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[Oxous]

@Oxous
Again, I find it telling that in that long-ass article of cope, not a single one mentions addressing the issues the voters face. No, it's all about "der messaging" and "money to buy ads".


Also, lol, not being subtle anymore eh? Planning to keep spics on your plantation?

The 'tell' in that article for me was that Democrat leadership continues to live in denial and plug their ears while their lower-ranking colleagues are screaming for them to wake up and do something, anything. But that's a pretty good takeaway too.

 

[Ita Mori]

Remember, everything the left does is ok for the right to do.

Any state that has Sanctuary Cities does not get any Federal Funding. Those terms are now acceptable.

Fuck no; let them have their beaners and sandniggers; they're not getting our guns.
Shit deal. Do not want.

Would this get a mention on Jim's monthly Chud streams? This would be a 7 star day:

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Missed the chance to use RELIABLE SOURCES instead of SOURCE.

 

[Gehenna]

Close. What the Uniparty needed was a decisive battle after rigging the election in 2020.

The Decisive Battle

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The Email Caste NEEDS to put down the growing Populist Uprising from the Forgotten Caste. They tossed EVERYTHING into 2020, they have no more power they can use against the right, and the right was supposed to react in certain predictable (presuming that you have a correct mental model of rural America or conservatives, they don't) ways. A confrontation that the Uniparty and the GOPe could put down and cover in the press forever would suppress the Forgotten Caste and the Populists (MAGA) for, well, long enough. Beyond that, they NEEDED to bleed that energy out of the right before it gets put to more useful, or at least less controlled, uses.

To that end, Jan 6th was supposed to be it -- they had bombs planted, they had panic buttons removed from sacrificial lambs' offices, they had a bill condemning the violence submitted before the event, they had professional agitators (Epps and the BLM founder who was onsite with an CNN journalist who was an Antifa filmmaker) on site, they had everything ready. And then the worst they got was a guy cosplaying as the fucking Dragonborn doing an unapproved tour -- they even obeyed the fucking velvet ropes. And they FUCKED UP THE TIMING, because it happened before Trump even gave his speech.

Anyone who knows anything about Conservatives or Rural America knew better than to expect Antifa terrorist rioting from the right, even with them blatantly stealing an election. But the left has NEVER had a correct mental model of Rural America, Conservatives, or Trump. The cartoon supervillains that exist in their minds take precedence over everything else. I won't fedpost here, but, if the left is hoping for Antifa style riots from the right, they're going to WISH that's all they got if shit goes down. The left organizes sheep. The right uses lone wolves.

But they NEED this confrontation. They NEED to smack down the Populists and the Forgotten Caste (formerly known as "working class") before the Forgotten Caste realizes they have WAY more political power than the Email Caste. To wit: The Email Caste can write mean news articles and fuck with bank accounts. The Forgotten Caste can refuse to put out fires or deliver food. The Forgotten Caste wins, 100% of the time, if it comes to that. Which is why they are acting like Jan 6th WAS a violent lynching and terror bombing of our nation's capital, despite it, well, not being that.

Meanwhile, the right is slowly seething and plotting. Replacing local election officials. Primarying RINOs. Memeing the shit out of stuff -- Lets go Brandon and "I did that" stickers, which are constant reminders that the right has NOT been cowed into submission. The right is fighting back in the culture war for the first time in 40 years -- thanks GamerGate -- and whoops, it turns out the left has a huge pedophile problem and anyone not a crazy eyed radical marxist doesn't exactly like what they're seeing the left DO with the culture. Worse, the right is rejecting the "lose with dignity" shit, and refusing to be controlled opposition anymore.

Should be an interesting decade, that's for sure.

There is a saying I feel the Democrats were ignorant of.

"Who draws his sword against his prince, must throw away the scabbard" ~Thomas Fuller.

If you decide to unseat the king you don't get to continue on as normal. Win or lose you have locked yourself into the fight until one or both of you cease to exist. They took aim at the king, unseated him... but did not -kill- him. And now they are locked into an All-In stance with all their policies because the king now is doing all he can to fulfil his end of the making one side not exist.

"Just Mitch key jingling again, just some more GOPe can kicking."

*actually passes*

"W-w-well, they gave the Demonrats a freebie before they get crushed. We'll get 'em next time!"

It passing came as a surprise... and not a good one. But it does not appear to be Mitch cucking. exactly 10 republicans went for it, all with known RINO tendencies. I am personally keeping out an eye for if any announce retirement because I suspect this one was a more direct example of bribery,

 

[Ita Mori]

Message them what.

