Post videos of people dying - Self explanatory really

GloryHole Stalker said:
I'm not buying the plaster of paris thing. It disintegrates into dust upon impact. If they were, however, able to basically turn the hand wraps into hardened like casts, 1. Collins would have been killed in that fight, and 2. His father (who was the one to notice the missing padding when he shook Resto's hand after the fight) would certainly have noticed that as well. Removing the padding was more than sufficient to cause the damage done in that fight. For years, that was the official story...that the padding had been removed. It was the documentary that was made about the fight years later where Resto said the stuff about the plaster of paris. Now I do believe him however, when it comes to having stimulants given to him during the fight. Resto's trainer, Panama Lewis, was also working the corner of Aaron Pryor when he defeated Alexis Arguello, in their legendary first fight in the early 80's and there were a couple of times Lewis directed the other cornerman to give Pryor a drink from a bottle other than the regular water bottle. It was investigated, but nothing ever came of it, but in some peoples eyes, it tainted Pryor's win over Arguello.

Edit: sorry for the off topic sperg.
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PoP hardens when it is exposed to moisture. The concept is to have it in the glove, not cured, which makes it hard to detect, but as a fighter sweats into the glove it hardens. It's never supposed to turn into a rock solid substance, but if you are talking glove padding PoP mixed into it, it changes the impact characteristic of that glove.
It's not like putting on hulk gloves of hardened plaster, but more like the difference of throwing regular dry beach sand at someone, and then grabbing a soaked handful of sand from the surf and throwing that.
 
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Sho'nuff said:
PoP hardens when it is exposed to moisture. The concept is to have it in the glove, not cured, which makes it hard to detect, but as a fighter sweats into the glove it hardens. It's never supposed to turn into a rock solid substance, but if you are talking glove padding PoP mixed into it, it changes the impact characteristic of that glove.
It's not like putting on hulk gloves of hardened plaster, but more like the difference of throwing regular dry beach sand at someone, and then grabbing a soaked handful of sand from the surf and throwing that.
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In the instance of the Collins/Resto fight, the people investigating it only found holes in the inside of the gloves where some of the horsehair padding was removed. No signs of pop or any other substances inside the gloves. In the 50s or early 60s. An experiment was conducted by... maybe Ring magazine to attempt to duplicate what was accused of Jack Dempsey against Jess Willard. Namely, that he had plaster of Paris in his wraps. The experiment was a failure as the pop crumbled to dust after a few good punches on a heavy bag. Maybe something like this can actually be done, but it wasn't in the Collins/Reston fight.
 
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GloryHole Stalker said:
In the instance of the Collins/Resto fight, the people investigating it only found holes in the inside of the gloves where some of the horsehair padding was removed. No signs of pop or any other substances inside the gloves. In the 50s or early 60s. An experiment was conducted by... maybe Ring magazine to attempt to duplicate what was accused of Jack Dempsey against Jess Willard. Namely, that he had plaster of Paris in his wraps. The experiment was a failure as the pop crumbled to dust after a few good punches on a heavy bag. Maybe something like this can actually be done, but it wasn't in the Collins/Reston fight.
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Calling it PoP is a meme, but the mix of plaster whatever the hell they get to make it work is legitimate. Margarito got caught and suspended for it before the Mosely fight. Margarito was on a couple fight winning streak against some big names, mainly Cotto. Cotto is a phenomenal fighter and Margarito completely destroyed him, Marg was tough, but should have never been capable of that type of damage. That win basically launched him in the states and shortly thereafter got the Mosely fight. Before the fight Marg's trainer was caught putting some kind of plaster pad wrapped into his fighters wraps. It was removed, but since this was prefight, the fight went forward with legit wraps. Mosely beat the brakes off of Marg as everyone started to figure out that Margarito has likely pulling this scam for a little while. Queue 1 year suspension, and a tune up fight against an ok Mexican fighter than you'd expect Margarito to knock out (was known to stop fight and not go the distance). And he somehow got a Pacquaio fight which he got destroyed for 12, Pacman saying he purposely punished him... and a return fight with Cotto which Cotto stopped in the 9th with a tko he was beating Margarito so bad, post fight Cotto said "suddenly he doesn't hit so hard".
After his little US punishment tour he went back to Mexico to fight plumbers.

Cotto post/during Margarito I fight:
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Margarito post Pacquaio fight where Manny purposely tried to hurt this fucker.
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This is what Cotto did to him in their rematch.
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Prefight, Cotto left/Marg right
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please said:
Lmao DONT MOVE like the guy was gonna do much of anything after 7 shots close if not dead on center mass
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6 shots. Also cops are instructed to say "don't move"/"stop resisting"/"show me your hands"/"drop the gun"/etc for legal reasons a defense attorney will almost always attempt to exploit. They say it even if it's obvious that the person is dead.
 
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Two-bit said:
If that guy wanted to end that officer, why not just use that 1.5 ton hunk of metal to crash into him? Why try to hit him with an axe when you know for a fact he's packing a gun?? I know I know...I shouldn't be applying logic to some crazy dumbass.
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Obviously true, but the other angle shows that things could have gone very differently if he had stopped his car correctly, those few seconds gave the officer ample time to put his hand on his weapon and take a few steps back.

 
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Smooth Operator said:
Obviously true, but the other angle shows that things could have gone very differently if he had stopped his car correctly, those few seconds gave the officer ample time to put his hand on his weapon and take a few steps back.

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Imagine you've finally read the headline that made you snap. That's it, you think to yourself, I'm gonna do some fucked up shit to show the world how mad I am. You don your Sam Fisher cosplay gear, grab a fucking hatchet, and get in the car. Driving down the road, you spot a cop on the side of the road. The intensity builds as you near your target and you feel the rage building in your core. The world will know today just how bad things really are. You slam the brakes, fling open the door and - whoops car isn't in park. You fling open - fuck the hatchet is stuck under the pedal. YOU FLING OPEN THE DOOR and with seething rage you- pop pop pop pop pop pop

Just another bad day.
*record scratch*
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Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.
 
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