Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Hence my disgust.
Here I thought Boba repainted Slave I to match his armor.
Furloni dashed that to pieces.
Once again, furries ruin everything.
And I just remembered the Slave I isn't the only thing they gave him. They now not only have him be old friends with Han and Chewbacca but they even had this same guy take ownership of the Falcon now as part of their Galaxy's Edge sequel era. They have it so Chewbacca (who Hondo is now best friends with along with Han) just gives him the Falcon as part of some crappy delivery service and now even uses it as his company logo while constantly wrecking the ship.
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Your best friend and partner of +30 years dies on you and the first thing you do is let some random girl take control of it and then follow it up by having the same girl just give it to some rando pirate to use it and wreck it for a gay gas delivery service. So much for all that hollow "we're home Chewie" crap.
 
Its like if they had made Dash Rendar the main protagonist or co-star of the New Jedi Order. He already had his time in the sun with Shadows of the Empire, now it was time for Han's kids to shine.

I don't think including Dash Rendar would have made those particular books any worse, to be fair. No one was shining in that series.
 
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It's OK to hate actors if they hate you too. Social media has destroyed the Hollywood star and Mark Hamill is the best example when it comes to our favorite space opera. I've felt sorry for him in the past but I slowly realized he's a nutjob as I started to "know" the man. He openly hates half the country, lashed out at fans, little children and wanted to abort his own granddaughter in 2016. Political sperging coming up but I'd love to tell Hamill that a majority of the people who tore into Disney and Lucasfilm when it dropped Luke Skywalker like a hot potato lean right while his SJW pals are A-OK with the iconic character's humiliation and destruction. Luke is barely even in Kenobi and I fully expect him to lick the Lars homestead's windows, piss his pants and pick his nose when he's shown again.
Going by Mark Hamill's obnoxious twitter page he is a complete faggot but you gotta give it to him, he did a great job in TLJ (it's NOT a good movie, he just gave a very good performance). Imagine absolutely hatting everything about a movie you're working on and vehemently disagreeing with your director about everything, but still putting in the performance he did. He could have phoned it in like Harrison Ford in TFA, but he didn't. He played Jake Skywalker to the best of his ability and I can respect that. If he were in any other movie playing actually getting to play Luke, people would have lost their minds.

If TFA weren't a 2 hour movie trailer with half a plot I can imagine Mark being in it and doing a great job as Luke. He was so excited to come back as the character, but only got a 5 minute cameo because JJ Abrams was too much of a pussy to put Luke in the film. By TROS you can tell he stopped caring.
They're funny for their comedy sketches and back and forths but taking them as the sole authority on Star Wars is something I'll never understand and even their behind the scenes knowledge is based on personal biases and Hollywood mags, as noted by their claims that the editing alone saved SW and that it was a badly directed film which even Marcia Lucas herself has denied by still giving credit to George (and bashing KK while doing it).
@Zaryiu2 The clip here alone tells you enough about how they genuinely feel about the original films and how uninformed they are about their production, like just blown condescension.

They're diehard turbo trekkies at heart but they have always looked down on SW for some reason and believe Star Wars has no right to be engaging, well written or complex. Just mindless and repetitive schlock as seen with their TFA review or Evans' dumb comments regarding the setting, and its clear they only get their info from wookieepedo as seen with that Vader armor video they made. Kenobi only seems to get a pass for them simply because it validates their opinions on SW.

Their reviews can be entertaining but I really wish people stopped treating these two Milwaukee comedians as the sole voices and authority on a 50 year old franchise.

