Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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But if they're mentally ill, which they all are, their ability to consent is severely compromised.
Following the line of logic from your last few posts, as long as circumcision remains legal, there's no chance doctors could be held accountable for operating on patients who aren't mentally sound enough to consent. Not to mention circumcision is like a gateway drug for troon surgery; it's a forced mutilation of genitals. Victims grow up knowing something is wrong but society will never give them the correct answer, then they ironically turn to more surgery to fix the so-called Dysphoria (this obviously only applies to AMAB dudes since female genital mutilation is outlawed in America). And I'm not saying every troon trooned out because they were circumcised, I'm saying for some of them, it was a catalyst.
If we don't care about surgical consent on newborn babies, why should we care about consent for an adult over the age of 18, even if they aren't mentally sound?
 
Cis/non-binary men who want a neovagina

This might have been posted here before but here it is just in case. Last summer I stumbled upon a subreddit for men who identified as non-binary, basically blokes who wanted to keep on looking like big burly bears BUT wanted a pussy. Surprisingly there were quite a few post-op men there, but the majority were comments from obviously disturbed/traumatised/fetishistic etc. men who were only at the beginning of their "journey". Now, when I clicked on the profile of these men I saw multiple of them were furries into "cuntboy" art. Some of them also fetishized TIFs or the concept of men with pussies. There are menwho are seemingly gay with internalised homophobia, men who are probably traumatised but want to drill a hole into their crotch instead of going to therapy, men who simply think they are meant to have a vagina etc.

These screenshots are from last July, I haven't been near that subreddit ever since.
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There are varying degrees and states of mental illness. Simply because someone has a mental illness doesn’t mean they cannot be a rational, functioning person incapable of consent.
Sure, but people who hate their genitals so much they want to mangle them shouldn't be considered sane enough to give consent to surgeons who would do it for them. I can't imagine any scenario where it would be acceptable or ethical to allow a man to have his genitals surgically mutilated for aesthetic purposes. Especially if it's to emulate the equipment of the opposite sex.

Also aren't there laws that say one cannot consent to their own abuse? Eg.: if someone consented to being stabbed by knifes, the police would still have to arrest the man who did it even if the victim doesn't want him prosecuted and says he consented to it? Thst's also why people rightfully critisize practicers of extreme BDSM who are basically committing domestic violence even if they use fancy words like consent and aftercare etc.
 
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Whatever anybody thinks one way or the other, I know I prefer the "who shoulders how much blame, patient or doctor" discussion over the "wHaTeVeR aDuLtS dO iN tHe pRiBaCy of tHeiR hOmE!" discussion. As if the situation of Mr. Pornsick Pussyboy ordering up a la carte mutilation and having his dick yeeted- because even though he's a straight dude, he "just wants a slit" like in his favorite furry comics- exists in a cultural vacuum and has no impact on anybody lol
 
Sure, but people who hate their genitals so much they want to mangle them shouldn't be considered sane enough to give consent to surgeons who would do it for them. I can't imagine any scenario where it would be acceptable or ethical to allow a man to have his genitals surgically mutilated for aesthetic purposes. Especially if it's to emulate the equipment of the opposite sex.

Also aren't there laws that say one cannot consent to their own abuse? Eg.: if someone consented to being stabbed by knifes, the police would still have to arrest the man who did it even if the victim doesn't want him prosecuted and says he consented to it? Thst's also why people rightfully critisize practicers of extreme BDSM who are basically committing domestic violence even if they use fancy words like consent and aftercare etc.
you can look at the case of the cannibal and his willing victim, yes he was convicted but cannibalism was not yet a crime listed yet so they arrested him for other things.

can't remember his name. European.

any rate this is why psychological consulting and gatekeeping are important for surgeries, people who truly cannot understand the consequences of the surgery, or who are unable to consent for other reasons, would be weeded out. there would be less detrans going on if those gates were still locked.

living as the preferred gender for a time, going through a psychological testing period to ensure informed consent and ability to heal/care for the wounds, then medical treatment that progresses slowly in a set manner backed by stringent research- that's the ideal way to manage this. add that surgeries should be standardized and studied in legitimate clinical trials, not randomly picked by a plastic surgeon.

edit to add: people who have gone through that kind of process to transition do have my respect. there are older people who did that, even back when there was zero acceptance. It would be easier and more socially legitimate to do this now than it was then
 
You mean having their genitals horribly mangled & made into a crude mockery of what nature created.

