Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

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However, it's screamingly obvious that her rich parents wildly overcompensated by spoiling the absolute shit out of her, and still do, which has led to her being the cow she is.

I actually did not know this and I'm horrified. That's absolute garbage. We wonder why there's a childhood obesity crisis in the United States. I'd venture a guess that it has something to do with the fact that we encourage our infants to develop a taste for corn syrup. I'm not one of those breastfeeding fascists and I think the La Leche League have done real harm to women, but come on. There has to be a better way than this.

Also, just a reminder that there's a serious formula shortage in the United States. In some states, nearly 100% of infant formula, both powdered and ready-to-feed, has been out of stock since spring. People are getting desperate, and are either cobbling together some mixture of stuff for their babies, either with or without guidance from a pediatrician, or feeding whatever formula they can get their hands on. It's sad and scary.

YMMV/Consult your pediatrician/blah-blah-blah but goat milk has been used (by several cultures, I've now learned) as a stopgap infant formula.

 

[DumbDude42]

Lmao, you're at a doctors office. Of course there is going to be a BMI chart there.
That's like someone with bad teeth going to a dentist and tearing down the anti-gum disease poster.

im surprised i havent yet seen some fatty bitch about these "sugary drinks rot your teeth" PSAs

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I actually did not know this and I'm horrified. That's absolute garbage. We wonder why there's a childhood obesity crisis in the United States. I'd venture a guess that it has something to do with the fact that we encourage our infants to develop a taste for corn syrup. I'm not one of those breastfeeding fascists and I think the La Leche League have done real harm to women, but come on. There has to be a better way than this.

Also, just a reminder that there's a serious formula shortage in the United States. In some states, nearly 100% of infant formula, both powdered and ready-to-feed, has been out of stock since spring. People are getting desperate, and are either cobbling together some mixture of stuff for their babies, either with or without guidance from a pediatrician, or feeding whatever formula they can get their hands on. It's sad and scary.



This is almost definitely the case. The United States government heavily subsidizes most agricultural commodities, especially "King Corn", wheat, and soy. In this country, it is political suicide to suggest that farm subsidies are bad, regardless of which party a politician might align with.

...and yes, the USDA subsidizes the crops, then turn around and tell the public to eat less of them. It's difficult to even find nonpartisan information about the issue.

That is pretty sad babies are developing a taste for corn syrup. Who knows how that will affect them as they grow up. Stuff without it will probably taste bad to them.
Have pediatricians been giving advice on making formula at home? My grandma talked about how it was in the mid 60s when my dad was born. She used cloth diapers and they taught her how to DIY formula at the hospital bc formula wasn't common yet.
I can't remember if she said you had to add cod or fish oil but they gave her vitamin d drops to put in it and the milk itself was regular canned milk. Nowadays, people are probably getting no medical guidance and getting shitty "natural" recipes on social media.
Muh raw milk.

 

[NoReturn]

im surprised i havent yet seen some fatty bitch about these "sugary drinks rot your teeth" PSAs

That is pretty sad babies are developing a taste for corn syrup. Who knows how that will affect them as they grow up. Stuff without it will probably taste bad to them.

It does. When you eat a lot of sugar on the regular, your brain downregulates how sweet it is, so non-sweet things end up tasting unnaturally bitter and unpleasant in comparison, because you can no longer properly taste the natural sugar in whatever you're eating.
I know it's a hokey go-to, but our ancestors weren't wandering around eating as much sugar as your average person on the street. It was mainly coming from fruits, veggies and things like honey. Then there's milk, which should be a genuinely pleasant thing to taste if you're drinking good milk and didn't fuck up your sense of taste.
(Got milk on the brain because of the formula thing and because my local store was out of my good milk and I'm mad the milk I have now doesn't taste as good.)

Spoiler: Short video

Spoiler: Longer video if you have time

Spoiler: Reality TV show of a fat lady unable to eat veggies'

Have pediatricians been giving advice on making formula at home? My grandma talked about how it was in the mid 60s when my dad was born. She used cloth diapers and they taught her how to DIY formula at the hospital bc formula wasn't common yet.
I can't remember if she said you had to add cod or fish oil but they gave her vitamin d drops to put in it and the milk itself was regular canned milk. Nowadays, people are probably getting no medical guidance and getting shitty "natural" recipes on social media.
Muh raw milk.

