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European Wildcats are threatened due to hybridization with feral domestic cats.
People who hunt them because they think they are stray cat are another reason.
One a more serious note this is one of the silliest take at specie protection, it one of that odd case we aren't even protecting a ''subspecies'' but the ''genetic purity.'' A ''domestic'' cat coming from a feral generation will fill the same niche and not only that but can exactly look like a wildcat(yes pet cat have a higher variety of coat color but selective pressure will probably lead to more ''wild'' coat that bend better in nature like tabby, the fact that european wildcat are not only indistinguishable to pet cat but can reproduce between them is telling something)
Is like if we say in north america they're a specie of blond/brown wild dog that look a bit like dingo but since the settler have brought domestic dog, the wild and domestic dog are interbreeding to the point the original wild one are thought to be extinct. but like many exemple of real life some domestic dog have gone feral and after many generation of natural selection they appearance become more like the native wild dog. The only way we would be sure if the specie is extinct is via genetic screening
 
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To bring this back onto the topic of Breeding and Breeders, Every British Shorthair breeder i contacted and looked up while looking for my own refused to sell to anyone who let them outside. Not like they could really check but its a good enough to filter some retards I suppose.

It costs zero dollars to keep your cat indoors and $10 to buy a harness to take it for walks outside if you really want to let him explore.
 
@Spennychu

Sorry, couldn't reply to you directly because of the post length bug, but you seriously need to check out the organization that your crazy Canadian lady is working with for the whole story.

Austin Pets Alive is known for doing all kinds of shady stuff. They are a no-kill shelter so your Canuck is lying through her teeth about them killing animals.

I can go into more details about them, but for anyone who wants to get a general idea, here is a Reddit thread r/Austin about them. Several users confirm that Austin Pets Alive does not do thorough vet checks on the animals they take in, and animals that are suffering are refused medical euthenasia due to how overbearing their 'no kill' rules are.

Their facilities are (or at least were) filthy, with sections of rotting plywood for doors in their public restrooms and leantoos of rotting wood/recycled roof material/recycled chainlink fence hastily nailed together for some of the dogs.

We told them we have relatives with children and there would certainly be children in the house. They tried to get us to adopt a pitbull with no ears (lost them dogfighting).

Austin Pets Alive runs the same scam as your Canuck where they collect the worst of the worst from other shelters and try to place them with a family no matter how dangerous or stupid the placement is. If you're looking for material to make a thread on shitty adoption orgs, you might as well add them along with the Canuck.

I'll see if I can find more bad reviews/horror stories to post. I have no doubt they're out there.
 
@Spennychu thank you for that SAF milk. I was following them for awhile because Mikayla and shiverveins/clevyr_creatures - the black girl in the kinky photos, who is a SAF employee - were minor lolcows of mine, but the animal deaths got too depressing. Mikayla had at least one fox, Nikita, that she bought from a breeder as a personal pet, and would get ridiculously defensive in the comments if anyone asked about her. Batty was an incredibly adorable gray fox kit who was being kept in the house and got out and was hit by a car. Mikayla and her supporters would shame and guilt anyone questioning how that was allowed to happen because Mikayla was too distraught to handle that on top of what she was already going through. Of course it would be normal to go through some grieving if she actually cared about the animals, but also as a "rescue" they depend on people feeling an emotional attachment to the animals they see on Instagram and being invested in their story/welfare.

There's definitely more I could go back and find for a rescue thread.