"B-But you don't understand!"
The OT is one of the most well documented film productions in the existence of film but the fans are so completely ignorant of how it came together it's astounding. There are dozens of books and documentaries about how they made the damn things but most people just lazily spout overly biased opinions from other people and dumbass rumors as fact. The fact that so many people think George accidently stumbled into ANH being a success (instead of carefully crafting the most entertaining crowd pleasing movie he could) or that his wife (who they don't know the name of) "saved" the movie with her editing (which is not how fucking editing works) which genuinely pisses me off or that he had nothing to do with the other movies in the OT being good. These opinions get parroted all the time but nobody seems to give a shit. Like @Mississippi Motorboater said, they hate Lucas so much they've crafted a ridiculous narrative about how the movies were made out of spite because they hate the prequels and felt betrayed by him.
I watched the entire video. Yes they like it, Jay seems to be the least positive but still over all likes it. They repeatedly make fun of cheap and dumb segments, but they appreciate lame incompetent Kenobi(they state he's an awful character and only like Ewan McGregor), they are fine with things looking cheap cause it's more OT, they like seeing McGregor killing Stormtroopers that are there instead of CGI Clonetroopers cause that is PT. The terribly choreography is good cause PT choreography is over done. Also it's not as terrible as Picard, and they aren't invested in Star Wars anymore, so they can enjoy it. They compared it to Mando season 1 in terms of quality.
So this confirms my suspicions that RLM peaked with the Star Wars sequels. After TROS came out I haven't been bothered to watch them anymore. Sure they can still be funny sometimes (Best of the Worst) but I 'm not invested enough in the friend simulator anymore to watch it.
Who actually treats them as the sole arbiters of SW though?
I hate to say this, but Reddit. No, seriously.
too many fans especially on reddit and the farms treat them as an authority on SW or treat their opinions as absolute and that SW should be the way they say it is.
Can confirm. Sometimes when I get bored at work I go on r/movies (yes I'm retarded) and any time the prequels are brought up (when it's not just to shit on them and jerk off the sequels) RLM and the reviews are too. It's gospel to them. They're like Jehovah's Witnesses going door to door spreading the word of the Plinkett reviews to other redditors as if everyone on the fucking internet hasn't seen them already.
Apparently a new Disney+ show is being made but it wasn't announced anywhere outside of a little showcase on SW.com.
Talk about an uneventful reveal. Yet news articles are just calling it "secretive".


Forgive my lack of optimism but it convinces me even more than ever that they're trying to force the whole Star Wars Babies/Star Wars Kidz Club as the new direction for the franchise but with "mature" Filoni video game writing. Its also another post-ROTJ story because they either want to keep forcing a cinematic universe where all the main shows take place around the same period so they can have a forced MCU-style crossover or they're too cheap and lazy to build new sets so they want to recycle assets from the Mandalorian and Book of Bob.

Another codename for the show is "Grammar Rodeo" that makes me think they'll be doing another western on... Tatooine.
Actually this was brought up at Celebration a few weeks ago, I just didn't post about it here. It's by the guy who directed the MCU Spider-Man movies, John Watts.
You'd be surprised.
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And while imperial sympathizers have always existed, making the "mole" a literal mole is so obnoxiously on the nose I can't even take it seriously, that along with the quality of this dumpsterfire and the absolutely disingenuous state of Lucasfilm PR.
I really wish this scene with Luke and Biggs was kept in the movie. It helps explain a lot of details about the Empire which would have been nice to know, but at the same time it would have screwed up the pacing and it wasn't too important to keep when the movie came out.
 
So you saying that there isn't any profound aliens in the sequel trilogies that what about Orange Yoda Lady?

Her only purpose was just giving Rey Anakin/Luke's lightsaber (by the way Disney, when are we going to get that origin story of how she obtained said lightsaber or is that still going to be a story for another time?) that's pretty much her character.

Other than her wanting to ride hairy Wookie dick (and gave chewy that precipitation medal because fan service) and fighting with unions for God knows what, she is done fuck all in the anti-trilogy.
 
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So you saying that there isn't any profound aliens in the sequel trilogies that what about Orange Yoda Lady?

Her only purpose was just giving Rey Anakin/Luke's lightsaber (by the way Disney, when are we going to get that origin story of how she obtained said lightsaber or is that still going to be a story for another time?) that's pretty much her character.

Other than her wanting to ride hairy Wookie dick (and gave chewy has precipitation medal because fan service) and fighting with unions for God knows what, she is done fuck all in the anti-trilogy.
She's also practically absent in TLJ outside of a five second hologram and her most notable role in the last one was giving Chewbacca a medal in the most pointlessly meta and self-referential scene imaginable.

