I hate pro-bughive channels

[Spud]

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Very few English either, makes one think.

in 2018 the UK was still a part of the EU. Checkmate bigot

 

[Xarpho]

I've mentioned it earlier but I'm not sure if NotJustBikes belongs here. Britmonkey and Adam Something absolutely, but not NotJustBikes. He's far less of a sperg and is more reasonable in what he advocates for (note his streetcar suburbs video, you would never see something like that in an Adam Something video).

He even states here: "There is not a problem with suburbs. Suburbs have existed almost as long as cities have existed, and there is nothing inherently wrong with them. The problem is car-dependent suburbs, and that is what I mean when I talk about suburbia." The man has a concept of nuance the more autistic ones lack. I'll give him credit for that. Plus he's never advocated for stuffing as many people as possible into high-rises or banning cars altogether.

This thumbnail pisses me off because he implies that he should go in a straight line but can't, but that's the fault of the railroad above anything else. Other than that, it's the same tropes as all the bughive channels. Muh stroads. Muh parking lots. Muh sidewalks are too narrow. Muh right hand turn on red.

 

[SwanSwanson]

So the arguments against walking based cities are:

* Being too lazy to bike up hills

* Female brained neurosis about getting mugged by brown people

* Commie blocks are bad(even though they already exist in a shitty car based society

Completely burgerbrained takes

 

[DeadwastePrime]

So the arguments against walking based cities are:

* Being too lazy to bike up hills

* Female brained neurosis about getting mugged by brown people

* Commie blocks are bad(even though they already exist in a shitty car based society

yes

 

[Kermit Jizz]

So the arguments against walking based cities are:

* Being too lazy to bike up hills

* Female brained neurosis about getting mugged by brown people

* Commie blocks are bad(even though they already exist in a shitty car based society

Completely burgerbrained takes

No, if you went back to the last page you would see some of the points I made. Very few people live within walking distance of where they need to go in American cities. They are far more sprawling than other countries cities, and it is not uncommon to need to travel many miles within, or even in and out of the city. Walking simply will not cut it for 99% of people, at best you could argue for public transport but that would still be logistically impossible.

 

[SwanSwanson]

No, if you went back to the last page you would see some of the points I made. Very few people live within walking distance of where they need to go in American cities. They are far more sprawling than other countries cities, and it is not uncommon to need to travel many miles within, or even in and out of the city. Walking simply will not cut it for 99% of people, at best you could argue for public transport but that would still be logistically impossible.

Thats what trains are for. In a more ideal setting, the only reason you'd need a car in a country as large as America is for traveling between cities.

 

[quaawaa]

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This thumbnail pisses me off because he implies that he should go in a straight line but can't, but that's the fault of the railroad above anything else. Other than that, it's the same tropes as all the bughive channels. Muh stroads. Muh parking lots. Muh sidewalks are too narrow. Muh right hand turn on red.

These guys will complain about having to cross a two lane road but not having to cross a rail yard in the middle of the city that is as wide as a 20 lane highway. Every road in the city center of NotJustBikes’ favorite city of Amsterdam is as wide as a six lane road if you include the canals, sidewalks, and bike lanes, yet he doesn’t complain about having to walk a half a kilometer to go 50 meters as the crow flies (like if you wanted to go from the middle of a block to the other side of the canal).


According to urbanists, it’s good to have your downtown split apart by a nearly quarter mile wide strip of railroads (Frankfurt):

But it’s bad to have a 425 ft wide road in the suburbs (Houston):

 

[Moja Zemlja]

Thats what trains are for. In a more ideal setting, the only reason you'd need a car in a country as large as America is for traveling between cities.

We don't live in an ideal setting, the US for years has been built with the car in mind and it would be extremely expensive and time consuming to try and change that.

 

[Skookum Jim]

on one hand OP is correct, i would highly dislike living in the bughive, and the people who are advocating for it on youtube are genuinely not bright, but on the other, one has to admit that compared to western europe at least, American city design is fucking awful. No one can walk anywhere, density is way too low, and it just creates this fucking morass of sprawling housing developments for hundreds of miles around that exist only to house people who drive into the city to work, its a goddamn nightmare.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I really hate how Atlanta, due to being a hub, has endless looping and merging and exits on the interstates coiled around it. There’s no just driving on city streets in the Atlanta metro area, it’s a constant battle of having to merge, exit, enter, change lanes, nonstop.