"Hello my Latinx amigos, we are a proud inclusive party that love niggers and faggots and trannies and illegal tacos"

"Hola mis amigos latinx, vamos al grano.
Si ustedes no salen a votar por nuestros negroides, putos, lesbianas, o quien sea que pusimos para su pinche pueblo del asco, sus culos van de regreso a Mexico, queda claro?"

 

[Raoul_Duke]

You know, at this rate, maybe I should take up some time in a monastery. It'll clear my head, get me closer to God, and I'd have a bed to sleep in. More things than'll happen with all that's happening now.

 

[MrJokerRager]

There is a saying I feel the Democrats were ignorant of.

"Who draws his sword against his prince, must throw away the scabbard" ~Thomas Fuller.

If you decide to unseat the king you don't get to continue on as normal. Win or lose you have locked yourself into the fight until one or both of you cease to exist. They took aim at the king, unseated him... but did not -kill- him. And now they are locked into an All-In stance with all their policies because the king now is doing all he can to fulfil his end of the making one side not exist.


It passing came as a surprise... and not a good one. But it does not appear to be Mitch cucking. exactly 10 republicans went for it, all with known RINO tendencies. I am personally keeping out an eye for if any announce retirement because I suspect this one was a more direct example of bribery,

Looks like Razor was ranting about it today.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

Asset prices are floating on an inflationary bubble. The idea that you can blow up a bubble, and then somehow stop the inflation from getting out into the wider economy without popping the bubble, is something that only happens in fairy-tales and macroeconomics textbooks.

We should have been raising rates 10 years ago. Instead they tried to keep the party going and kicked the can down the road. Trump was just as guilty as everyone else in this. Now the party is over, the tab is due and everyone is running out of the bar. And as usual the middle class is going to get stuck paying it.

 

[Trust Me I Know]

Ok that's pretty hilarious in on itself but imagine if he fucking DIES from it, what are the headlines gonna look like

They would never admit that Fauci died from corona. They'd send his body double out and claim he recovered, and then a month later he would disappear in a mysterious plane crash.

 

[Nate Higgers]

This shit is just pissing me off. Not to power level, but I’ve spent the last 18 years working as an engineer in heavy industry and I’ve never seen anything like this before.

Biden doesn’t seem to understand (Or does and is intentionally misleading) that the cost of everything has gone up. It‘s not just the price of oil, it’s the price of the other feedstock, it‘s the price of the equipment, it’s the cost of skilled labor, etc etc

Everything is hard to find now. Off the shelf components are impossible to lay hands on. Charms (single I/O points for the Delta V DCS) used to be readily available within a day or two. Now their price has doubled and have months long lead times.

Fuck, I’m trying to execute a project that involves the installation of 3 new telephone poles by our waste water ponds and it’s a 4 month fucking lead time….. For a giant wooden stick.



I don’t take financial or political advice from people who dress up like small woodland creatures to masturbate.

Dude you know how long the lead time was for a while on basic fucking shit on the pleb side of things? I’m talking about like a several month lead time for fucking 2x4 LED troffers. There was a while just recently where I could not find a single fucking supply house that had a 2-pole 30a bolt-in GE breaker in stock. The dumb lady behind the counter at Crescent said “uh you could try Home Depot?”. I guess she wasn’t aware that Home Depot only sells (residential) stab-in breakers and you can (usually) get bolt ins at commercial supply houses.

Wire, PVC, even fucking disconnects are all wildly unpredictable right now.

 

[quaawaa]

We should have been raising rates 10 years ago. Instead they tried to keep the party going and kicked the can down the road. Trump was just as guilty as everyone else in this. Now the party is over, the tab is due and everyone is running out of the bar. And as usual the middle class is going to get stuck paying it.

Trump wasn't guilty, the Fed bears all of the blame. They refused to raise rates under Obama because doing so would have eliminated his “recovery” from the 2008 recession. Trump complained about the Fed's political bias and how they only raised rates under him, but that was just a complaint. The Fed still was raising the interest rate until the blue states locked down and destroyed the economy.
Look at this chart and tell me that the Fed isn’t politically biased and wasn’t playing favorites:

 

[Kane Lives]

Trump wasn’t guilty, the Fed bears all of the blame. They refused to raise rates under Obama because doing so would have eliminated his “recovery” from the 2008 recession. Trump complained about the Fed's political bias and how they only raised rates under him, but that was just a complaint. The Fed still was raising the interest rate until the blue states locked down and destroyed the economy.
Look at this chart and tell me that the Fed isn’t politically biased and wasn’t playing favorites:
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Wait, what the fuck. They kept rates at near zero throughout the Black Jesus' term? This is a self-inflicted wound, if nothing else.