I've heard something similar. The codliver/fish oil is for the DHA, omega 3s, and some other nutrients I don't remember.
Going back to the goat milk thing, it's useful because the macros are more similar to human milk than cow milk, but cow milk was probably easier to get back then if you didn't live in a rural area or a farm.

 

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The last time I was at urgent care, I was absolutely shocked at how big the exam chairs were. They were the width of a loveseat. It made it a lot harder to sit still while the doctor stitched my cut thanks to the sheer width and weird positioning it forced me into. Accommodating deathfats is a two way street. just because smaller people can fit onto fatty size things doesn't mean the enormous amount of extra room is a non-issue.

 

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Buncha word salad to say she likes eating McDonald and doesn’t care about her appearance lol. Something about these artsy “I have a deeper understanding” videos just make me roll my eyes twice as hard. I guess it’s because they are taking essentially self harm and trying to make it pretty? I don’t know.

 

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Buncha word salad to say she likes eating McDonald and doesn’t care about her appearance lol. Something about these artsy “I have a deeper understanding” videos just make me roll my eyes twice as hard. I guess it’s because they are taking essentially self harm and trying to make it pretty? I don’t know.

She sounds like a pretentious painter who makes low quality abstract art while thinking she's fucking de Kooning reincarnate, except she's talking about her flabby body and not brushstrokes. Maybe if she spent more time painting instead of eating Greggs sausage rolls, she wouldn't be a deathfat.

 

[DoorPost101]

Spoiler: Short video

Spoiler: Longer video if you have time

Spoiler: Reality TV show of a fat lady unable to eat veggies'

Cheesy Potato Lady is one of my favorites. Most of the people featured on the Freaky Eater's show have some kind of deep trauma that propelled them to their bizarre food relationships, like prolonged sexual abuse or getting the shit beat out of them as a kid. Cheesy Potato Lady's trauma was that she ate a sandwich at 4 years old that she didn't like. That was it.

Really makes me wonder what sort of thing has to go wrong in someone's personality development where that can be a thing that happens.

 

[EnemyStand]

Cheesy Potato Lady is one of my favorites. Most of the people featured on the Freaky Eater's show have some kind of deep trauma that propelled them to their bizarre food relationships, like prolonged sexual abuse or getting the shit beat out of them as a kid. Cheesy Potato Lady's trauma was that she ate a sandwich at 4 years old that she didn't like. That was it.

Really makes me wonder what sort of thing has to go wrong in someone's personality development where that can be a thing that happens.

Guess I'm gonna powerlevel...

Spoiler: Over 9000

A girl I was pretty serious with a while back was a restricted eater (she was fat too). I blame a lack of a stable father figure and an overly indulgent mother. Anyway, this girl would only eat things like sweets, fried chicken fingers, and plain noodles drowning in butter (she called it a sauce, but it was just a stick of melted butter mixed with milk). Everything had to be plain and bland or sugary or she'd have a major panic attack and her throat would close up. Based on what she said, there was a point where her mom would literally get her chicken nuggets from McDonald's three times a day because she'd starve herself otherwise. People have all sorts of reasons why they eat weird shit or only certain things, but as always it's all in their head and they need to learn how to deal with it, but won't do shit unless they actually want to change.

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

Going back to the goat milk thing, it's useful because the macros are more similar to human milk than cow milk, but cow milk was probably easier to get back then if you didn't live in a rural area or a farm.

We drink cow milk because it's cheaper than goat and sheep milk. Cows produce more milk than other type of cattle and we were able to bred species of cows to be even more productive than their ancestors.

Sheep and goat milk is a lot tastier on average, imo, but also way harder to find and more expensive. I didn't know about the macros of goat milk being more alike to human milk.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Cheesy Potato Lady is one of my favorites. Most of the people featured on the Freaky Eater's show have some kind of deep trauma that propelled them to their bizarre food relationships, like prolonged sexual abuse or getting the shit beat out of them as a kid. Cheesy Potato Lady's trauma was that she ate a sandwich at 4 years old that she didn't like. That was it.