So I'm not too OT, here are some Frenchie horrors:
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The captions really are hilarious if the photos weren't soul crushing
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People who hunt them because they think they are stray cat are another reason.
One a more serious note this is one of the silliest take at specie protection, it one of that odd case we aren't even protecting a ''subspecies'' but the ''genetic purity.'' A ''domestic'' cat coming from a feral generation will fill the same niche and not only that but can exactly look like a wildcat(yes pet cat have a higher variety of coat color but selective pressure will probably lead to more ''wild'' coat that bend better in nature like tabby, the fact that european wildcat are not only indistinguishable to pet cat but can reproduce between them is telling something)
Is like if we say in north america they're a specie of blond/brown wild dog that look a bit like dingo but since the settler have brought domestic dog, the wild and domestic dog are interbreeding to the point the original wild one are thought to be extinct. but like many exemple of real life some domestic dog have gone feral and after many generation of natural selection they appearance become more like the native wild dog. The only way we would be sure if the specie is extinct is via genetic screening

Your reading comprehension skills are fucking abysmal and you don't understand basic conservation biology. this mf posts on a writing thread?
There are very valid reasons to minimize anthropogenic hybridization in wild species, it's not eugenics. You're acting like these species are completely interchangeable when in fact they're not. A small difference in physiology or even behavior can make a huge impact on that animal's role in its ecological niche and greatly affect hunting success. Lets say your hypothetical domestic dog was brought over and is much more water faring than its native cousin, suddenly a prey species that evolved over tens of thousands of years to evade this native dog by going into the water suddenly has no defense anymore and its population plummets. Or this new dog is slightly more heat or cold tolerant, or bullies other native predators out of their territory. Not to sound circle of life spergy but all this stuff very much exists in a balance and something completely minor can throw it all off. European wildcats and domestic cats have different diets and hybrid diets are somewhere in-between, cats with domestic ancestry have a broader range of prey.

Final post on the matter, I'll just share this really good paper taking down myths downplaying the environmental impact of cats, the argument they fill a natural niche, and also TNR programs (spoiler: they don't do shit, and TNRs that had the most success were ones trying to adopt out as many cats as possible. Just taking cats and releasing them once fixed had a minimal impact on colonies.) Yes, you were correct that statistically rodents are eaten more than birds, and that ferals have a bigger impact than owned-cats. What that doesn't mean is that predation of birds and the harm caused by owned-cats are at all negligible.


Back on topic of shitty animal breeding, modern basset hounds are depressing to look at. Ectropion (a rolled, exposed lower eyelid) is pretty much a breed feature now. Has anyone actually tried pulling at their lower eyelid so the inside is exposed to the air? instantly your eyes start watering and begging your body to put that shit back. Living like that your entire life sounds like hell.
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Thankfully there's a whole category of basset breeds that haven't been attacked with a heat gun, like the Blue Gascony Basset.
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Nice working line Basset Hounds by Albany and West Lodge
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(Yes I'm fully aware of the double standards of bitching about murderous cats then posting hunting dogs, but that's just the state of the breed. These are where the last pockets of good conformation are 🤷‍♂️.)
 
Back on topic of shitty animal breeding, modern basset hounds are depressing to look at. Ectropion (a rolled, exposed lower eyelid) is pretty much a breed feature now. Has anyone actually tried pulling at their lower eyelid so the inside is exposed to the air? instantly your eyes start watering and begging your body to put that shit back. Living like that your entire life sounds like hell.
I’m sorry but what the actual FUCK, my dude? Why do they breed them like this? (:_(
 
Cats especially in countries like Australia are not native, Australia isnt actually the whole EVERY ANIMAL WILL KILL YOU meme country. Most our wildlife are herbivore/Mammals and our predators are mostly snakes or Dingoes which are quite rare in a vast majority of the country but especially cities. This is why Rabbits Foxes and Cats have destroyed our ecosystem, they don't have predators.

Arguing with people who say its ok to let their cats outside is almost as amusing to me as arguing with a Pitbull defender. One guy who is in group I'm in spent so long defending letting his cat outside and a week later his cat was hit by a car, He does not like me anymore.
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Holy fuck the bottom left one hit me hard. And I grew up with a mum who let her cats roam.

Also "That's only a USA issue." LMAO. living in a USA-lite anglo nation you hear that cop-out commonly over things that are very clearly also problems here, obesity, gang violence, Trash media, boomer/millennial antics. Even when every few months another toddler or nan is killed by a dog; pitbulls since the state stupidly only banned that exact breed descriptor, and not all the doppelganger fighting breeds.
 