Hard to believe they had Chewie cheat on his wife with a 1,000 year orange midget who they had to go out of their way to point out is even older than Yoda just to show how much more important and wiser she is. They're even trying to do the same "her species is unknown and a complete mystery" thing they did with Yoda as if she wasn't enough of a cheap knockoff. She's also a legendary pirate queen ruler of the galaxy, so she's also knocking off Xim the Despot to boot.


@Sneed F91 Reply isn't working for your post, but yeah. And I really did love that deleted scene with Biggs and Luke but sadly it would've been too boring for the average movie goer and already stretched the time longer than it needed, but the scene carries not just so much weight for the rebellion but for Luke's character and just how much of an influence Biggs was on his life. I especially love the unabridged radio drama adaptation of the film which goes into even further detail on Biggs and Luke's past and the infamous Needle. A shame Disney instead decided to squander Biggs by making him your average soy chugger who goes porking around with Porkin on the gayest vacation planet around.
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It probably doesn't help that the Empire side of Star Wars does better in terms of merch and Disney itself is also an evil empire.

It further doesn't help that outside of Ahsoka, there are not many "interesting" alien characters in the rebels in the Disney era and there is more effort to make cool alien characters that support the evil government. Like the writing subjectively is a different story, but there is more effort put into an alien that works for the empire than an alien that supports the rebels.
It's the Mary Sue paradox. Since Mary Sue's always have to be perfect and cannot be flawed, the secondary characters in her story end up being far more interesting.

In this case, since the Rebels have to be perfect and good (ESPECIALLY if any of them are a minority) then they all end up being bland and uninteresting. Conversely if you have someone in the Empire (even a minority) then you can give those characters flaws and personalities which ends up sticking more in the minds of the audience.
 
And I just remembered the Slave I isn't the only thing they gave him. They now not only have him be old friends with Han and Chewbacca but they even had this same guy take ownership of the Falcon now as part of their Galaxy's Edge sequel era. They have it so Chewbacca (who Hondo is now best friends with along with Han) just gives him the Falcon as part of some crappy delivery service and now even uses it as his company logo while constantly wrecking the ship.
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Your best friend and partner of +30 years dies on you and the first thing you do is let some random girl take control of it and then follow it up by having the same girl just give it to some rando pirate to use it and wreck it for a gay gas delivery service. So much for all that hollow "we're home Chewie" crap.
Imagine telling a Star Wars fan in 2005 of all the shit that was just around the corner.
They wouldn't believe it, some would even go as far as saying a Disney purchase "would be a good thing."
Everything about the franchise I knew then has been erased and replaced.
Truly, this is the worst timeline.
 
So you saying that there isn't any profound aliens in the sequel trilogies that what about Orange Yoda Lady?

Her only purpose was just giving Rey Anakin/Luke's lightsaber (by the way Disney, when are we going to get that origin story of how she obtained said lightsaber or is that still going to be a story for another time?) that's pretty much her character.

Other than her wanting to ride hairy Wookie dick (and gave chewy has precipitation medal because fan service) and fighting with unions for God knows what, she is done fuck all in the anti-trilogy.
Maz Kanata is such an obnoxious bitch. Member Yoda? Well here's my OC who's way better and older and wiser and quirkier than Yoda and FEMALE. She's not even the female Yoda because she doesn't teach Rey anything she really needs to know other than that the force is real. They only talk once in the whole trilogy. "A good question for another time" is like the warmup act for "Somehow Palpatine returned" but everyone was fine with one but not the other for some reason.

My favorite thing about her is how hard they were jerking "the muh real sets practical effects" bullshit for TFA but both her and Snoke were CGI because they didn't bother figuring out their character designs until the very last minute. That's something you can't actually do with practical effects, where you have to plan stuff like that out carefully before filming if you want it to look good. Nobody back then acknowledged the contradiction.