Really makes me wonder what sort of thing has to go wrong in someone's personality development where that can be a thing that happens.

Cheesy Potato Lady stans unite! My favorite part was when they had her lick a slice of tomato as part of her "exposure therapy" and she retched and gagged, bawling hysterically the entire time.

 

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Buncha word salad to say she likes eating McDonald and doesn’t care about her appearance lol. Something about these artsy “I have a deeper understanding” videos just make me roll my eyes twice as hard. I guess it’s because they are taking essentially self harm and trying to make it pretty? I don’t know.

I mean, so do other self-harmers. Think of all those emo tumblr posts and top-surgery photos. I wonder what the psychological reason for that is.

Cheesy Potato Lady is one of my favorites. Most of the people featured on the Freaky Eater's show have some kind of deep trauma that propelled them to their bizarre food relationships, like prolonged sexual abuse or getting the shit beat out of them as a kid. Cheesy Potato Lady's trauma was that she ate a sandwich at 4 years old that she didn't like. That was it.

Really makes me wonder what sort of thing has to go wrong in someone's personality development where that can be a thing that happens.

Guess I'm gonna powerlevel...

Spoiler: Over 9000

A girl I was pretty serious with a while back was a restricted eater (she was fat too). I blame a lack of a stable father figure and an overly indulgent mother. Anyway, this girl would only eat things like sweets, fried chicken fingers, and plain noodles drowning in butter (she called it a sauce, but it was just a stick of melted butter mixed with milk). Everything had to be plain and bland or sugary or she'd have a major panic attack and her throat would close up. Based on what she said, there was a point where her mom would literally get her chicken nuggets from McDonald's three times a day because she'd starve herself otherwise. People have all sorts of reasons why they eat weird shit or only certain things, but as always it's all in their head and they need to learn how to deal with it, but won't do shit unless they actually want to change.

Seconding the "parental neglect/indulgence" (can be two sides of the same coin) thing. Cheesy potatoes was indulged for so long because her family didn't want to put in the work of getting her to eat other food. Decades of eating like that fucked up her sense of taste and ability to cope with new foods, which makes changing as an adult even more difficult.

Cheesy Potato Lady stans unite! My favorite part was when they had her lick a slice of tomato as part of her "exposure therapy" and she retched and gagged, bawling hysterically the entire time.

 

[chickenbutt]

Guess I'm gonna powerlevel...

Spoiler: Over 9000

A girl I was pretty serious with a while back was a restricted eater (she was fat too). I blame a lack of a stable father figure and an overly indulgent mother. Anyway, this girl would only eat things like sweets, fried chicken fingers, and plain noodles drowning in butter (she called it a sauce, but it was just a stick of melted butter mixed with milk). Everything had to be plain and bland or sugary or she'd have a major panic attack and her throat would close up. Based on what she said, there was a point where her mom would literally get her chicken nuggets from McDonald's three times a day because she'd starve herself otherwise. People have all sorts of reasons why they eat weird shit or only certain things, but as always it's all in their head and they need to learn how to deal with it, but won't do shit unless they actually want to change.

You really have to wonder what would have happened if her mom had just said "fine" and let her go hungry until she was desperate enough to eat whatever she was given. It's certainly the approach most of the parents I knew growing up took/would have taken, although admittedly none of us kids were that insistent about it. Most kids have certain foods they hate or phases where they refuse to eat broccoli or whatever, any halfway sane parents I've ever known just either tell you to eat around it or straight-up that you're not getting anything else. Of course your kid will only eat McDonald's nuggets if you cave and get them what they want every time they throw a shitfit over vegetables. I guess in the case of severe autism or sensory issues I could accept its' being a legitimate thing, but the vast majority of the time it seems to just be a result of lazy, overindulgent parenting.

It's crazy when they stick with it into adulthood, though. Good lord.