 

[Oxous]

Anyone know anything about this? Otero County, New Mexico's election commission is refusing to certify the results of primary elections that occurred on June 7 because they don't trust the Dominion voting machines. They also voted last week to do a recount by hand and to discontinue the use of Dominion machines for the general election. NM's secretary of state is asking the state's Supreme Court to get involved and now it's shaping up to be a giant legal clusterfuck.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

Trump wasn’t guilty, the Fed bears all of the blame. They refused to raise rates under Obama because doing so would have eliminated his “recovery” from 2008.
Look at this chart and tell me that the Fed isn’t politically biased and wasn’t playing favorites:
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Trump wanted rates to go negative in 2019 and he constantly boasted about record stock market indexes even though it was all inflated due to cheap credit. To his credit, his economic policy created a much more favorable environment for rate increases than Obama did, but as soon as the stock market started throwing a fit in late 2018 the Fed reversed course.

 

[soy_king]

The 10th amendment at least comes up occasionally, how often do 3rd amendment issues get raised?

If you think that's nuts, there is no case law at all concerning the 9th Amendment, and that one is theoretically crucial.

Unfortunately the Supreme Court ruled in 1987 with the national drinking age law that this kind of thing is kosher. Depending on the amount of funds the federal government withholds. If it's a small amount, it isn't coercive, and thus is okay. If it's a large amount, that would be coercive and thus unconstitutional under the standard the Court set

Seems dumb, gives GOP Senators who it is said would support a bill an excuse to back out. Democrats always do this they can't resist going that one step that takes things too far to get the Republican support they need

As much as you might dislike it, Conditional Spending is actually a much better system than just blanketly forcing rules on private citizens and the states. At least there you've got some choice.

I'm curious to see what they're going to tie it to. Probably future subsidies to state law enforcement, if I had to guess.

 

[Nate Higgers]

"Hola mis amigos latinx, vamos al grano.
Si ustedes no salen a votar por nuestros negroides, putos, lesbianas, o quien sea que pusimos para su pinche pueblo del asco, sus culos van de regreso a Mexico, queda claro?"

Hola mis amigxs mojadxs*

Anyone know anything about this? Otero County, New Mexico's election commission is refusing to certify the results of primary elections that occurred on June 7 because they don't trust the Dominion voting machines. They also voted last week to do a recount by hand and to discontinue the use of Dominion machines for the general election. NM's secretary of state is asking the state's Supreme Court to get involved and now it's shaping up to be a giant legal clusterfuck.

Doesn’t surprise me but I didn’t hear anything about it (fuck the news though). Otero county is one of the “rural” counties in NM and it’s more than marginally conservative. Hell, the county commish is/was in hot water for apparently being on the “unauthorized tour” of the capitol during Jan VI. Most of the county is made up of ranches/farms, meth traffickers/users, border patrol and other FLEO agents, literal glow in the dark military industrial complex contractors (Raytheon and the like), afghan refugees (don’t ask), dumb gay engineer nerds, dumb gay native Americans, and fancy gay air force pilots (white sands and holloman AFB are in county). My point is that the county is a far cry from being sympathetic to the “muh insuhrecshun worse than nine elebun” narrative. Hell, there was an “ALL LIVES MATTER” billboard on Highway 70 as you drive south out of Alamogordo lmao

ETA2: almost all of NM is conservative or conservative-adjacent. The state has the same issue as somewhere like NYS; the faggy big cities (Santa Fe, Albuquerque, and Las Cruces) are where the colleges and the laptop class is concentrated. Just a 10-15 minute drive down the county outside any of those cities though and you’re literally in “Trump Country”.

“Wassamadder? Guys can’t visit the capital anymore? Guys can’t have fun anymore?” - Shane “SNL is kill” Gillis

 

[draggs]

As much as you might dislike it, Conditional Spending is actually a much better system than just blanketly forcing rules on private citizens and the states. At least there you've got some choice.

I'm curious to see what they're going to tie it to. Probably future subsidies to state law enforcement, if I had to guess.

Well here's the standard set by South Dakota v. Boyle:

1. The spending must promote "the general welfare."
2. The condition must be unambiguous.
3. The condition should relate "to the federal interest in particular national projects or programs."
4. The condition imposed on the states must not, in itself, be unconstitutional.
5. The condition must not be coercive.