To bring this back onto the topic of Breeding and Breeders, Every British Shorthair breeder i contacted and looked up while looking for my own refused to sell to anyone who let them outside. Not like they could really check but its a good enough to filter some retards I suppose.

It costs zero dollars to keep your cat indoors and $10 to buy a harness to take it for walks outside if you really want to let him explore.
I have noticed this a lot more as of late actually where I live. People have started using harnesses and leashes more with their cat. Even going as far to use those backpacks with the windows or clear-plastic.

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Yes I know the third is a backpack, just wanted to share.

Your reading comprehension skills are fucking abysmal and you don't understand basic conservation biology. this mf posts on a writing thread?
There are very valid reasons to minimize anthropogenic hybridization in wild species, it's not eugenics. You're acting like these species are completely interchangeable when in fact they're not. A small difference in physiology or even behavior can make a huge impact on that animal's role in its ecological niche and greatly affect hunting success. Lets say your hypothetical domestic dog was brought over and is much more water faring than its native cousin, suddenly a prey species that evolved over tens of thousands of years to evade this native dog by going into the water suddenly has no defense anymore and its population plummets. Or this new dog is slightly more heat or cold tolerant, or bullies other native predators out of their territory. Not to sound circle of life spergy but all this stuff very much exists in a balance and something completely minor can throw it all off. European wildcats and domestic cats have different diets and hybrid diets are somewhere in-between, cats with domestic ancestry have a broader range of prey.

Final post on the matter, I'll just share this really good paper taking down myths downplaying the environmental impact of cats, the argument they fill a natural niche, and also TNR programs (spoiler: they don't do shit, and TNRs that had the most success were ones trying to adopt out as many cats as possible. Just taking cats and releasing them once fixed had a minimal impact on colonies.) Yes, you were correct that statistically rodents are eaten more than birds, and that ferals have a bigger impact than owned-cats. What that doesn't mean is that predation of birds and the harm caused by owned-cats are at all negligible.


Back on topic of shitty animal breeding, modern basset hounds are depressing to look at. Ectropion (a rolled, exposed lower eyelid) is pretty much a breed feature now. Has anyone actually tried pulling at their lower eyelid so the inside is exposed to the air? instantly your eyes start watering and begging your body to put that shit back. Living like that your entire life sounds like hell.
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Thankfully there's a whole category of basset breeds that haven't been attacked with a heat gun, like the Blue Gascony Basset.
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(Yes I'm fully aware of the double standards of bitching about murderous cats then posting hunting dogs, but that's just the state of the breed. These are where the last pockets of good conformation are 🤷‍♂️.)

Ah wow! I didn't realize people were trying to intentionally breed MORE droop into the breed.
The Blue Gascony Basset looks way better.

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There was a story out there of a bassethound that had SO MUCH skin, they had to get it surgery just so it wasn't miserable.
They did a gofundme for £1,000 to facelift their poor dog.
Article: https://archive.ph/hHSGq

Basset hound Duke can finally see thanks to £1,000 FACELIFT to remove the folds of skin that were sagging over his eyes​

  • Duke, an American basset hound, had surgery to remove excess skin
  • Owner discovered he was miserable because excess layers covered eyes
  • Now surgeons in Worcestershire have performed a £1,000 facelift
  • The three-year-old dog is now as happy as he was when he was a puppy
I posted the images below, but there is one of post-surgery recovery so fair warning of stitches and such.
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During recovery after surgery.
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Holy fuck the bottom left one hit me hard. And I grew up with a mum who let her cats roam.