 

[EnemyStand]

You really have to wonder what would have happened if her mom had just said "fine" and let her go hungry until she was desperate enough to eat whatever she was given. It's certainly the approach most of the parents I knew growing up took/would have taken, although admittedly none of us kids were that insistent about it. Most kids have certain foods they hate or phases where they refuse to eat broccoli or whatever, any halfway sane parents I've ever known just either tell you to eat around it or straight-up that you're not getting anything else. Of course your kid will only eat McDonald's nuggets if you cave and get them what they want every time they throw a shitfit over vegetables. I guess in the case of severe autism or sensory issues I could accept its' being a legitimate thing, but the vast majority of the time it seems to just be a result of lazy, overindulgent parenting.

It's crazy when they stick with it into adulthood, though. Good lord.

From what I gathered, sticking with it into adulthood is the result of not doing what you said above: just not letting the kid eat until they get hungry enough to just eat what they're given. Mothers are particularly susceptible to worrying if the kid's eating enough and are more likely to do stuff like that, but missing one or two meals won't kill the kid. My ex swore up and down she didn't eat for three days and that got her mom to cave, but I have a hard time believing that honestly. Lazy, indulgent parenting leads to their kids becoming lazy and decadent, and this girl was no exception. In the end, a lack of discipline allows bad habits to continue no matter who's doing the parenting.

 

[brooky]

I think the "real sugar" claim is just pointing out that the soda uses cane sugar instead of corn syrup. I'm not sure if you're American, but high fructose corn syrup is absolutely ubiquitous here because of the corn lobby. It's in everything, from bread to yogurt to soda. It really does taste different than cane sugar, and because its main component, fructose, is metabolized differently than sucrose or glucose, it has been implicated as a contributing factor for health conditions including obesity, the metabolic syndrome, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Consequently, some people actively seek out "real sugar" products. Until the last decade or so, it was really difficult to find soda sweetened with real sugar rather than high fructose corn syrup in the United States. If you've heard people raving about "Mexican Coke", this is why.

The "high fructose corn syrup in everything" phenomenon is really horrifying, and I think it's hard for many non-Americans to comprehend that when we say it's in everything, we mean it. For example, I've heard people from other countries say that commonly available brands of sandwich bread in the US taste more like cake because of all the corn syrup.

Cane sugar pop fucking slaps. It tastes completely different. Especially in a glass bottle. On a hot day? Amazing.

Coke had this commercial a while ago showing the change in lifestyle over the decades, implying that the obesity epidemic was caused by things other than soda pop. And they're right, but they left out something crucial-- in the past, Grandpa's Coke had real sugar, not HFCS.

This is a UK commercial, but I'm fairly certain most pops use HFCS in developed western markets. You tend to find real sugar pop in poorer countries where there is easier access to sugar cane. Real sugar pop tends to be a limited time item, at least in my experience in Canada.

Canada uses real sugar in most products bc of how gov subsidies work and we still have an obesity crisis. Maybe the corn syrup issue is why the US obesity crisis is a bit worse?

Canada still uses HFCS in a ton of stuff. And even with real sugar, we still have too-sweet bread, etc. Italian immigrants to Canada in the early and mid 20th Century called non-Italian white Canadians the derogatory term "mangiacake" which means cake-eater, because they found the bread to be intolerably sweet, and the people who ate it regularly to have bad taste.

Canada's obesity crisis isn't that much better than the US's to be honest. I'd guess our slight edge has more to do with things like access to preventative health care, fewer people living in dire poverty, and more walkable communities (Even though Canada has a fraction of America's population, a much higher proportion of us live in cities.) We're still fat as hell, though. Chantal lives here for God's sake.

 

[NoReturn]

You really have to wonder what would have happened if her mom had just said "fine" and let her go hungry until she was desperate enough to eat whatever she was given. It's certainly the approach most of the parents I knew growing up took/would have taken, although admittedly none of us kids were that insistent about it. Most kids have certain foods they hate or phases where they refuse to eat broccoli or whatever, any halfway sane parents I've ever known just either tell you to eat around it or straight-up that you're not getting anything else. Of course your kid will only eat McDonald's nuggets if you cave and get them what they want every time they throw a shitfit over vegetables. I guess in the case of severe autism or sensory issues I could accept its' being a legitimate thing, but the vast majority of the time it seems to just be a result of lazy, overindulgent parenting.

