Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Good lord, anyone reading this, please don't drop out of college or change majors because you're reading our autistic end-of-the-world screeds on an online cyberbullying forum.

Get a useful degree (not a degree in cybersexuality or whatever the fuck they offer these days), go to a cheap college, don't rack up debt to have a bunch of dudes blow loads in you for four years, and you'll be fine.

Actually, he should just do whatever he is good at and knows he can market. I've known at least two men with just an AS in Computer Tech who are pulling in six figs now. It just took grind time, but now no one gives a shit if they have a degree or not. They can clearly do the job and learn. That is by far the most important part besides who you know, the fact you want to learn and are eager to.

 

[Puff]

Someone suggested this one, which honestly comes across as a tinfoil hat wearer's manifesto in some of the descriptions, but if the info is good, it's good.

https://nogridsurvivalprojects.com/

https://www.amazon.com/GRID-Survival-Projects-Claude-Davis/dp/173548153X

Amusingly, this book is blacklisted from Amazon's browsing history. Wonder if I'll end up on a list if I buy it.

Regarding your earlier post. Can we just call it "white collar" like we always have?

 

[InwardsStink]

Regarding your earlier post. Can we just call it "white collar" like we always have?

If you're talking about the term laptop caste I believe there is a different implication than white collar. They fall under the white collar umbrella but don't actually do anything, these aren't accountants or lawyers - they're asses in seats.

 

[Puff]

If you're talking about the term laptop caste I believe there is a different implication than white collar. They fall under the white collar umbrella but don't actually do anything, these aren't accountants or lawyers - they're asses in seats.

Do accountants actually DO anything though?
I guess you're trying to expand the middle management group to include everything hated about them rather than narrow from white collar, then.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Do accountants actually DO anything though?
I guess you're trying to expand the middle management group to include everything hated about them rather than narrow from white collar, then.

They verify the veracity of your balance sheet. Which is a very important job and supposedly keeps the managers/staff from stealing money. Just bribe the accountant.

I thank God every day that I was born to a farming family. I've never even picked up the profession myself and have never done more than plant a seed bed, but it still staggers me how ignorant people are regarding food production.

There's still a few things that can't be taught from books alone. Grafting needs a ton of practice if you're grafting something that hates grafts. People should grow some of their own food, just like how they should carry a firearm to defend themselves. Will they? No.

Currently in the same position and am a little terrified reading through the thread.

Basically, take some tutorials, learn some math, just do anything to put yourself above the rest. This industry is not going to fall, but will likely become an industry where floaters are not tolerated anymore.

I suggest picking up another hobby that isn't "on a laptop" related. I work in the Ag field so something not related would be my hobby for metal casting gears and fabricating machine parts. I know a dude that got into wielding as a hobby (he has actual eyesight) and now does wielding work for deep-sea rigs. He is the exception and not the rule, however.

You cannot control anything but yourself. Set your self up to prepare to do the best in any situation as you possibly can. One must act to live in another world.

 

[Sanshain]

There's still a few things that can't be taught from books alone. Grafting needs a ton of practice if you're grafting something that hates grafts. People should grow some of their own food, just like how they should carry a firearm to defend themselves. Will they? No.

Oh, absolutely. You need practice. But in the worst-case scenario you should, as you say, prepare yourself the best you can. It's better to have no experience and infinite training resources than neither of either. That's also a good reason to maintain a healthy food stock. Give yourself headroom to actually adapt and take advantage of your training rather than having to struggle desperately in a pass/fail scenario.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

So which caste do debt slave min-wagie college grad communists belong to?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Yeah, we don't need to kill anyone.

I'd like it as much as the next person if no one needed to die, but let's be honest, they aren't going to roll over when the time comes to take back our countries and world from them. Actually fixing this country is going to make the Holocaust, Great Purge, and Great Leap Forward look like a picnic. We will have to kill millions of people and put tens of millions of others into re-education camps/gulags, and we will do it gleefully, because they would do the same thing to us.

Even if gas issues are solved we are running out of phosphates

Peak phosphates is a meme just like peak oil, even with current reserves we have like decades left. Pretty sure there's tons of deposits we don't use (most of our phosphates come from Morocco IIRC) because it's not economical.