Also "That's only a USA issue." LMAO. living in a USA-lite anglo nation you hear that cop-out commonly over things that are very clearly also problems here, obesity, gang violence, Trash media, boomer/millennial antics. Even when every few months another toddler or nan is killed by a dog; pitbulls since the state stupidly only banned that exact breed descriptor, and not all the doppelganger fighting breeds.
Banning a breed will never work because any poorly socialized large dog can do damage and even kill people,(y'all cynophobe peep screaming only pitbull maul were obviously never attacked by a german shepherd or a rottweiler). If you want to tackle the problem with a ounce of intelligence the obligation of having a dog license(like a car license) if properly enforced will resolve the problem way better than those silly BSL law that give a free pas to any problematic dog because they aren't pitbull
 
Banning a breed will never work because any poorly socialized large dog can do damage and even kill people,(y'all cynophobe peep screaming only pitbull maul were obviously never attacked by a german shepherd or a rottweiler). If you want to tackle the problem with a ounce of intelligence the obligation of having a dog license(like a car license) if properly enforced will resolve the problem way better than those silly BSL law that give a free pas to any problematic dog because they aren't pitbull
German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Dobermans were not bred with the intent to kill. Pitbulls were. You can train a pitbull as well as you can and it's still 50/50 as to whether it will snap and maul a toddler's face off because that's bred into them.
 
German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Dobermans were not bred with the intent to kill. Pitbulls were. You can train a pitbull as well as you can and it's still 50/50 as to whether it will snap and maul a toddler's face off because that's bred into them.
Sorry to dog sperg, but all three of those are protection dog breeds. The Doberman in particular was historically created by a tax collector to only be loyal to the owner, and attack strangers who approached (or in his case, were hostile to him). What does this mean? While the pit bull is bred to be aggressive toward other dogs and small animals that can extend to human children, those three protection breeds were specifically bred to be hostile toward people. This meant they rightfully underwent a lot more regulation and training, because all three of those breeds are capable of mauling someone as much as a pit bull.

The most dangerous quality that anybody can possesses is willful ignorance. One of the biggest issues with pit bulls is not their innate aggression; I would say that breeds like the Shar-Pei are arguably more dangerous to be around. It's the popularity of the pit bull combined with the unwillingness of the breed's fans to acknowledge how dangerous the dog can be. You will never see a doberman owner say that their dog is incapable of doing harm, or blame a toddler for getting mauled by their dog. They are fully aware of the aggression of their dogs and take steps to mitigate harm to the dog and the public via training and simply not allowing their dog to be around people. This isn't the case with pit bulls: you have people with neurotic overbred dogs insisting they're as gentle as a golden retriever.
 
Banning a breed will never work because any poorly socialized large dog can do damage and even kill people,(y'all cynophobe peep screaming only pitbull maul were obviously never attacked by a german shepherd or a rottweiler). If you want to tackle the problem with a ounce of intelligence the obligation of having a dog license(like a car license) if properly enforced will resolve the problem way better than those silly BSL law that give a free pas to any problematic dog because they aren't pitbull

Most fatal and disfiguring dog attacks are by pit bulls. Rottweilers occasionally kill. It makes no sense to regulate bloodsport breeds like pit bulls in the exact safe fashion as breeds that never kill people. How would requiring that miniature poodle owners get the same kind of license as pit bull owners help solve anything? It's not miniature poodles that are clogging shelters and killing a few dozen people each year - that's pit bulls.
 
Most fatal and disfiguring dog attacks are by pit bulls. Rottweilers occasionally kill. It makes no sense to regulate bloodsport breeds like pit bulls in the exact safe fashion as breeds that never kill people. How would requiring that miniature poodle owners get the same kind of license as pit bull owners help solve anything? It's not miniature poodles that are clogging shelters and killing a few dozen people each year - that's pit bulls.
explain the failure of bsl at reducing dog bite then https://faunalytics.org/ths-study-finds-breed-specific-legislation-has-not-reduced-dog-bites/
 
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hummm yeah, tell me more about BSL efficacy

Lol, well yeah that's true. When owners can just lie about the breed, and there's practically no real enforcement to speak of, naturally the overall effect is minimal. That doesn't change the fact that pits maul at a much higher rate than other breeds, rather than just biting, which is the main point I was trying to get at.
 
