Is it just me, or is America going through a Weimar phase?

[jorgoth]

So in Weimar Germany you had

• Hyperinflation
• A massive fracture in the left between the Center Left and the Far Left, with Antifa openly (physically) attacking center left politicians and Parliament allying with the Nazis because of it.
• Insane libertinism, with prostitution becoming really common.

In Weimar America you have

• Pretty bad but seemingly controllable Inflation
  • This could all change if The People's Republic of China cuts off supplies.
  • Another factor that could cause hyperinflation would be the end of the Petrodollar
    • Arguably this is already happening with The People's Republic of China buying oil from the Russians in Chinese Yuan and apparently being in talks to do the same with Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates.
    • Obviously the end of the Petrodollar would mean no more supplies from anybody else, ever.
• Increasing factionalization between the Far Left and Center Left, but not at the level of large scale violence towards the Center Left (yet).
  • Antifa already did vandalize the Portland Democratic National Committee hq.
  • Bill Maher doesn't have the highest ratings, sure, but out of all the late night hosts probably has the strongest ties to the DNC leadership. And he seems to like criticizing the far left within his own party a lot more than Trumpsters, I suspect because the woketards are the enemy within the gates.
• Onlyfans rising to the top because of economic problems, but with declining sex amongst young people.
• And, of course, a growing and largely uncontrolled right wing backlash. Yes, there is a January 6 committee, but I severely doubt there will be more than 5 people who get anything more than a slap on the wrist.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Hyperinflation is 50% per month you fucking retard

 

[stupid orc]

just you

 

[jorgoth]

Hyperinflation is 50% per month you fucking retard

We're not at that point. Yet. What if the Petrodollar becomes the Petro-Yuan?

 

[Certified_Autist]

It's not just you drawing that comparison, poltards have been referencing Weimar Republic forever and been calling America "Weimerica" since the late 2010s at least.

Used to think that was a tad hyperbolic but lately I can see where they are coming from.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Wiemar Germany had the bitter taste of not only the defeat of the first world war but Germany losing it's status as a growing world power and it's own independent sphere and becoming more dependent on America.
Germany was also forced to give up lands to the poles, Belgians, french, and Danes. As well as being denied a Anschluss with Austria in 1919.
In spite of Afghanistan, America still hasn't received a military loss comparable to loosing the first world war.
Don't forget that Troons were invented in the Wiemar republic while in America is now experiencing the normalization of Troon ideology.

 

[Mega Man II Intro - GB]

Germany was also forced to give up lands

The tens of millions of immigrants haven't officially claimed any lands yet, but they're there and it's a big problem.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

We're not at that point. Yet. What if the Petrodollar becomes the Petro-Yuan?

The Problem With the Petroyuan​

To evaluate the advantages for an oil exporter of getting paid in U.S. dollars, consider periodic claims over the past decade that the petrodollar would soon face a challenge from the petroyuan: oil exports denominated and paid for with Chinese currency.


All buyers of exported oil hold or can easily access U.S. dollars, while only China and mostly Chinese companies hold the Chinese national currency, called the yuan or renminbi. Unlike the U.S. dollar, the renminbi is not a freely convertible currency; its exchange rate against other currencies including the U.S. dollar continues to be managed by China's central bank.78




U.S. dollars from crude exports can be easily invested worldwide, including in the $13.4 trillion eurodollar market for short-term dollar denominated deposits in European banks.9 Crude export proceeds in Chinese currency cannot be invested outside China as widely as USD, and can only be invested inside China at the discretion of the Chinese government. Though Chinese capital markets have grown fast, they remain much smaller and less liquid than U.S. capital markets.10


To sum up, claims that the U.S. dollar's primacy rest on its status as the settlement currency for oil exports have it backwards: the dollar's status as the global reserve currency is what keeps it indispensable to oil exporters. The dollar was the established global store of value decades before non-U.S. crude oil exporters rose to prominence.

It's not just you drawing that comparison, poltards have been referencing Weimar Republic forever and been calling America "Weimerica" since the late 2010s at least.

Used to think that was a tad hyperbolic but lately I can see where they are coming from.

Oh right, the board that thinks a person saying a random set of dates is predicting future fake terror attacks, or commenting on pics of dead children in the last school shooting as "Sexy". Happy murder rape day isn't coming anytime soon bro.

 

[Certified_Autist]

The tens of millions of immigrants haven't officially claimed any lands yet, but they're there and it's a big problem.

Its an open secret that groups like La Raza encourage Hispanic migration into the Southwest as a "reconquista" of territories taken in the 1836 and 1848 wars.

Whether thats purely cultural, or will eventually become a political reconquest, not sure. Can see it going either way,

Oh right, the board that thinks a person saying a random set of dates is predicting future fake terror attacks, or commenting on pics of dead children in the last school shooting as "Sexy". Happy murder rape day isn't coming anytime soon bro.