They ended up explaining where she got the lightsaber from years after the fact: someone from Bespin gave it to her. That's it.
It's the Mary Sue paradox. Since Mary Sue's always have to be perfect and cannot be flawed, the secondary characters in her story end up being far more interesting.
That makes sense but Rey is garbage and so are the rest of the sequel characters.
 
I really wish this scene with Luke and Biggs was kept in the movie. It helps explain a lot of details about the Empire which would have been nice to know, but at the same time it would have screwed up the pacing and it wasn't too important to keep when the movie came out.
I wish the Tosche Station scenes were kept in for the Special Edition to at least give more weight to the friendship between Biggs & Luke, thus making Biggs' demise more of a tragedy in the eyes of the audience.
At least Lucas put the hangar scene back in.
 
They only talk once in the whole trilogy. "A good question for another time" is like the warmup act for "Somehow Palpatine returned" but everyone was fine with one but not the other for some reason.
Because one is in Chapter 1 while the other is in chapter 99. You can promise someone something at the start of a story because they see you have time to answer. At the end of the tale it's quite obvious you ain't answering shit.

That makes sense but Rey is garbage and so are the rest of the sequel characters.
1) you're reading a general story rule into the sequels.

2) all the sequel characters are minorities so they still have the issue. Portray them as imperfect in any way and the twitter mobs will roast you alive.

I wish the Tosche Station scenes were kept in for the Special Edition to at least give more weight to the friendship between Biggs & Luke, thus making Biggs' demise more of a tragedy in the eyes of the audience.
At least Lucas put the hangar scene back in.
Biggs should have had his own movie before Solo.

Hell Rogue One should have been Biggs' story.
 
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They're very inconsistent on the Empire's moral code now.

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This bullshit reminds me of how they added "homophobia" to the list of "wrongs" done by the Fire Lord in Avatar. The Fire Nation genociding the Tibet- I mean Air Nomads? Oof, that's bad. Making fags stay in the closet? HOW DARE HE!

The "bad guys" can never be just people that abuse power for their own ends or have some twisted world view. They ALWAYS have to be "muh Nazis" at the end of the day and (((they))) add more bullshit like racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia to the "bad guy" list. How long until we have space Nazis putting people in space jail for dating 10 yo? "They hate us for our love" lol.

And the people the make this shit and eat it up all think they are so smart and mature lol. When I was a kid, we had fun making up stories from the Empire's side. I wouldn't be shocked if that gets you banned from official forums soon.
But the Empire ended up looking more diverse and inclusive than the Rebels to the point where Disney is making them look like the good guys now by even showing more civilians and aliens supporting them and actively snitching for them, especially in their new cartoons.
BASED?!
And the Empire under Disney has more gay and trans characters than the Rebels by now. Even the entirety of the Death Star is implied to be one giant gay club. And this wasn't a sudden switch since even in Chucky's book where he has the imperial characters talk about how homophobic the Empire is, the Paul S. Kemp novel released that same year had a female imperial be married to a fellow female officer. Only place where humanocentrism is even openly addressed is in the first Disney Thrawn book and comic and its never addressed again after that. Even the inquisitorium and intelligence bureau is all aliens now.

Even Disney's Resistance cartoon talks about how the Empire gave people jobs and how planets were ruined because of their fall and when it comes time for the writers to try and "disprove" it to one of the main characters, the best they can do is have the imp officer act more bossy. That and the fact that Disney had Palpatine win in the end just cements a really weird narrative they got going where they want to portray the empire as evil but they also want to make them inclusive, sympathetic and marketable.
It is poetic that the same shitlibs that call the West "fascist" and that shit turn a blind eye to the fact that if they did their bullshit in any other part of the world they'd be kicked out, put in jail, killed, or worse. The same countries that have police snipers defend Drag Queen Story Hour are "oppressing queer folk". It only makes sense they are so crazy they say the Empire is all Nazis but also super gay. It also shows what sexual degenerates they at their core. They can't right a fucking Star Wars story without gay shit being put in it.
 
This bullshit reminds me of how they added "homophobia" to the list of "wrongs" done by the Fire Lord in Avatar. The Fire Nation genociding the Tibet- I mean Air Nomads? Oof, that's bad. Making fags stay in the closet? HOW DARE HE!