Here's the receipts on APA, the group connected to Nicole Simone. In this post I will attempt to show that far from being the victim of Nicole Simone, APA is in a mutually beneficial parasocial relationship with the organization and that the entire point of Nicole Simone's operation is to harm the more reputable shelters in the Toronto area.

The dog-laundering antics of the Pets Alive! Franchise and the No-Kill Shelter Movement

Since I have no way of knowing who is familiar with the no-kill shelter movement or not, I'm going to take a moment to go over what it is and what they do.

The no-kill shelter movement appears to have cropped up in the early aughts when some veterinarian that had previously worked on spay/neutering for a local Austin nonprofit invented the no-kill shelter model. In this model the no-kill shelter will comb through all the other local shelters and take dogs off their euthenasia lists. According to the model they are then supposed to attain some autistically specific percentage of 'live release' outcomes for these dogs. They do the same thing with cats, but the dogs are where most of their offending with concealing bite histories happens.

Since this organization is already taking animals that have been deemed ill (often terminally) and behaviorally problematic at a traditionally run shelter they are forced to engage in all kinds of cooking the books to obtain their autistic percentage. Once they have their numbers in hand they then begin casting all the local traditional shelters as murder factories. Austin Pets Alive has been in an antagonistic public media slap-fight with the Travis Lake Animal Center (prior to taking over their building) and PETA for many years now because their ultimate goal is to put these groups out of business.

The no-kill shelter movement actively engages in wide-scale dog laundering that extends even outside the state of Texas. I will be providing articles that largely cover issues at the primary Austin Pets Alive location and the San Antonio Pets Alive location (their facility was taken from them by the city due to how it was being run).

What is dog-laundering?

You know that thing the Catholic church does where they shuffle around pedophile priests so they can avoid collecting a lengthy criminal record? Dog-laundering is the same concept, except it involves pitbulls instead of priests and the children are being eaten instead of raped. Here is a statement from the dog-bite lawyer who coined the term:

Kenneth M. Phillips Dog Bite Law (Archive)

Don't Support "Dog Laundering"​


"Dog laundering" is the term I gave to the unethical and criminal practice of intentionally covering up a dog's history of viciousness for the purpose of re-homing the dog with an unsuspecting family. This is a practice that many rescue groups and shelters have been engaging in for several years in the USA. Innocent people have been severely injured by it.

Don't be part of the problem. Don't support "dog laundering" by helping these dishonest, irresponsible, vicious people. You support them by looking the other way when it happens, by giving the dog back rather than taking it to the pound and seeing that it is put down. Here's an example of something that came up today:

A man contacted me through dogbitelaw.com. He wanted help suing a shelter. He said he adopted a dog and hours later it turned on him, biting him severely, sending him to the hospital. He took the dog back to the shelter and told them what happened. They accepted the dog back and gave him paperwork transferring ownership to them. In the paperwork was the statement, "the dog has not bitten anyone." He signed it, knowing it was a lie. Then he gave the dog back to them and asked me to tell him his options regarding his bite. Here's what I told him:

I am sorry that this happened to you. It is happening all over the US now. Shelters are dishonest. Unfortunately, a 'rescue dog' is now a dog you have to be rescued from.

But you lost me when you said that you signed something that said 'the dog didn't bite anyone.' It was a lie and you put your name to it. That dog is going right out to another family at this very moment, most likely because you signed this false statement. You became part of the problem right then and there. What was done to you, you did to the next family.

You need to right this wrong. You need to go to the shelter, ask to see the thing you signed, and tear it up. Keep the pieces. Then you need to go to the animal control department (I hope this didn't happen there to begin with) and report not only the dog, but also what the shelter made you sign. If they want proof, give them the pieces.

You need to go to the newspaper and tell them what the shelter gave you and what they made you sign. Show them the pieces.
Remember the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." It is also expressed this way: "Don't do anything to anyone that you would not want them to do to you." You have to make this right before asking someone to help you with your bite.

