US Ohio governor signs bill allowing armed school employees - The new law “is giving schools an option, based on their particular circumstances, to make the best decision they can make with the best information they have,” says the Governor of Ohio.

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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine discusses a law that gives school districts the option of arming trained school employees, on Monday, June 13, 2022, in Columbus, Ohio. The Republican DeWine signed the bill into law Monday and ordered the Ohio School Safety Center to require a maximum of 24 hours of initial training and eight hours of annual training. (AP Photo/Andrew Welsh-Huggins)

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio school districts could begin arming employees as soon as this fall under a bill signed into law Monday by GOP Gov. Mike DeWine.

The law, as enacted, requires up to 24 hours of training before an employee can go armed, and up to eight hours of annual training. The training programs must be approved by the Ohio School Safety Center, and DeWine announced he’s ordering the center to require the maximum 24 hours and the maximum eight hours.

Schools can provide additional training if they wish, DeWine said.

Before announcing the bill signing, the governor outlined several other school safety measures he and lawmakers have promoted, including $100 million for school security upgrades in schools and $5 million for upgrades at colleges.

The state is also adding 28 employees to the school safety center to work with districts on safety issues and to provide training under the new law. Ohio has also provided $1.2 billion in wellness funding for schools to address mental health and other issues, the governor said.

The new law “is giving schools an option, based on their particular circumstances, to make the best decision they can make with the best information they have,” DeWine said.
The governor said his preference remains that school districts hire armed school resource officers, but said the law is another tool for districts that want to protect children. He emphasized that it’s optional, not a requirement.

Mayors of Ohio’s biggest cities, including Cincinnati, Columbus, and Cleveland, planned an afternoon news conference to highlight gun violence in their communities and outline their differences with the governor over gun issues. Nan Whaley, DeWine’s Democratic opponent for governor, also planned a news conference, after denouncing his decision to sign the bill.

The signing came the same day a new law went into effect making a concealed weapons permit optional for those legally allowed to carry a weapon.

Democrats have said the law sends the wrong message coming so soon after the massacre of 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. Republicans say the measure could prevent such shootings. Lawmakers fast-tracked the legislation to counter the impact of a court ruling that said, under current law, armed school workers would need hundreds of hours of training.

The measure is opposed by major law enforcement groups, gun control advocates, and the state’s teachers unions. It’s supported by a handful of police departments and school districts.

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I hope that some do decide to take up such measures. As we've seen with other previsions that permit people to take protection into their own hands, I suspect we'll see fewer incidents at schools where there is an armed response. It turns out that criminals or people who want to make violent political statements tend to think better about perpetrating those crimes when there's someone there who can stop them.
 
I’m sorry, did most states not already allow teachers to carry guns? In my high school at least three of my teachers that I know of had guns hidden at their desk. My art teacher one year quite famously had a fucking rifle.
 
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I’m sorry, did most states not already allow teachers to carry guns? In my high school at least three of my teachers that I know of had guns hidden at their desk. My art teacher one year quite famously had a fucking rifle.
Under current ohio law you cannot legally CC or open carry in places marked as being firearm free zones, which many schools and businesses are. You can keep your firearm in your vehicle if you can concealed carry which either recently or soon will be the default in ohio, no more license to do so. With this new law, properly trained employees in schools would be exempt from this.
 
Serious question:

What are the arguments, aside from a non-committal "guns bad", are there for preventing teachers from getting strapped? I have yet to hear a single one. They just say that the answer isn't more guns and refuse to go into greater detail. What are they worried about?

The only objective reason I can think of against it is retard teachers leaving their guns lying around and letting students take them, but as long as they're required to keep the gun in a password-locked safe or on their person, that shouldn't matter. And if a teacher does decide to be a lazy retard, they can be found guilty of accessory to murder and go to prison. Easy peasy.
 
I could never wrap my head around why this wasn't always a thing. What's the concern, the teacher is going to shoot the kids? They shouldn't be teaching then if they're that unhinged. I guess a student could grab the gun and go on a spur of the moment shooting spree, but that seems very unlikely given the track records of how much school shooters build up to their sprees. I can't think of a single one that was spur of the moment. And even if it did happen, it would be far less deadly than most mass shootings given it'd be an unfamiliar handgun with limited ammunition.

Just seems like it was banned for the sake of making gun grabbers feel warm and cozy, logic be damned.

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I could never wrap my head around why this wasn't always a thing. What's the concern, the teacher is going to shoot the kids? They shouldn't be teaching then if they're that unhinged. I guess a student could grab the gun and go on a spur of the moment shooting spree, but that seems very unlikely given the track records of how much school shooters build up to their sprees. I can't think of a single one that was spur of the moment. And even if it did happen, it would be far less deadly than most mass shootings given it'd be an unfamiliar handgun with limited ammunition.

Just seems like it was banned for the sake of making gun grabbers feel warm and cozy, logic be damned.

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I’m calling it right now.

Some unhinged psycho fatherless kid (of a certain complexion) is going to try to beat or rape their teacher, the teacher is going to shoot the kid.

BLM and anti gun activists will jump on this (he was just a sweet, good kid!) and guns will be perma-banned once again.

You want to arm teachers? Don’t be surprised when they splatter the gangbangers trying to beat them to a pulp. The psycho kids are bigger threat to teachers than the rogue mass shooter.
 
Yeah, all it takes is one retard teacher leaving their gun laying around (or a retard strength student overpowering them and stealing their gun) for this shit to get banned again and for the pro-2nd crowd to get even more pushback. Given the recent crop of BPD teachers that have been shuffling out of college, I think it's only a matter of time.
 
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There are a million and one ways we could "protect our kids" from "muh gun violence" that do not involve taking guns away from everyone, including but not limited to arming teachers/staff, but we all know "protecting muh keedz and behbehs" isn't the real reason they want gun control.

A teacher is the last person I would trust with a gun

Not because I think it's a bad message, but just because most of them are stupid and would shoot kids for thought crimes.
 
I could never wrap my head around why this wasn't always a thing. What's the concern, the teacher is going to shoot the kids? They shouldn't be teaching then if they're that unhinged. I guess a student could grab the gun and go on a spur of the moment shooting spree, but that seems very unlikely given the track records of how much school shooters build up to their sprees. I can't think of a single one that was spur of the moment. And even if it did happen, it would be far less deadly than most mass shootings given it'd be an unfamiliar handgun with limited ammunition.

Just seems like it was banned for the sake of making gun grabbers feel warm and cozy, logic be damned.

Fucking ninja ass kirby
I don't think they worry about spontaneous mass shooting as much about the horrible kids that will do their best to steal the gun. You can steal a gun from a safe and even from a person if you know what you are doing or get lucky. Kids tend to be more single minded than adults, are still learning to control impulses and have few responsibilities in their lifes, so can really go beyond normal and reasonable to try their limits. Especially if there is something as cool as having a gun that you took from someone in powerful position.

It's also just some people don't like guns period and prefer to have spaces where they don't have worry about them. Reasons for this can be from unfamiliarity with guns to personal horrible experiences with gun violence. Even if it's not fool proof, gun free zones are to them much better nothing. So bringing guns knowingly, even by reasonable responsible people with training will not go down with this type well.
 
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