 

[DJ Grelle]

Isn't movieblob also a pro-bughive channel with his desire for the superior future and his disdain for flyover states?

 

[The Great Chandler]

This is one of the fuckers I was thinking belonged here. I only saw one of his videos, but fuck me it drove me crazy. His constant use of soy-phrases like "anti-human road design" boiled my piss. His entire spiel about American cities being shit basically boiled down to: duurrrrrrrrr there's no sidewalks in this shopping district that's an hour+ walk from any residences, if I didn't have a car I couldn't live here durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Any city I've ever lived near had the same issue in that 99% of the traffic is people going in and out of the city. Every fucking city has had this issue, tons of people work in the city but don't live in it. How do you build a public transportation system that efficiently gets thousands upon thousands, possibly millions depending on the city, of people up to a half hour outside city limits anywhere in the city? Answer: you fucking don't just let them drive cars you retarded nigger. Seriously, if not owning a car is such a death sentence in American cities, where are all these people struggling without cars? You can get a beat up piece of shit that'll get you around town for less than a months rent in most cities, and that's assuming you didn't just inherit a car from your parents like a lot of American teens do.

Sorry about the rant, but listening to these retards makes me seethe.

Hell! You can get around with Uber if you're fine with paying around $20+ to make a commute from the suburbs to work or order groceries online via delivery. Oh wait! I thought those dumbasses wanted no cars?

Also who the hell says "anti-human road design"?

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

So I don’t mind having better designed cities but I feel like a lot of these channels are disingenuous. in my opinion they want to bulldoze over small towns and suburbia. And they don’t want to admit that there’s a reason people are trying to flee the city. I say this as someone who unfortunately grew up in the center of a large city. I hate it with a passion. The public transport was ok, but that didn’t make up for the crime, the assholes, and the general bs that Democrats tout as normal.

I do hate a lot of the HOAs, zoning laws, etc., but I don’t want to live in an overpriced city hell scape.

 

[scallion]

you can just walk over there if you are too drunk to drive.

or you could just drive anyway like a normal person

 

[DeadwastePrime]

or you could just drive anyway like a normal person

i love wrecking my several thousand dollar car into things and also having expensive medical bills and property damage suits against me to deal with as well

 

[Shroom King]

or you could just drive anyway like a normal person

But if you get busted for DUI, then you can't get a security clearance to work at a nuclear power plant.

 

[PaleTay]

I wish I lived within walking distance from clubs, or the bus ran late enough.

 

[LillWeeb]

I take or more nuance approach I prefer That each major city in the USA , more then 200,00 People should be possible to live car free while in the city., Our cities should be built around people and not cars. However People in rural areas and father out suburbs need cars and nothing will ever change that. But how does making car free cities benefit people who don't live in cities, well maintaining urban freeways and car infrastructure is crazy expensive especially with constant gridlock traffic , hence why construction is always constant. If less people drive it would lessen the strain on resources (oil). The problem people on both sides are ether everyone needs to drive cars always, or no cars for anyone, losing the concept of cities and the country are different, and have different transportation needs.

 

[Chuck McGill]

What you wanted:



What you got:

 

[Chuck McGill]

Hell! You can get around with Uber if you're fine with paying around $20+ to make a commute from the suburbs to work or order groceries online via delivery. Oh wait! I thought those dumbasses wanted no cars?

Also who the hell says "anti-human road design"?

This is their Achilles' heel right here. I've known city bugmen and while they didn't explicitly espouse anti-car sentiment, they were carless and subject to similar lefty mindviruses. And these niggers wanted a ride everywhere all the fucking time. This was before Uber, so they were naturally bugging me constantly for rides, all the while gushing about how great public transit is. What a lot of these people actually mean is "I want the benefits of vehicle ownership but I'm too much of a fuckup to afford and safely operate a car, so I'll use the old smug cope"