But don't take MY word for it. Here's one of the better negative reviews from the primary APA location:
I didn't edit out his name because it's already John Doe.
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Yelp, filtered by negative (Archive)

Neville vs. a Toddler (16 stitches)
APA's own blog (Archive)

OCT 09, 2015​

Austin Pets Alive! promotes the safety of humans and of our animals.

Neville was taken into Austin Pets Alive!’s rescue program a few months ago. Neville is a young, friendly dog who has never shown any signs of aggression. On September 22, Neville was playing with other dogs in a play yard when a family entered the yard to visit the dogs. The parents were advised by a staff member not to put their small son on the ground, because the dogs were playing energetically and a toddler could easily be accidentally knocked over. However, the child was placed on the ground and allowed to grab Neville, who unfortunately bit the child.

It is a very unfortunate situation for everyone, as we would never want a child to be harmed. However, we believe this was entirely preventable had our staff’s instructions and common sense been followed.

The family pleaded to the court system to have the dog killed, and Municipal Court Judge Clervi issued an order that Neville be killed, despite the evidence we presented.

“We don’t believe this is a dangerous dog,” said Mike Kaviani, APA!’s Dog Behavior Team manager. ”He did not seek out the child to bite, he was simply reacting to the child who cornered him. We haven’t been given any options at all other than killing the dog or we would be taking them. We are saddened and outraged we were not given an opportunity to find a better outcome for Neville.”

“Dogs can’t speak to us and tell us they don’t like something we are doing,” said Kaviani “They have limited ways to communicate and it’s our job to understand that.”
APA used this opportunity to fund raise to fight a legal battle to prevent Neville from being euthanized and to instead have him transferred to a family in a different county where his bite history would not be on record. They also raised funds to fend off a legal suit from the family of the child. No money was raised for the child's medical care.

Here is another case that made it into the news of a child at an APA foster home being mauled.


APA vs. Travis Lake Animal Center
The Austin Chronicle (Archive)

The dispute between APA and shelter staff runs deeper than simple disagreement over who is doing more to save animals. One staffer, also speaking on condition of anonymity, showed me a shelter report from Nov. 14, 2010, recording that 26 dogs had been moved that day to the shelter's no-holds list, which is a list of those animals that shelter staff have decided are not adoptable but aren't suffering or aggressive. Under the terms of the moratorium, animals on the no-holds list can be euthanized when more animals arrive, if no additional cage space is available.

As it happens, the Nov. 14 list was compiled two days after APA had made the evening TV news for rescuing 20 dogs from the Bastrop County Animal Shelter; those dogs were promptly adopted the following weekend. Meanwhile, shelter records show that of the 26 TLAC dogs put on the Nov. 14 no-holds list, 18 had been euthanized by mid-January, and 10 of those euthanized dogs had been considered and declined, in writing, by APA. Many of these dogs were adult pit bulls that had shown no signs of aggression toward shelter staff.

In other words, the staffer told me, APA had declined to rescue several TLAC dogs that were difficult to adopt or foster, like adult pit bulls, shortly after making local headlines for rescuing 20 easy-to-adopt dogs in Bastrop – a city it had spent little or no time criticizing.

"The hypocrisy is just so unbearable; we're getting lambasted by them for not doing what they can't do either," the staffer told me. "It's ugly when we get accused of euthanizing animals and not being able to place them, when it appears they're not able to either. They declined on 10 animals that should have been saved under no-kill. People at the shelter are hurt because the successes we've had and the amount of work we've done – to get criticized for that effort, and us knowing that it wasn't being compared apples to apples."

Unsurprisingly, APA was eventually given TLAC's property by the city council.
Since 2011 Austin Pets Alive! has occupied the Town Lake Animal Center (TLAC) on Cesar Chavez Street in exchange for taking in thousands of at-risk animals from the city. The nonprofit aids the city in its goal to be “no-kill.” Under city of Austin standards, “no-kill” means a minimum of 95% of homeless animals who enter shelters must leave alive.

They have now moved on to screwing over the Austin Animal Center per KXAN (Archive)
The organization is appealing to City Council to approve a new agreement with terms more favorable to it, since “[city] staff will not agree to the License Agreement terms.”