 

[Puff]

So which caste do debt slave min-wagie college grad communists belong to?

Probably the useless one.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I'd like it as much as the next person if no one needed to die, but let's be honest, they aren't going to roll over when the time comes to take back our countries and world from them. Actually fixing this country is going to make the Holocaust, Great Purge, and Great Leap Forward look like a picnic. We will have to kill millions of people and put tens of millions of others into re-education camps/gulags, and we will do it gleefully, because they would do the same thing to us.

Peak phosphates is a meme just like peak oil, even with current reserves we have like decades left. Pretty sure there's tons of deposits we don't use (most of our phosphates come from Morocco IIRC) because it's not economical.

I would be more worried about disease resistance. There's been work on breeding disease resistant varieties with high production, but usually it is just not possible. The scary thing is that most of the agricultural crops in the first world has at least a few diseases that can wipe that crop from the surface of the Earth.

Now, semi-domesticated crops on the other hand do much better (Pecans, "Wild" Rice native to the US, Black Walnut, Mexican Plum, etc.)

@Puff
At the rate we're going, the difference between "skilled " college grads in some critical industries and "college student with gender studies degree" is about to get inverted. Most chains I see are paying 15-19.50 USD/hr. Salary for a propagation specialist (Basically someone who grafts plants/ manages seed germination for greenhouses/nurseries) for crops starts at 40K a year if you're lucky so ~19.23 USD/hr and you get to work overtime and get buttfucked because "needs of business".

 

[ToxicKek]

Unless this latest downturn becomes the Big One (which IMO is nowhere near guaranteed) I'd honestly stick with it if that's where your passion lies.

Tech will always be in demand in some form, but the industries driving it will change. For example a lot of the firms currently shedding jobs are in crypto, 'buy now pay later' fintech, and miscellaneous SaaS apps: they're unicorns in the purest sense, few ever turn a legitimate profit, and damn near all are reliant on IPO or being bought out down the line. As long as you're willing to do your research on companies and keep a decent portfolio of work you should have no issue landing a long-term position somewhere.

Accurate. They never learn, or it's deliberate by design. The last few years in tech have been a near identical reenactment of the ramp up towards the Dotcom boom in 1995-2000 before the burst in 2000-2002.

Given the level of fuckery that we've had to put up with - 2008 housing crisis/mortgage backed securities bullshit swept under the rug and never actually resolved, the extreme number of unicorns and IPOs since 2019 (legal pump and dumps, investors and founders looking to cash out and leave someone else holding the bag), naked shorting and the rigged stock market (brought to light by the GME saga of 2021-present) and the fake pandemic of 2020-present - I'd say we're looking at 5 years minimum before we hit the bottom.

Assuming the fuckers that be (TPTB) let it happen by or in 2023, we'll probably see tech seedlings regrow the scorched earth by 2028.

I bring this up as you have two sides to the people that code: dipshits that just did it so they can sit on their ass and make six figures, or people who know how to code, but are insufferable to deal with. Taking in my dad’s experience, the best you could do is be in the middle. So many of these small tech start ups seem to fail due to company relationships moreso than the “just meant for buyout” that some claim. These companies are headed by an autistic neet, who then proceeeds to hire developers like him, and then the other departments. Things collapse as the marketers, who are tech illiterate for the most part, cannot gain any info about the product from the devs as either they are autistic, a neet who avoids people, or so far up their own ass that everyone works on their schedule. By the end, no one can sell the product or get shit done as their is little to no communication. In saying this, if you are a decent developer with good people skills, you are golden. I have heard my dad talk about raising developers up as they do both the development and the marketing.

So best advise, work on your coding, but also your people skills. If you can find a good in-between, then you are likely the most hire-able person in the coming years. The low skilled air breathers will probably get taken out hard if economic troubles persist, but after them, the pain in the ass devs would likely be next. Find a good middle, and make yourself a strong person both in your field and towards the others in your company. The easier you make other department’s jobs, the better.

Also accurate. The 80-20 rule, where 20% of employees do 80% of the work and 80% employees don't do shit while sitting on fragments of the remaining 20% of work to pretend to be busy, applies to all of white collar. Tech is not exempt from this.