The standard set by NFIB v. Sebelius is that the federal government cannot force states to join a federal program (in this case, Medicaid expansion), and if states choose not to do so, they do not get the funding appropriated for the program, but they cannot be denied funding they were already receiving (Obama administration tried to take away ALL federal funding for Medicaid from states that did not join the expansion). I'm sure the drafters of any law that would try to do this would remember NFIB v. Sebelius and make sure that only future appropriations, not recurring yearly appropriations for the states already granted, would be denied

So this "if you don't pass a red flag law to our standards you don't get funding" thing would meet standards

1 (reducing gun violence promotes the general welfare)
2 (the condition is unambiguous)
3 (this could be iffy but passing a law to fund states' enforcement of red flag laws that meet a federal-set standard is a particular national program, and the condition relates to the federal interest in having a nationwide minimum uniform standard)
4 (red flag laws are at the moment constitutional, and the only way they would not be is if they were abused as part of a backdoor large scale confiscation scheme that denied people their second amendment rights unjustly)

And depending on the Congress and the executive being smart enough to make sure the financial penalty to non-compliant states is not onerous, it would pass the muster for 5 as well

It passing came as a surprise... and not a good one. But it does not appear to be Mitch cucking. exactly 10 republicans went for it, all with known RINO tendencies. I am personally keeping out an eye for if any announce retirement because I suspect this one was a more direct example of bribery,

Nothing has passed. There is no draft bill, no votes have been taken in either chamber

 

[Sithis]

So did anyone else catch Tuckers slip tonight when he started to say "fucks...trucks full of food are being turned away"

Spoiler: spoiler

 

[Random Internet Person]

There is a saying I feel the Democrats were ignorant of.

"Who draws his sword against his prince, must throw away the scabbard" ~Thomas Fuller.

If you decide to unseat the king you don't get to continue on as normal. Win or lose you have locked yourself into the fight until one or both of you cease to exist. They took aim at the king, unseated him... but did not -kill- him. And now they are locked into an All-In stance with all their policies because the king now is doing all he can to fulfil his end of the making one side not exist.

Is that why there hasn't been a push to get Biden to resign?

 

[soy_king]

Well here's the standard set by South Dakota v. Dole:

1. The spending must promote "the general welfare."
2. The condition must be unambiguous.
3. The condition should relate "to the federal interest in particular national projects or programs."
4. The condition imposed on the states must not, in itself, be unconstitutional.
5. The condition must not be coercive.

The standard set by NFIB v. Sebelius is that the federal government cannot force states to join a federal program (in this case, Medicaid expansion), and if states choose not to do so, they do not get the funding appropriated for the program, but they cannot be denied funding they were already receiving (Obama administration tried to take away ALL federal funding for Medicaid from states that did not join the expansion). I'm sure the drafters of any law that would try to do this would remember NFIB v. Sebelius and make sure that only future appropriations, not recurring yearly appropriations for the states already granted, would be denied

So this "if you don't pass a red flag law to our standards you don't get funding" thing would meet standards

1 (reducing gun violence promotes the general welfare)
2 (the condition is unambiguous)
3 (this could be iffy but passing a law to fund states' enforcement of red flag laws that meet a federal-set standard is a particular national program, and the condition relates to the federal interest in having a nationwide minimum uniform standard)
4 (red flag laws are at the moment constitutional, and the only way they would not be is if they were abused as part of a backdoor large scale confiscation scheme that denied people their second amendment rights unjustly)

And depending on the Congress and the executive being smart enough to make sure the financial penalty to non-compliant states is not onerous, it would pass the muster for 5 as well

Nothing has passed. There is no draft bill, no votes have been taken in either chamber

ftfy

 

[LUNEKO]

There is a saying I feel the Democrats were ignorant of.

"Who draws his sword against his prince, must throw away the scabbard" ~Thomas Fuller.

If you decide to unseat the king you don't get to continue on as normal. Win or lose you have locked yourself into the fight until one or both of you cease to exist. They took aim at the king, unseated him... but did not -kill- him. And now they are locked into an All-In stance with all their policies because the king now is doing all he can to fulfil his end of the making one side not exist.


It passing came as a surprise... and not a good one. But it does not appear to be Mitch cucking. exactly 10 republicans went for it, all with known RINO tendencies. I am personally keeping out an eye for if any announce retirement because I suspect this one was a more direct example of bribery,

So they where hoping the January 6th public execution would just kill all dissent after unseating Trump?
Are they that detached from reality?