wider support from Republicans, and dooms it in the Senate. Also, No the RINOs won't cuck on removing the filibuster that is just stupid to say. We -already had- this song and dance, -and- RINOs are in it for personal gain and power. Nuking one of the things that gives them power is not on the cards.

 

[Keavy Rain]

I know people are saying that Biden won’t reopen Keystone but we may reach a point where he has no choice. Gas prices don’t seem to have a “Ceiling” and if they don’t find a way to get them under control shit’s gonna get rough.

I know right now they’re pushing the “Just live with it, there’s nothing we can do” narrative but if reopening Keystone gets traction and Republicans can focus on that going into the Midterms (Doesn’t matter if they legally can) it’ll get reopening Keystone into the public conversation and that alone may be enough to get some concessions on domestic oil production from Biden.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Personally I think we aren't at the breakdown point yet but we are steadily progressing to it.

I agree. Right now, we've only really seen one nation collapse into Mad Max territory under the current set of crises, Sri Lanka. While it wasn't the best nation to live in by far, until recently it was improving itself from its lows during the Civil War there. One really shitty policy plank (the organic farming mandate) instigated the collapse.

We're going to see other nations collapse further and further up the development and economic chain until it comes time that we plausibly collapse.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I know people are saying that Biden won’t reopen Keystone but we may reach a point where he has no choice. Gas prices don’t seem to have a “Ceiling” and if they don’t find a way to get them under control shit’s gonna get rough.

I know right now they’re pushing the “Just live with it, there’s nothing we can do” narrative but if reopening Keystone gets traction and Republicans can focus on that going into the Midterms (Doesn’t matter if they legally can) it’ll get reopening Keystone into the public conversation and that alone may be enough to get some concessions on domestic oil production from Biden.

I only rated you Feels cuz I can't rate you Optimistic. Because what you just said.....yeah, you are shitting rainbows right now. Ain't no way the super-"green" Brandon administration is gonna concede on domestic oil production, even if gas prices get to an untenable point. Their hubris (and the aforementioned debt collector in Buffet) wouldn't allow it.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I know people are saying that Biden won’t reopen Keystone but we may reach a point where he has no choice. Gas prices don’t seem to have a “Ceiling” and if they don’t find a way to get them under control shit’s gonna get rough.

I know right now they’re pushing the “Just live with it, there’s nothing we can do” narrative but if reopening Keystone gets traction and Republicans can focus on that going into the Midterms (Doesn’t matter if they legally can) it’ll get reopening Keystone into the public conversation and that alone may be enough to get some concessions on domestic oil production from Biden.

See how environmentalists jam up Californian infrastructure. California doesn't have to be constantly in a drought or have to fear blackouts, but muh fishies and muh nukes prevent the state from doing what ancient Sumerians would have done already. The Left want to govern the US like California and it doesn't care if it gets California results.

 

[Garm]

I know people are saying that Biden won’t reopen Keystone but we may reach a point where he has no choice. Gas prices don’t seem to have a “Ceiling” and if they don’t find a way to get them under control shit’s gonna get rough.

I know right now they’re pushing the “Just live with it, there’s nothing we can do” narrative but if reopening Keystone gets traction and Republicans can focus on that going into the Midterms (Doesn’t matter if they legally can) it’ll get reopening Keystone into the public conversation and that alone may be enough to get some concessions on domestic oil production from Biden.

I think the company that owned Keystone has already ripped out the network of pipes that had been installed.

Basically they would be starting from scratch which means a decade of permits and bribing people again just to get it to where it was. Unless Biden decides to use the Defense Production Act (since that seems to be the hammer Biden reached for the most) which.... Oh ho ho ho... Would probably end his administration.

Keystone is dead. Simply put.

 

[Sithis]

Oh, I expect polite society to collapse by August of this year (two more months). The problems we're facing now with inflation, gas prices, dismal job market, etc. won't matter anymore when it happens. You're gonna have to worry if that neighbor of yours is going to break into your home, kill you, and take whatever provisions they can carry. Think CHAZ, The Purge, and Mad Max mixed all in one.