Austin Animal Center has a different perspective.

“The current facility is on City owned land which ultimately was paid for with tax dollars. APA! is using that land for free, in exchange for helping AAC and pulling animals,” said an Austin Animal Center spokesperson. “They are asking to help AAC less and use the same tax-funded property to help animals from other cities and states.”

PETA has also accused APA of manipulating their numbers via their personal website (Archive)
We struggled—along with rescue groups and compassionate individuals everywhere—to fill the need caused by shelter lockouts. But where we saw need, heavyweight organizations like Best Friends and Austin Pets Alive! (APA) saw an opportunity to advance their agenda. Soon a dangerous and damaging transformation of our municipal shelters was underway.

First, we heard rumors that pandemic policies would continue indefinitely and that a new program called Human Animal Support System (HASS), started by APA and endorsed by other “no-kill” activists, would redefine our shelters, divorcing them from their duty of care to all animals in need. That isn’t true, we thought. They can’t just decide to drastically reduce services to the communities that built them and pay their bills. We now know it IS true.

What Is Managed Admission?

Simply put, managed admission is a method of creating obstacles to avoid or delay admitting animals in need of refuge. Managed admission shelters will generally only take in animals on an emergency basis if they are sick or injured or pose a threat. The public must jump through a series of hoops to get a managed admission shelter to take in an animal, filling out lengthy paperwork online or in person and housing the animal themselves for days while waiting for an appointment at a taxpayer-supported shelter. One caller to the Pet Assistance Foundation’s hotline described how she rescued a blind Chihuahua in the middle of a busy street. She had to keep the dog for five days in her parent’s backyard before she was finally able to get him into the local public shelter.

Those surrendering their own animals, even for justifiable reasons, are advised to find another home or a rescue group. If they persist, they are told to make an appointment, which may be months away. If their dog or cat is accepted, the turn-in fees can be steep (over $300 at the Orange County, California, public shelter), an insurmountable barrier for many facing eviction or another economic hardship. These animals are then at great risk of being given away randomly or simply abandoned.

All this is to achieve a specific “live release rate” of animals to appease public officials and the general public. A 90% release rate sounds impressive, until one realizes that it only pertains to the animals a shelter chooses to admit and bears no relation to the number that actually need help. The thousands of animals now being turned away from our shelters are not counted. Their deaths are not counted nor is the fact that those deaths—by starvation, dehydration, predation, etc.—often involve intense, prolonged suffering. For the “no-kill” movement, that one statistic is more important than the animals themselves or their quality of life.
For the record, I cannot personally stand PETA (who are also massive hypocrites), but a broke clock and all that.

Problems with the San Antonio Pets Alive Facility
In Which a Dog Named Wonton Mauls Several Children, as reported by San Antonio Report (Archive)
“In theory, SAPA’s a great idea,” said Kelly Walls, a local activist who works with Homeward Bound Dog Rescue. “But they came on board and they really were not prepared to deal with the number of animals that their contract required for them to pull. They didn’t really have the infrastructure. And people thought because there was some success with the program in Austin with Austin Pets Alive that it would equally translate to success here in San Antonio, and that has not always been true. SAPA infrastructure has basically been crumbling since day one.”

Walls, along with other animal rescuers who have been paying attention to Pets Alive’s struggles, have expressed concern that its focus on getting San Antonio’s no-kill level up has caused them to move animals into foster homes despite real concerns about the animals’ behavior and health.

During the City Council meeting on Wednesday, ACS promised to look into the circumstances surrounding a dog named Wonton. The dog, according to documents supplied to the Rivard Report, was fostered out by Pets Alive to a family with a 3-year-old child in September of 2015.

In an apparently unprovoked attack, the dog bit the child on the back of a hand. Though the wound was not severe, the child required stitches and the foster family returned Wonton to Pets Alive with a request that he not be euthanized, though they noted that he did not seem to do well around kids.