The "bad guys" can never be just people that abuse power for their own ends or have some twisted world view. They ALWAYS have to be "muh Nazis" at the end of the day and (((they))) add more bullshit like racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia to the "bad guy" list. How long until we have space Nazis putting people in space jail for dating 10 yo? "They hate us for our love" lol.

And the people the make this shit and eat it up all think they are so smart and mature lol. When I was a kid, we had fun making up stories from the Empire's side. I wouldn't be shocked if that gets you banned from official forums soon.

BASED?!

It is poetic that the same shitlibs that call the West "fascist" and that shit turn a blind eye to the fact that if they did their bullshit in any other part of the world they'd be kicked out, put in jail, killed, or worse. The same countries that have police snipers defend Drag Queen Story Hour are "oppressing queer folk". It only makes sense they are so crazy they say the Empire is all Nazis but also super gay. It also shows what sexual degenerates they at their core. They can't right a fucking Star Wars story without gay shit being put in it.
You aren't wrong but posts like this really make me wish I could pass out politisperg stickers here.
 
Because one is in Chapter 1 while the other is in chapter 99.
Technically TFA called itself "Episode 7" even if it functioned more like a soft reboot/remake of Star Wars. It's 7/9ths into the story.
You can promise someone something at the start of a story because they see you have time to answer.
And look how well that turned out lol
The "bad guys" can never be just people that abuse power for their own ends or have some twisted world view. They ALWAYS have to be "muh Nazis" at the end of the day and (((they))) add more bullshit like racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia to the "bad guy" list.
Well it's either that or making them "sympathetic" which is really getting old.
 
Technically TFA called itself "Episode 7" even if it functioned more like a soft reboot/remake of Star Wars. It's 7/9ths into the story.
Dude, stop being autistic and grasp what metaphors are.

And look how well that turned out lol
Yeah, people have been making jokes about mystery box Abrams on this thread since before you joined the farms.
 
Well it's either that or making them "sympathetic" which is really getting old.
It's getting old because their way of making them "sympathetic" is to give them some Twilight level sad/emo backstory or they somehow didn't know the side they were on is evil until they see some cartoonishly evil shit happen. And I don't think Disney Wars has done a sympathetic trooper or anything like that. Only some Sith I think.
 
I also have a question to the EU fans because I've only read a couple of novels back in the day. Was there any way to shoehorn the old ass actors into an EU movie or is the timeline too tight?
nope, the furthest the timeline goes is maybe20-25 years after the movies, and the best part isn't really there. its the stuff from almost right after ROTJ
Jake Lloyd is now schizophrenic from the aftermath of TPM. Ahmed Best fared better, but what is he even in now? His “breakout role” has been squandered.
To be fair, Best got the same shaft that Prowse did, people believed that because it was CGI he didnt really count as Jar Jar's actor. he was a glorified stand in.

and as mcfarlene noted in blue harvest. outside of harrison ford no one in these films had a better career after being a part of them. beyond that his contemporaries in the cgi stand in roles aren't doing much better overall.
Here's one people don't talk that much about anymore
Star Wars Trilogy Arcade
They had this at Chuck E Cheese when I was growing up and I thought it was the tightest shit ever
having to hit those 4 spots in the end of the death star 2 run was bullshit. imagine any game having such a hard win condition.
I thought Mike had a problem with the actual choreography being too flashy and complicated. They all had a character reason for happening in the story though. Even if the characters in the sequels were good the actual fights would still suck. It's like drunk people hitting each other with baseball bats.
, even if it was when the jedi were in decline their ability and teachings would mean they would be better than when everyone is out of shape and hasn't been able to spar with anyone for 2 decades. its like seeing old pros play when they're in their 60s or just martal arts tournaments after the rise of MMA.

Fun game, I remember having fun with it back when the Fuddruckers of my local town was still around.
That person playing really makes it seem effortless. I remember the lose joystick to it made certain moments like the Darth Vader boss fight difficult.