We're at the tipping point.

If you have no way to get into the country, mountains, or anywhere that doesn't have a dense population you better hope you're better armed than whoever comes knocking on your door, or that Putin makes good on his promise and nukes wherever you live.

I recommend that anyone who can't make it out to the sticks to beat it on their own to at least find somewhere somewhat isolated near a fresh water source. Suck it up and move back near family if you have to. I've posted some basic pointers in the Global Depression happening thread and there are tons of much better pieces of advice for bugging out or making the most of your circumstances, growing food etc.

If you are not able to due to location or not competent enough at basic wilderness survival to hack it on your own, remember that much of humans evolution to the top has been facilitated by our ability to work closely with one another in small groups.
The trick is that these days pretty much everyone is a selfish untrustworthy cunt so even with family I'd recommend keeping it only to family members you feel confident would donate blood to you if you needed it etc. Make your group people you can trust.

It's summer season. Google it for the correct formula to look for and buy fucking pool shock now. Calcium Hypochlorite is the formula you want but Google anyway so I don't feel liable if you buy the wrong shit. But the point is that you can use pool shock to make a solution similar to bleach which can be added in very small quantities to water to purify it for drinking.

You can typically find food within the amount of time it would take to starve, even if it's something unsavory like eating a pigeon or mouse most humans will be able to kill some form of food if they have to, and thankfully the US has tons of small game species and relatively few competing predators that pose a real risk to us.

You will die very quickly and very very miserably without water. Prioritize water, fire and shelter. Then food, then clothing, then safety. Everything else comes after.

 

[Flan Handler]

I know people are saying that Biden won’t reopen Keystone but we may reach a point where he has no choice. Gas prices don’t seem to have a “Ceiling” and if they don’t find a way to get them under control shit’s gonna get rough.

I know right now they’re pushing the “Just live with it, there’s nothing we can do” narrative but if reopening Keystone gets traction and Republicans can focus on that going into the Midterms (Doesn’t matter if they legally can) it’ll get reopening Keystone into the public conversation and that alone may be enough to get some concessions on domestic oil production from Biden.

Transcanada Pipelines considers this project dead. It would take more than a green light from Biden to restart it. Biden revoked a granted permit that was already under construction.

You cannot build multi-year project infrastructure in a political environment like this. Younger people may not know this, but this sort of shit was simply not done until the last 10-15 years.

 

[Mega Man II Intro - GB]

Since 2020 wasn't CIVIL WAR! time, it was probably the point of no return; i.e. the Gracchi failure. Now, it's a few decades of a declining government appartus that will eventually lead to an Empire

America has been an empire for a long time. The empire is falling. What comes next is a division of the empire's former territories with some being ruled by foreigners. If you're in a White-majority state you're already in the best possible position. Those who aren't should move before that's no longer possible.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

If you're in a White-majority red state you're already in the best possible position. Those who aren't should move before that's no longer possible.

FTFY.

 

[murdered meat bag]

He murdered an intern he was banging. Yeah conspiracy theory. Except straight after the tragic accident, where she was found dead in his office with massive head trauma he resigned from Congress and went into hiding.

OK fact check, she didn't die of head trauma, she died of a heart attack and the skull fracture was a result of her hitting her head on the desk or something. A healthy 28 year old female with no family history of heart disease and no congenital issues dropping dead like this and also smashing her head open is totally plausible. Oh and then there's the fact that the autopsy was done by a struck off Florida MD who was later convicted of stealing body parts. Again completely normal.

The bitch is owned. He's the 'reasonable Republican' they roll out to tell boomer cons that opposing rainbow clown world means you're an extremist. He's way past his sell by date.

not too hard go believe given the sudden increase of young, healthy people developing heart issues or dying out from heart issuess these days. Just one of life's many mysteries.