In December, the dog was fostered out again, this time to a family with a 7-year-old child. In another seemingly unprovoked attack, Wonton bit the child on the back of the neck. When the animal was turned into ACS, Pets Alive declined to pull him again. It’s unclear what happened to Wonton, but Urrutia said on Thursday that ACS would investigate the case.

Criticisms about the nonprofit’s ability to manage its large number of animals are not new. In 2012, shortly after Pets Alive set up shop in San Antonio, an activist and volunteer took video from inside the kitten ward at its Marbach clinic. The video shows sick kittens, eyes crusted shut, nestled alongside apparently healthy littermates. Shortly after the video was released, a researcher with PETA filed a complaint with the city, alleging a high mortality rate among the kittens under SAPA’s care.

At the time, Pets Alive responded to the videos and allegations with an acknowledgement that they were having growing pains, but noted that it is not unusual for motherless kittens to die at relatively high rates, even with excellent care. One employee said the video was taken out of context during a late-night visit. Later, an unannounced visit by ACS inspectors concluded in a report that the animals in Pets Alive’s care were healthy.

Since then, former volunteers have continued to allege that Pets Alive sometimes provides incomplete medical care for sick and injured foster animals because of lack of funds, raising questions about how it prioritizes the animals that it takes in. If Pets Alive takes in only, or even primarily, the animals that need extra money and more resources, they might have a hard time effectively treating all of those animals and reaching sustainability.

Many rescue organizations attempt to balance their budgets by taking in fewer expensive cases, and filling the rest of their spots with more easily-adoptable animals that will bring in adoption fees without massive expenditures. But this is fundamentally at odds with Pets Alive’s mission to save the animals that other adopters and organizations have passed over.

Seamus Nelson, who works at the San Antonio Humane Society and is District 1’s representative on the ACS board, agrees with some animal rights advocates who think that Pets Alive needs to be more strategic in how they allocate their resources.

“I’m not suggesting that these pets needing medical attention don’t deserve a chance,” Nelson said. “They definitely need a chance. But when you’re talking about the sustainability of an organization, if that’s what’s dragging you down and that’s what you’re hemorrhaging resources into, how many pets are you not saving because of the number of resources you’ve put into this one? I think that’s an important thing to weigh out.”

As Pets Alive struggles to right its financial situation, questions will likely continue about what it can do to fulfill its mission in a city still striving to be no-kill. What is certain, City Council agreed on Thursday, is that a broader conversation about the sustainability of San Antonio’s no-kill status is needed.

“The main problem of course is human behavior,” Mayor Ivy Taylor said on Wednesday. “We are needing a larger discussion on what our goals are related to animals. … Public safety is our top priority.

The facility was later assigned to a different rescue organization after persistent problems.

There's way more in the way of bad reviews, but I should mention that these people have a literal army of insane volunteers who work non-stop to carry water for them, so anyone trying to speak up about them is generally dogpiled. I'm going to try to compile some bad reviews to go with the articles.
 

And you think merely requiring a license will do anything? I didn't even say anything about BSL, just about the fact that pit bulls are responsible for most fatal dog attacks.

That study was on dog bites. Dog bites vary from punctures to severe lacerations that require stitches. There were no details on the study in the link. Was bite severity considered?

Here's a peer-reviewed medical study showing that pit bull bites tend to be particularly severe (and are most likely to require surgical intervention): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4261032/

Pit bulls are also, year after year, are the breed responsible for the highest number of fatalities. They kill more people than all other dog breeds combined. Now I don't think they should all be rounded up and killed or anything, but a good argument could be made for at least requiring that they be spayed or neutered. The people who tend to breed pit bulls have shown for long enough that they are not a responsible group. Sure, there are irresponsible breeders of all sorts of dogs, but pit bull breeders are almost always greasy assholes or criminals looking to make money, or they are dogfighers. Pit bulls are also clogging most shelters in the US and a high proportion of pit bulls born are likely euthanized at shelters. Enough is enough.
 
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