Does anyone remember Star Wars Racer Arcade?
its crazy playing it in hindsight, because george made up the entire thing, its not a re-skin of a different game or a real life sport. and yet the controls work. its rather easy to get the hang of, anakin also had the worst controls of all the other podracers, only one that really had to balance his hands.
 
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Biggs should have had his own movie before Solo.

Hell Rogue One should have been Biggs' story.
Biggs' story certainly had meat on the bone.
A young man from a desert planet joins the Imperial Navy to see the stars, only to be disillusioned by witnessing the Empire's cruelty first hand. Darklighter eventually can't continue serving a cause he knows is morally wrong and rather losing his soul, he defects to the Rebel Alliance to fight back against the injustices he knows too well. Flashfoward, Darklighter briefly returns home and spends time with his friends, knowing that perhaps he will never see them again. Darklighter rendezvous with the Rebels on Yavin IV and is surprised to be reunited with his friend, Luke Skywalker. Unfortunately, Biggs Darklighter dies in the ensuing assault on the Death Star, far from the Twin Sunsets of Tatooine. But, his memory is not forgotten by those who knew him and the Alliance honors him by counting him among the martyrs who died for freedom in the galaxy.
That's a pretty good summary, but there's certainly some gaps to fill that could be expanded upon (how he escaped from Imperial forces, joining the Rebel Alliance, his early contributions to the Rebel cause, etc). Nothing too hard.
 
Dude, stop being autistic
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To quote Luke in ESB, "That's impossible".
And I don't think Disney Wars has done a sympathetic trooper or anything like that.
I guess Finn counts and maybe that black chick Jannah from Plan IX too. They failed to make them sympathetic but that's what they were going for. They even have the sad/emo backstory of being kidnapped as children for no reason. Too bad it didn't matter or even amount to anything. In fact it make the First Order make less sense.
Biggs' story certainly had meat on the bone.
Young man from desert planet joins the Imperial Navy to see the stars, only to be disillusioned by witnessing the Empire's cruelty first hand. Darklighter eventually can't continue serving a cause he knows is morally wrong and rather losing his soul, he defects to the Rebel Alliance to fight back against the injustices he knows too well. Flashfoward, Darklighter briefly returns home and spends time with his friends, knowing that perhaps he will never see them again. Darklighter rendezvous with the Rebels on Yavin IV and is surprised to be reunited with his friend, Luke Skywalker. Unfortunately, Biggs Darklighter dies in the ensuing assault on the Death Star, far from the Twin Sunsets of Tatooine. But, his memory is not forgotten by those who knew him and the Alliance honors him by counting him among the martyrs who died for freedom in the galaxy.
That's a pretty good summary, but there's certainly some gaps to fill that could be expanded upon (how he escaped from Imperial forces, joining the Rebel Alliance, his early contributions to the Rebel cause, etc). Nothing too hard.
Stop it. I'm getting depressed about what could have been, but I'm thankful Kennedyfilm has no idea who Biggs is and he died in ANH so they can't ruin him. He was so based.
 
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Biggs' story certainly had meat on the bone.
Young man from desert planet joins the Imperial Navy to see the stars, only to be disillusioned by witnessing the Empire's cruelty first hand. Darklighter eventually can't continue serving a cause he knows is morally wrong and rather losing his soul, he defects to the Rebel Alliance to fight back against the injustices he knows too well. Flashfoward, Darklighter briefly returns home and spends time with his friends, knowing that perhaps he will never see them again. Darklighter rendezvous with the Rebels on Yavin IV and is surprised to be reunited with his friend, Luke Skywalker. Unfortunately, Biggs Darklighter dies in the ensuing assault on the Death Star, far from the Twin Sunsets of Tatooine. But, his memory is not forgotten by those who knew him and the Alliance honors him by counting him among the martyrs who died for freedom in the galaxy.
That's a pretty good summary, but there's certainly some gaps to fill that could be expanded upon (how he escaped from Imperial forces, joining the Rebel Alliance, his early contributions to the Rebel cause, etc). Nothing too hard.
His story was so epic and well done it was one of the ones chosen by dark horse for the 30th anniversary.
 
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