Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

Who is going to get hit the hardest?

  • North America

  • South America

  • Asia

  • Europe

  • Australia

  • Africa

  • The Middle East

  • Everyone's fucked

  • Nothing will happen


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ETA: mortgage rates have risen to 5.87%, their highest jump since 1987.
Hey hey now, here's a question

If you can refinance a mortgage, can a bank refinance it too? Can they say "your interest rates do not currently reflect the market and we are going to have to adjust them."?
 
Hey hey now, here's a question

If you can refinance a mortgage, can a bank refinance it too? Can they say "your interest rates do not currently reflect the market and we are going to have to adjust them."?
Depends on whether you have a fixed- or adjustable-rate mortgage. The former, IMHO, are much safer for the borrower, since you won't be subject to the Rate Hike of Damocles.

A mortgage can be modified, but the bank or loan servicer needs your permission to modify it, with all the necessary disclosures.
 
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ETA: mortgage rates have risen to 5.87%, their highest jump since 1987.
Interesting. Yahoo finance said the average was 6.3 yesterday. Either way we'll probably be around 7-8% within a few months. I know some people that put their home up for sale recently and they aren't getting offers because of the sharp increase in mortgage rates. Of course they refuse to drop the price.
 
If you have a fixed rate mortgage banks can't just change the rate on you cause it's not a good deal for them anymore. I suppose they could have laws changed that would allow them to do that.
Like I said, they can modify a loan, but they have to have your consent. It would also probably be negotiated through lawyers.

They can't just change the terms of a loan without telling you. That's blatantly illegal.
 

Diesel itself is not going to be the problem, it's fairly easy to make-it's one of the lowest runs of the petroleum refinery stack. The problem, as usual, is the regulations placed on diesel. Those of us who aren't foaming zoomers will remember a time when diesel used to be dirt cheap and smell like shit. This was changed over the last decade as diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) was required to start all diesel engines.

DEF is part urea, which as the name implies, is part of the urine mammals excrete. And again, as usual there's only one country in the world that makes the plurality of DEF components, most importantly urea extracted from pig urine: China. China isn't the best place to be a tourist, or a corporate shill, right now. They're shutting down their pig farms because muh covid, and stopping cargo vessels from coming to port, means that urea from China isn't reaching any truck stops, globally. And just to add to the problem, railways are cutting back shipping, due to shortages, which means DEF can't get to truck stops even if it's available in the warehouse.

All of this can be stopped if countries allow flashing the ECU on some truck fleets (such as trucks owned by farms) to start without checking for DEF, but then the trannies will squeal about climate change, and we'll end up paying $10 for a carrot.

Somewhere to start if anyone wants to dig deeper:

 
People rushing to get a mortgage before rates go even higher. This will be short lived and a lot of people won't be approved at higher rates.
I am sure they were people just waiting for the market to crash and buy in. Now, it is unknown how much it might actually crash. I have heard some interesting arguments about AirBNBs going under, but I am not sure how much they make up of the general housing stock.

I know my own situation and it is the same situation many other people I know are in. We are stuck with current prices and interest rates, so these homes will not come on the market. I think people who bought within the past two or so years with ARMs are probably hating life right now and they may very well be forced to sell/go into foreclosure. I'd have to look into what percentage of homeowners are actually in this situation. ARMs can be OK. I bought my house 7/1 for 2.6% for free (lol, look into Fannie Mae first time homebuyer programs - they paid 10k of closing costs which included all the points to get that rate), but refied for a standard 30 year in 2019 or 2020 for 2.1%. The thing about ARMs is if the interest rate goes down, your interest rate will also go down to the floor amount. I think in the contract, that was .99%. The max they would charge would be (at the time) 7.99%. I am sure that number is much higher now for new contracts. So if you can leverage it, ARMs are great, but timing and luck is a lot of everything with it. Point is, there is zero incentive for anyone holding a mortgage far below the current interest rate to sell, even if they want to. They know they will take a fucking bath in financial sulfuric acid, so it won't be the first choice, especially with rents so high. With that, there isn't a lot of new inventory besides from people wanting to offload their investment properties. With an economic downturn, there will be less qualified buyers. But prices will likely remain sticky as real estate investment firms try to buy what there is in cash and outcompete whatever plebs can actually qualify. Unless they all collapse, but the corruption is so great currently in the system, I doubt that will happen.
 
According to ZeroHedge, the Land of Milk and Hentai is really gonna get tentacled:

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Like I said, they can modify a loan, but they have to have your consent. It would also probably be negotiated through lawyers.

They can't just change the terms of a loan without telling you. That's blatantly illegal.
If my father taught me anything in the world, is might makes right. I remember when he just doubled interest in some money I had loaned from him in high school and said he'd lower it if I could win in a wrestling match against him.
We both knew I would loose since he was a semi-professional and I have connective tissue disease(s). So instead I got a broomstick and beat him until he gave up. Still got beat up pretty bad since neither of us pull punches
You really think that the powers that be don't view the average person as less than a dog? They'll change the rule and just shoot anyone who goes against it. Maybe a decade ago I would believe you, but not now.
I jokingly say this, but someone needs to get like a 55 gal drum, distribute and collect all the piss from weebs and neets who use piss bottles. You'd make a killing making DEF from that before the gov shuts you down for OSHA violations.
 
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