Respect for such insanity. :semperfidelis:
no, I mean going through years of psychological evaluation, living as their preferred gender without any surgery for a while (it used to be a year or two, from what I recall), paying their way to any surgical work, and following a medical regimen set out in a standardized manner. yes, I can respect that. I don't care what the point of the surgery is, if someone can manage to go through that long process and properly perform aftercare, I can respect it.

that kind of gatekeeping is fucking NECESSARY. it's not harmful, it's helpful. it requires persistent dedication and an understanding of the reality of what the surgery will do.

we don't have that now, and look at this thread's mess.

edit: I don't give a shit about "nature's creation", surgery in general is one of the greatest human achievements. to see it used unethically is very depressing.
 
In reference to this post I made a few weeks ago... (Xeroform22 ranting about Cetrulo)

I missed an interesting comment chain that was made after I had archived and posted.

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I'd bet good money she's referencing ElephantDick here.

Also, Here's Xeroform admitting to another Cetrulo girl that she was only showing the most flattering pics of her results + other shady stuff.
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Interesting post from r/transgender_surgeries.

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And of course, a realistic comment gets mod deleted.

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The deleted comment is pretty dumb, to be fair. Cells are programmed to make it "heal"? The amhole is literally lined with skin, those cells aren't "programmed" to do much except sweat, die off and shed quickly, and grow hair, which is bad enough.

I do love the OP though. "Hey folx, have you noticed that surgeons constantly botch our procedures and lie to us about the results they can achieve in order to get our business? Doesn't that suck? Anyway, in totally unrelated news, a surgeon has promised me that they can fix my neovagina by stapling a chunk of my colon to the new hole in my crotch. It's going to be great!"

No wonder the American healthcare system loves these idiots.

In reference to this post I made a few weeks ago... (Xeroform22 ranting about Cetrulo)

I missed an interesting comment chain that was made after I had archived and posted.


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I'd bet good money she's referencing ElephantDick here.

Given what she's describing it sounds like there might be a literal herd of Elephant Dicks out there. The dick-spiral caused by the contracting scar tissue on the posterior skin-tube wasn't just a fluke, it was a result of his standard surgical technique of "leaving a wound open and telling the patient that new skin will just grow there somehow." Good stuff!

I did manage to find an immediate post-surgical picture of his work though:

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In reference to this post I made a few weeks ago... (Xeroform22 ranting about Cetrulo)

I missed an interesting comment chain that was made after I had archived and posted.

I'd bet good money she's referencing ElephantDick here.

Also, Here's Xeroform admitting to another Cetrulo girl that she was only showing the most flattering pics of her results + other shady stuff.
For those curious of what Xeroform22's Golden Ratio dick looks like, it's already been documented in this thread:

I laughed at the "but it looks alright from a certain angle" comment.
 
Cis/non-binary men who want a neovagina

This might have been posted here before but here it is just in case. Last summer I stumbled upon a subreddit for men who identified as non-binary, basically blokes who wanted to keep on looking like big burly bears BUT wanted a pussy. Surprisingly there were quite a few post-op men there, but the majority were comments from obviously disturbed/traumatised/fetishistic etc. men who were only at the beginning of their "journey". Now, when I clicked on the profile of these men I saw multiple of them were furries into "cuntboy" art. Some of them also fetishized TIFs or the concept of men with pussies. There are menwho are seemingly gay with internalised homophobia, men who are probably traumatised but want to drill a hole into their crotch instead of going to therapy, men who simply think they are meant to have a vagina etc.

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Imagine being such a coomer for lesbian porn that you wanna turn your cock inside out.
 
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