Why is black art so limited in scope? - No, I’m not saying black people suck.

[Stabmaster Arson]

Try and name a single famous black person who hasn't tried to publicly centre their own blackness at least once.

Mr T. He was always a team playa, and never blamed racism for not getting on no plane.

 

[Wormy]

Horseshit. I can form an opinion on art without being a creator.

That you can, but when you're bragging about how your whiteness makes you SOOO much more creative than those filthy nigs, I do expect one to have produced SOMETHING worth enjoying artistically.

Mr T. He was always a team playa, and never blamed racism for not getting on no plane.

He was also a massive phony. The whole persona was fake. So much so that when he was rassling with Hulk Hogan for the first Wrestlemania the whole locker room got sick of his shit and Mr Wonderful Paul Ordorff nearly did pull his punk card for real.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

Anything that is advertised with the creator's race will typically be limited to a small scope of shitty over explored topics. This ends up being true for works from any minority where the campaign surrounding it blasts you with that fact.

There's been plenty of complaints from Black people who want to do stuff, but it gets rejected for not being black enough. Just normal jew shit.

it's this. mediocre black creators who have to leverage the mass asspats from self-congratulating libs to succeed, and the ones who succeed on their own merits can't escape the shadow of racial politics. a good example of this is Jordan Peele, whose middling and preachy social horror movies were elevated to Must-Watch Movie of the Year shit by annoying virtue signalers. conversely, Shawn and Marlon Wayans, who make funny ass shit that both does and does not involve black people, get sidelined into the "black comedy" genre despite the whole blaxploitation thing not necessarily being a keystone of their work

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

do you have any meaningful connections to artists of your ethnicity, other than genetics? have you produced any piece of art that's worth a damn?

You’re completely missing the point. I’m not trying to say I can make good art and that black-themed art objectively sucks. I’m not even saying a majority black-themed art is a bad thing; the OP was posing a genuine question as to why most black works have to do with what is referred to as “the black experience” nowadays. Don’t assume I’m posing this question as a roundabout way of saying “nigger art sucks lol”. If I wanted to say that, I would’ve just said it.

Also, saying “you can’t make good art, durr” is a smooth brain deflection. Just because you can’t cook doesn’t mean you can’t criticize a dish. Just because you can’t build a car doesn’t mean you can’t complain when yours breaks down. Just because you can’t X doesn’t mean you can’t criticize Y. Do you understand?

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

this thread is absolutely not about "critiquing art".

You asked someone if they had produced art worth a damn in a thread where people are expressing their opinions on ‘black art’. Same thing.

 

[snailslime]

You’re completely missing the point. I’m not trying to say I can make good art and that black-themed art objectively sucks. I’m not even saying a majority black-themed art is a bad thing; the OP was posing a genuine question as to why most black works have to do with what is referred to as “the black experience” nowadays. Don’t assume I’m posing this question as a roundabout way of saying “nigger art sucks lol”. If I wanted to say that, I would’ve just said it.

but that's a stupid premise, considering that statistically, "most" black artists probably don't make their art all about some preconceived notion of "the black experience".

Also, saying “you can’t make good art, durr” is a smooth brain deflection. Just because you can’t cook doesn’t mean you can’t criticize a dish. Just because you can’t build a car doesn’t mean you can’t complain when yours breaks down. Just because you can’t X doesn’t mean you can’t criticize Y. Do you understand?

i think all of that is extremely hypocritical. if you are an untalented nobody, you are in no place to give non-constructive criticism to a professional.

You asked someone if they had produced art worth a damn in a thread where people are expressing their opinions on ‘black art’. Same thing.

how?

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

do you have any meaningful connections to artists of your ethnicity, other than genetics? have you produced any piece of art that's worth a damn?

It's the classic "You can't judge art because you don't make it" argument. Look, I can tell when somethings shit and that's all you need to know to see how garbage most Afrocentric media is. It's literally the same 5 plots or if it's not that, it's wypipo media with black characters. It's nothing like worthwhile. These aren't Their Eyes Were Watching God or The Color Purple, which actually added meaningful commentary on the himan experience through the eyes of a black person. This is Black Panter tier shit. Even Buck Breaking was a better work of art seeing it was made by a very clearly gay man to cope with the fac that he is gay and he did it in the most hilarious way possible.

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

He was also a massive phony. The whole persona was fake. So much so that when he was rassling with Hulk Hogan for the first Wrestlemania the whole locker room got sick of his shit and Mr Wonderful Paul Ordorff nearly did pull his punk card for real.

These are dirty lies, spread by the white man.

 

[Gig Bucking Fun]

Black panther
Black panther 2
Black panther 3: this time it's panthernal

You’ve stumped me.