Ironic coming from you. You'd think a Kiwifarms user, of all people, would understand that a few retards don't define an entire online community

 

[Absolutego]

Things that line up, with some stretching:
-Bad, inflationary economy
-Political street violence being normalized
-Aging losers of the biggest generation controlling the government
-General degeneracy in urban centers

Things that massively differentiate the two:
-Inflation, possibly stagflation in the USA, not hyperinflation. Bread currently costs about $2.50 a loaf nationally. It'd have to be north of $1000 by this fall to even remotely match Weimar Germany's disaster
-Political street violence is mostly slapfighting by autistic noodle-arms or fatasses, not veteran soldiers beating each other up
-No difference here, I suppose
-The degeneracy being motivated by youths literally prostituting themselves to survive hasn't really hit a head yet in America. I doubt it ultimately will.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Its an open secret that groups like La Raza encourage Hispanic migration into the Southwest as a "reconquista" of territories taken in the 1836 and 1848 wars.

Whether thats purely cultural, or will eventually become a political reconquest, not sure. Can see it going either way,

Or maybe the fact the United States is so much economically better off than Mexico in every aspect of life, as well as crime, that life in the United States is a million times more appealing than continued suffering in Mexico, so getting in by any means, even if it's risking your life, is a deal too good for almost everyone.

 

[Open Window Maniac]

I can see some parallels and things are really bad right now, but I don't think it's going to end like Weimar. Part of the reason the Weimar Republic failed was because Germany did not have the same tradition of self-government the USA does. The Germans had a strong central authority figure with a lot of power in the Kaiser and they wanted that familiar sense back. The system of government that Weimar had let it be easily exploited in a way someone could amass a massive amount of power they way Hitler did. America has very strong checks and balances written in the Constitution to prevent power framing being amassed in that way. Plus, most Americans just don't have that craving for a strong authority figure like the early 20th century Germans did.

 

[Certified_Autist]

Or maybe the fact the United States is so much economically better off than Mexico in every aspect of life, as well as crime, that life in the United States is a million times more appealing than continued suffering in Mexico, so getting in by any means, even if it's risking your life, is a deal too good for almost everyone.

Ok, and literally none of that contradicts or disproves what I said. You can have a trend get started for one reason, then be encouraged by a third party for another reason.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Ironic coming from you. You'd think a Kiwifarms user, of all people, would understand that a few retards don't define an entire online community

opens up /pol/

lmfao intellects my ass

 

[Certified_Autist]

Opens up Kiwifarms

Lmfao intellects my ass

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Opens up Kiwifarms
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Imagine hailing an anonymous posting board as a beacon of truth
also lol mad

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Or maybe the fact the United States is so much economically better off than Mexico in every aspect of life, as well as crime, that life in the United States is a million times more appealing than continued suffering in Mexico, so getting in by any means, even if it's risking your life, is a deal too good for almost everyone.

The majority in Mexico isn't suffering to the point they're hightailing to wade across the Rio Grande, that's a racist trope. The majority of illegal immigrants come from Central and South America, as well as the Caribbean, and the majority of those are middle class; do you know how many thousands it costs for a coyote to escort you over the border, in addition to getting there in the first place? Several thousands of dollars.

The ones that can't pay are trafficked into labor and sex slavery and by condoning it you are actually supporting the literal enslavement of human beings, but you overlook this inconvenient fact as it's easier to blame everything on right wing chuds. Good going, making slavery a Democratic institution again.

 

[Certified_Autist]

Imagine hailing an anonymous posting board as a beacon of truth
also lol mad

My opening comment in this thread was literally calling /pol/ users poltards and hyperbolic, then you jumped in screeching about /pol/ for some reason. Learn to read

 

[Suburban Bastard]

The majority in Mexico isn't suffering to the point they're hightailing to wade across the Rio Grande, that's a racist trope. The majority of illegal immigrants come from Central and South America, as well as the Caribbean, and the majority of those are middle class; do you know how many thousands it costs for a coyote to escort you over the border, in addition to getting there in the first place? Several thousands of dollars.

The ones that can't pay are trafficked into labor and sex slavery and by condoning it you are actually supporting the literal enslavement of human beings, but you overlook this inconvenient fact as it's easier to blame everything on right wing chuds. Good going, making slavery a Democratic institution again.

Mexico is the top origin country of the U.S. immigrant population. In 2018, roughly 11.2 million immigrants living in the U.S. were from there, accounting for 25% of all U.S. immigrants. The next largest origin groups were those from China (6%), India (6%), the Philippines (4%) and El Salvador (3%).

By region of birth, immigrants from Asia combined accounted for 28% of all immigrants, close to the share of immigrants from Mexico (25%). Other regions make up smaller shares: Europe, Canada and other North America (13%), the Caribbean (10%), Central America (8%), South America (7%), the Middle East and North Africa (4%) and sub-Saharan Africa (5%).

Yeeeeeaaaah about that. I do enjoy how you immediately jumped to accusing me of supporting slavery though when I speak of immigration in general....or the subject not even coming up, but then you again you had a gigantic meltdown and accused everyone of bringing up child rape by the russian military pedophiles so....

But the real funniest part is you think I'm a democrat.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

You optimistic whitepill niggas talk like "just" inflation is okay. Two thirds of the population lives paycheck to paycheck already, which is probably a lot more than back then.* All it would take is even just, say, a 50% increase in prices over a year to wreck it all.

*I say that because I've seen data on Irish immigrants in 1800s NYC where they were saving way more than modern Americans, and that was an especially bad situation. Modern people might spend a much bigger chunk of their paycheck because of their social safety net and/or more variety of things to buy.