Forget about what they conditioned you to believe in school, that hard work pays off.

What you study doesn't matter as much as how good you are at bullshitting and lying.

Being able to bullshit and wiggle your way around to convincing others that your bullshit is real smart work is what grows careers, not how hard you slave away.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I would be more worried about disease resistance. There's been work on breeding disease resistant varieties with high production, but usually it is just not possible. The scary thing is that most of the agricultural crops in the first world has at least a few diseases that can wipe that crop from the surface of the Earth.

Now, semi-domesticated crops on the other hand do much better (Pecans, "Wild" Rice native to the US, Black Walnut, Mexican Plum, etc.)

That's because we rely on only a few cultivars. In some cases, the food processing equipment (like the machines that cut fries to sell to restaurants, in frozen bags, etc.) can't even work with anything except a specific cultivar. Lack of genetic diversity in our food is a major threat, but fortunately there's a lot of cultivars out there.

 

[Puff]

That's because we rely on only a few cultivars. In some cases, the food processing equipment (like the machines that cut fries to sell to restaurants, in frozen bags, etc.) can't even work with anything except a specific cultivar. Lack of genetic diversity in our food is a major threat, but fortunately there's a lot of cultivars out there.

Could really fuck you for a growing season though. Imagine if the roundup ready corn or soy was fucked for a single year while at war with China.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Could really fuck you for a growing season though. Imagine if the roundup ready corn or soy was fucked for a single year while at war with China.

To my understanding the Plains states (Dakotas' et al) actually only have 2/3rds to 3/4 of a growing season (weather), so they actually have to rely heavily on engineering + GMO stuff for shorter crop cycles.

That's because we rely on only a few cultivars. In some cases, the food processing equipment (like the machines that cut fries to sell to restaurants, in frozen bags, etc.) can't even work with anything except a specific cultivar. Lack of genetic diversity in our food is a major threat, but fortunately there's a lot of cultivars out there.

Good luck, because I suspect a certain section of the industry is deliberately trying to push these old cultivars out. I can not find any heirloom cultivars at even seed companies (for me right now) and have resorted to asking the USDA-GRIN system at times. It is a little better on those not " mass produced" crops (Mulberry, Hickories) but there is almost no seeds available lest you collect yourself right now.

I am not a plant pathology worker, because otherwise I'd be screaming "We're so fucked" before slicing my wrists and suck starting a shotgun. But even then, I am very worried because so many people take this for granted, even those who understand gardening/agriculture.

"Oh, just plant an apricot, it'll do fine regardless even though we get early spring frosts in TX and OK!"
"Pecans don't need that much water, we'll be fine!"
And the dumbest one I've heard so far:
"What do you mean I need to water my plants to see fruit? We get like 38 inches a year!"

 

[George Lucas]

Do accountants actually DO anything though?
I guess you're trying to expand the middle management group to include everything hated about them rather than narrow from white collar, then.

In order to make and operate a budget you have to do accounting. I don’t think it’s possible to operate a budget without accounting.

Obviously there are other domains and applications of accounting, but it’s easy for blue collar workers to understand the value of a budget, and many blue collar families actually do live on budgets, or at least try to.

Accounting also can’t be automated. You could automate the entire accounting system perfectly, but you still need someone to not only verify it, but understand the accounting process. In essence, automation can reduce the cost of accounting but can’t reduce the value of the information it provides (this law can be applied to any kind of automation).

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Sorry, was at work when I made the first post, and I wanted to expand.

Now, I am currently a college student like you and am in the process of picking up an internship myself, but there are some things I have noticed that may do you good in the field. I should also add that my father works in tech companies (mostly startups nowadays) as a marketing person, so I am going to use some information I gained from listening to him.

Here is the deal. According to my dad and the friends he has that run these companies, the industry is pretty open currently and still pays quite well. He was saying this pretty recently, so not many are scared off by the economy it seems. If it also helps, he has been working with a company interested in opening up web development and challenging Google. There does seem to be a competitive drive to take on the big dogs more so than I feel people on here will lead you to believe.