It's crazy when they stick with it into adulthood, though. Good lord.

That's part of why I see this behavior as a form of neglect, even if the parents themselves don't think it is. If you don't train your children to be willing to try new things, or you coddle them in ways that don't allow them chances to safely experiment and try new things, it can leave them like Kelly the tater-eater. The adult children of these parents don't even think to try new things because they have no internal motivation to do so at best, and an active fear/aversion at worst.

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Poverty came up a little bit ago in the GlitterandLazers thread, but some of the most adventurous eaters I've known are kids who grew up in poverty but who also had parents who encouraged them to try new things. Some variations I've seen off the top of my head:

• The one who will eat anything so long as its sealed, even if it came out of the trash
• The one who spends a lot of her paycheck as an adult eating fancy food because she can "afford it now"
• The one who travels to other countries and will eat anything given to him

Cane sugar pop fucking slaps. It tastes completely different. Especially in a glass bottle. On a hot day? Amazing.

Coke had this commercial a while ago showing the change in lifestyle over the decades, implying that the obesity epidemic was caused by things other than soda pop. And they're right, but they left out something crucial-- in the past, Grandpa's Coke had real sugar, not HFCS.

America had this horrifying thing a while back:

 

[Dnein]

Really makes me wonder what sort of thing has to go wrong in someone's personality development where that can be a thing that happens.

I do think there's two separate issues being discussed here. AFRID is not the same as addiction for sweets or addiction to sugar (blaming HFCS is kind of funny, actually). Many people with AFRID are actually underweight, and issues with food do often center around aroma and texture. It's one of those broad categories that are probably separate neurological and psychological issues with the same label, but in scenarios like ASD sensory adaptation doesn't take place (you can force the same taste and the brain will never adjust). There are also literal genetically traceable traits that increase sensitivity to bitter tastes in food, like the infamous cilantro trait.

The problem comes in when the person overindulges or doesn't adapt. Yeah, that's where the lazy parenting comes in too. If you cannot tolerate tomatoes, fine, you find another means of adding those nutrients and explore ways to incorporate balance into the diet. With a kid, it's pointless to force those specific foods (and will result in cleaning endless vomit) but you find and explore other options. Parents that just settle for chucking McDs at them is just plain neglect. I think many of these restrictive fat people are simply addicts instead, or comorbid in the potato lady's case. She shows signs of legit AFRID, but has compensated by substituting addiction.

Consider the drug addict that stops eating and only seeks that next dose, food addiction is the same way. They stop caring about anything that doesn't scratch that sugar or fat itch, and don't eat for hunger at all anymore. Why bother with other food categories when eating is now uncoupled from nutrition or hunger signals. That ain't AFRID.

Most recent science (as far as I'm aware) had shown that the HFCS panic is pretty misplaced. It doesn't do much different than sugar to the brain and body, the problem is that people underestimate the effects of sugar. "Real sugar" is just as addictive and metabolically disrupting. It's amazing how many studies about HFCS omit "real sugar" groups. Well duh, if you stuff a rodent full of either you're going to have addiction and metabolic dysfunction...

That being said, sugar is literally a part of milk/breast milk... of course it's in formula.

 

[NoReturn]

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Most recent science (as far as I'm aware) had shown that the HFCS panic is pretty misplaced. It doesn't do much different than sugar to the brain and body, the problem is that people underestimate the effects of sugar. "Real sugar" is just as addictive and metabolically disrupting. It's amazing how many studies about HFCS omit "real sugar" groups. Well duh, if you stuff a rodent full of either you're going to have addiction and metabolic dysfunction...

That being said, sugar is literally a part of milk/breast milk... of course it's in formula.

It has to do with the type of sugar.

 

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Mods please forgive double-post, but this is double-post-gross:

 

[PuffyGroundCloud]

Lizzo is turning into Captain Ahab, searching for Chris's dick