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

That you can, but when you're bragging about how your whiteness makes you SOOO much more creative than those filthy nigs, I do expect one to have produced SOMETHING worth enjoying artistically.

Except, like all Nigger lovers, you can’t resist using false arguments.

I never said being white (which I’m not, you prejudiced cunt) made me artistically better. I implied rather that Niggers, by and large, are extremely limited in their own artistic integrity.

My ‘whiteness’ and Nigger’s limitations are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Beautiful Border]

i think all of that is extremely hypocritical. if you are an untalented nobody, you are in no place to give non-constructive criticism to a professional.

Tommy Wiseau is a film director and I'm not, therefore I'm in no place to make fun of The Room. You know how retarded that sounds, right?

 

[Skitarii]

You’ve stumped me.

Should I throw in black panther 4 for free where t'chungus gets buck broken by gollum?

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

but that's a stupid premise, considering that statistically, "most" black artists probably don't make their art all about some preconceived notion of "the black experience".

At least you do understand black culture. Jah bless.

I notice though you said "probably" which is a clear admission in this context you don't know wtf you are talking about.

 

[snailslime]

It's the classic "You can't judge art because you don't make it" argument. Look, I can tell when somethings shit and that's all you need to know to see how garbage most Afrocentric media is. It's literally the same 5 plots or if it's not that, it's wypipo media with black characters.

you don't know jack about afrocentric media, nor do you know anything about art. you are in no position to add non-constructive criticism.

It's nothing like worthwhile. These aren't Their Eyes Were Watching God or The Color Purple, which actually added meaningful commentary on the himan experience through the eyes of a black person. This is Black Panter tier shit. Even Buck Breaking was a better work of art seeing it was made by a very clearly gay man to cope with the fac that he is gay and he did it in the most hilarious way possible.

woah, it's almost like every group of people is capable of making shitty art.

Tommy Wiseau is a film director and I'm not, therefore I'm in no place to make fun of The Room. You know how retarded that sounds, right?

there is a difference between making fun of a specific film vs generalizing all works from that genre.

At least you do understand black culture. Jah bless.

I notice though you said "probably" which is a clear admission in this context you don't know wtf you are talking about.

have you made any art that's worth a damn?

 

[I'm Retarded?]

Also, saying “you can’t make good art, durr” is a smooth brain deflection. Just because you can’t cook doesn’t mean you can’t criticize a dish. Just because you can’t build a car doesn’t mean you can’t complain when yours breaks down. Just because you can’t X doesn’t mean you can’t criticize Y. Do you understand?

You asked someone if they had produced art worth a damn in a thread where people are expressing their opinions on ‘black art’. Same thing.

I agree that this argument is often used as a lazy and cynical way to shut down discussion, but - as a retard with strong opinions who hasn't produced anything of worth - sitting on the sidelines and throwing stones at people who are out there working their asses off and getting their hands dirty, even if you disagree with the opinions or political views their work is putting out there (as long as it's not deliberately and directly meant to cause societal harm), especially from the comfort of your anonymous posting chair, is lame as fuck. that exact thing is why culture warriors are so fucking insufferable

 

[Stabmaster Arson]

have you made any art that's worth a damn?

My mixtape "krakka killa" was the best received in my neighbourhood, getting positive reviews and accolades from all the homies.

 

[snailslime]

Except, like all Nigger lovers, you can’t resist using false arguments.

I never said being white (which I’m not, you prejudiced cunt) made me artistically better. I implied rather that Niggers, by and large, are extremely limited in their own artistic integrity.

My ‘whiteness’ and Nigger’s limitations are not mutually exclusive.

you're obviously dumb then lol

 

[Toolbox]

it's this. mediocre black creators who have to leverage the mass asspats from self-congratulating libs to succeed, and the ones who succeed on their own merits can't escape the shadow of racial politics. a good example of this is Jordan Peele, whose middling and preachy social horror movies were elevated to Must-Watch Movie of the Year shit by annoying virtue signalers. conversely, Shawn and Marlon Wayans, who make funny ass shit that both does and does not involve black people, get sidelined into the "black comedy" genre despite the whole blaxploitation thing not necessarily being a keystone of their work

It still gets me that Get Out is treated as some magnum opus of modern horror. And then it excused Peele to continue to use the genre just to express lukewarm social commentary.

 

[Idiot Doom Spiral]

you're obviously dumb then lol

Says the scumcunt repeatedly asking people who dare express an anti-nigger opinion “hUH whAT aRt yoU DUn woRTh a daMn uh Huu”.

 

[snailslime]

Says the scumcunt repeatedly asking people who dare express an anti-nigger opinion “hUH whAT aRt yoU DUn woRTh a daMn uh Huu”.

why is it wrong to ask someone why they're throwing stones from glass houses?