Going through school, it is fairly obvious that many up-and-coming devs are stupid as shit and/or up their own ass. I remember being in a class where we were doing basic C# and this kid on the verge of graduation was like WOWWY! This is so incredible! We were barely making shit in class. Hell, there was one guy that got by on just stealing other people’s shit. Most of my classmates were only ever in classes with the easy teacher, and they were all strictly programming, so they missed much of the extra shit. As for the ones that did take those classes, even if I can admit that they knew more in some areas, were also up their own ass and retarded in believing they were going to create massive sites with Java alone. It also doesn’t help that many are literally autistic or trannies.

I bring this up as you have two sides to the people that code: dipshits that just did it so they can sit on their ass and make six figures, or people who know how to code, but are insufferable to deal with. Taking in my dad’s experience, the best you could do is be in the middle. So many of these small tech start ups seem to fail due to company relationships moreso than the “just meant for buyout” that some claim. These companies are headed by an autistic neet, who then proceeeds to hire developers like him, and then the other departments. Things collapse as the marketers, who are tech illiterate for the most part, cannot gain any info about the product from the devs as either they are autistic, a neet who avoids people, or so far up their own ass that everyone works on their schedule. By the end, no one can sell the product or get shit done as their is little to no communication. In saying this, if you are a decent developer with good people skills, you are golden. I have heard my dad talk about raising developers up as they do both the development and the marketing.

So best advise, work on your coding, but also your people skills. If you can find a good in-between, then you are likely the most hire-able person in the coming years. The low skilled air breathers will probably get taken out hard if economic troubles persist, but after them, the pain in the ass devs would likely be next. Find a good middle, and make yourself a strong person both in your field and towards the others in your company. The easier you make other department’s jobs, the better.

I recommend how to win friends and influence people by dale carnegie. I try to reread it at least once a year.

If you can find a subset in your field like that and also be able to communicate with people you will be set. I don’t think this is the “big one” but we are in a recession headed for a depression.

Working in a highly technical subset of engineering (about 200-300 people in the US, 2-3 years to be fully trained) means that I know I will never not have a job. Worst case is having to move to get a job with another company in this field.

 

[Colloid]

Biden's about to become the next Herbert Hoover at the rate things are currently going. Should've just retired when you had the chance you geriatric faggot. This will be your legacy.

 

[Male Idiot]

Sorry to say, but I wouldn't bet on any big Helter Skelter.

It won't be nigs vs spics vs whites and honorary yellow based catboy allies.

This giant collapse was popularised by US movies in a what if sci fi where they usually start with nukes.

But in an economic collapse, the very worst (very unlikely, but lets get autistic) scenario you'll get is a junta or dictator setting up shop and having a few Abrams go Winnie the Square over food rioters, nig or otherwise.

Basically Russia with more niggers instead of vatniks. It won't be a total collapse where magically all nignogs will go to California and Civil War 2.0 Waddymelon Bogaloo will start.

Sure a lot of nigs will be goodified by an opportunist militia, cartel, or simply other nig gangs, but the last one is already workin' on it.

Jamal may have to mine coal or pick cotton for glorious leader instead of relying on gibsmedat, or Sergeant Tyrone and Shariff Cleatus will run him over in their Banana-cowboy themed humvee.

 

[Hippopatumus]

Good lord, anyone reading this, please don't drop out of college or change majors because you're reading our autistic end-of-the-world screeds on an online cyberbullying forum

Tech is crashing like in 2001: fact.

Competition for the remaining jobs is going to be absolutely fierce and wages are set to plummet. Additionally another round of offshoring is imminent.

Don't drop out of school, but diversifying into non-tech skills is a very good idea. It may be very difficult to land a good tech job in the next five years.

Do accountants actually DO anything though?

Married to one. A huge amount of accounting could and perhaps should be automated, but 90% of the job is actually being a therapist / social worker.

 

[Aqua Panda]

Tech is crashing like in 2001: fact.

Competition for the remaining jobs is going to be absolutely fierce and wages are set to plummet. Additionally another round of offshoring is imminent.

Don't drop out of school, but diversifying into non-tech skills is a very good idea. It may be very difficult to land a good tech job in the next five years.

This.

Tech will still be valuable long term, but the coming shitshow is going to wreck a lot and force people to compete for limited openings.

I'd strongly consider brushing up on accounting skills in addition to tech.